M

modman

Audioholic
You folks seem to wet yourselves over Oppo players. I'm confused...I purchased a BDP-83, and 4 years after the purchase, it went dead. I took it to an authorized dealer, and they said "well, these things happen." $150 for a new power supply. One month later, the tray would not open or close using the on-unit button...I had to use the remote to do so. Now, a few months later, it won't read random DVD disks.

Hmm....in my bedroom, I have a $80 "piece of crap" blu-ray player that has never failed me in 5 years.

So, as I search for a new, high-quality player for my main room....what is the real "piece of crap?" How can you convince me that I should get a new Oppo player when it has disappointed on so many levels? Does anybody at the superstar Oppo organization want to weigh in on this? Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

Not happy.
 
fuzz092888

fuzz092888

Audioholic Warlord
We're not here to convince you of anything. If you're not happy with Oppo get something else, plain and simple. If you're that unhappy with the product, why rant about it at all? Sell it or scrap it and then replace it with something that will fit your needs.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
You folks seem to wet yourselves over Oppo players. I'm confused...I purchased a BDP-83, and 4 years after the purchase, it went dead. I took it to an authorized dealer, and they said "well, these things happen." $150 for a new power supply. One month later, the tray would not open or close using the on-unit button...I had to use the remote to do so. Now, a few months later, it won't read random DVD disks.

Hmm....in my bedroom, I have a $80 "piece of crap" blu-ray player that has never failed me in 5 years.

So, as I search for a new, high-quality player for my main room....what is the real "piece of crap?" How can you convince me that I should get a new Oppo player when it has disappointed on so many levels? Does anybody at the superstar Oppo organization want to weigh in on this? Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

Not happy.
I can understand your frustration. I've never owned an Oppo product so I can not attest to their quality.

Some years ago I purchased a DVD player from Panasonic because at that time Panasonic was at the top of consumer reports most reliable list, and it didn't work. Nothing is 100% fool proof, even high end equipment isn't without shortcomings.

Now something to consider. The power supply in your BDP-83 went bad and in order to be serviced the player had to be disassembled. When the player was re-assembled it's entirely possible that the parts where not all fitted back together correctly. It's possible the outer button shell isn't connecting with the button on the circuit board.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
We're not here to convince you of anything. If you're not happy with Oppo get something else, plain and simple. If you're that unhappy with the product, why rant about it at all? Sell it or scrap it and then replace it with something that will fit your needs.
The old adage applies. If you buy something and it works good you might tell one or two people. If it works great you might tell a few more. If it doesn't work, you're going to tell everybody.
 
tyhjaarpa

tyhjaarpa

Audioholic Field Marshall
Never owned anything from Oppo, but they are supposed to be good products. Even high end products can fail like stated already, poop happens. Doesn't mean entire company / products are poop. You might be just unlucky to get faulty unit. If you want to look for something else I can recommend Marantz players, have had mine for couple months now and I have been happy with it.
 
R

rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
Never had a problem with the Oppo problems I've owned, but every brand has lemons along the way.
 
P

PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
First of all I don't not consider Oppo BDP-83 high end but of course some do. I understand your frustration, and am sure you are not the only one who has trouble or just tough luck with their products. I am also sure they have many happy customers who have trouble free units for longer than 4 years. There are just too many reasons for a BDP to fail. Unlike automobiles, I have not seen any stats that rank reliability of BDPs, but while browsing forums I have not found too many complaints about them either. If you like the 83 when it was working, you may give them a second chance and replace it with the 103 or just go with something else but I don't think people should consider Oppo as crap just because some units have failed within a few years.
 
Ponzio

Ponzio

Audioholic Samurai
BDP-105 owner here for 2 years with no problems to date and crap is the last adjective I would use to describe it ... knock on wood; hope I haven't jinxed myself :) ... and I run the unit on average 4 to 8 hours a day, accessing all the features/functions (Netflix, USB for both movies & music & the CD, DVD player, DNLA streaming) daily. I've previously or currently own Panasonic, Sony & Samsung units and they don't even come close to the Oppo for quality. If I have any complaints it's the price but if I get another 8 years out of it, I'd feel like I got my money's worth ... otherwise I'd be pissing & moaning too. ;)
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
You folks seem to wet yourselves over Oppo players. I'm confused...I purchased a BDP-83, and 4 years after the purchase, it went dead. I took it to an authorized dealer, and they said "well, these things happen." $150 for a new power supply. One month later, the tray would not open or close using the on-unit button...I had to use the remote to do so. Now, a few months later, it won't read random DVD disks.

Hmm....in my bedroom, I have a $80 "piece of crap" blu-ray player that has never failed me in 5 years.

So, as I search for a new, high-quality player for my main room....what is the real "piece of crap?" How can you convince me that I should get a new Oppo player when it has disappointed on so many levels? Does anybody at the superstar Oppo organization want to weigh in on this? Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

Not happy.
Have you called Oppo directly to vent your frustration and see if they can keep you as a happy customer?

They are known to have top-notch customer service, so give them a call and see what they suggest. Make it clear that you want their product, and you want to like their product, but they have let you down and you want to give them a chance to make it right before they lose you as a customer for life.

It certainly can't hurt your situation any!
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
You get one lemon and the sky is falling now? Good job. Sorry that you're having problems but doing something constructive about it is probably a better choice.

I've owned 4 or 5 Oppos and have been happy with all of them. I sold my 83SE to a person here and it is still going strong. It did have a minor problem with the tray at one point and I took it to them and they fixed it for free outside of the warranty. Their customer service is excellent, so I'll second giving them a call directly.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
My "Crappy" and "unreliable" Onkyo - same old gen onkyo which heats up like water heater is going strong since 2007. Is it has to do that I had always let it breathe freely and not shove into some enclosed cab? Who knows? :rolleyes:;)
 
J

JMJVK

Audioholic
You folks seem to wet yourselves over Oppo players. I'm confused...I purchased a BDP-83, and 4 years after the purchase, it went dead. I took it to an authorized dealer, and they said "well, these things happen." $150 for a new power supply. One month later, the tray would not open or close using the on-unit button...I had to use the remote to do so. Now, a few months later, it won't read random DVD disks.

Hmm....in my bedroom, I have a $80 "piece of crap" blu-ray player that has never failed me in 5 years.

So, as I search for a new, high-quality player for my main room....what is the real "piece of crap?" How can you convince me that I should get a new Oppo player when it has disappointed on so many levels? Does anybody at the superstar Oppo organization want to weigh in on this? Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

Not happy.
1 - Inference to "female arousal" over people's enthusiasm for Oppo devices is indecent, callous and derogatory. Condescension won't get you anywhere.

2 - A power supply's failure is usually do to overloads, which suggest a, or multpile surges, which, in turn means it's highly likely it wasn't sufficiently protected. If it was, you just got unlucky.

3 - Your tray problem probably keeps the optical assembly misaligned. You should return to that authorized center, and discuss it with them, and failing a repair, discuss it with Oppo, instead of bashing them.





Your thread seems to have been launched in an unfortunate fit of rage. Mods have been nice to you. I would have you banned for indecency.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Why not deal with Oppo customer service directly? I wasn't even aware they had an authorized dealer network???

Oh and I've owned DVD and Blu-ray players from: Panasonic, Oppo, Denon, and Marantz, etc. To date I've never had a Denon last me more than 2-3 years without some reliability issue including their flagship DVD-5910. I had similar issues with Marantz. I had a couple of minor issues with Oppo most of which was fixed with firmware updates. Nobody is perfect, but Oppo has GREAT customer service!
 
walter duque

walter duque

Audioholic Samurai
All you had to do is call Oppo directly. Their customer service is top notch. They took care of mine although I told them that I was not the original owner. That is one company that stands behind their product. I called them one night (after a few beers) after I replaced the battery in the remote that it did not work and I had one 2 days later which is still in the unopened envelope. It wasn't the remote, I put the batteries in the wrong way. 20+ years ago I purchased a Camelot Round Table DVD player for 4k now that was a piece of crap.
 
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Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Since you're going to break down his post as such I feel it's obligatory I do the same to yours.

1 - Inference to "female arousal" over people's enthusiasm for Oppo devices is indecent, callous and derogatory.
Really? You sure you're not overreacting to his overreaction?



Condescension won't get you anywhere.
Who knows, maybe it does. It sure seems to get a reaction.


2 - A power supply's failure is usually do to overloads, which suggest a, or multpile surges, which, in turn means it's highly likely it wasn't sufficiently protected. If it was, you just got unlucky.
Or a part just wore out, electronics are machines. They are not in perfect stasis, they get used and parts break.

3 - Your tray problem probably keeps the optical assembly misaligned. You should return to that authorized center, and discuss it with them, and failing a repair, discuss it with Oppo, instead of bashing them.
His tray problem is a button not functioning on the unit, not the tray itself. As he said, the remote controls the eject function with no problem, it's just the on-unit button that doesn't work. You should read the post carefully before you respond instead of bashing him.





Your thread seems to have been launched in an unfortunate fit of rage.
Only Human.

Mods have been nice to you. I would have you banned for indecency.
Give me a break. Guess we're lucky you're not a mod then.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Being an expert on female arousal and indecency ... :D

Look, I'm down with telling the OP that Oppo is crap and recommending LG for all his electronics purchases in the future while I enjoy as many Oppo products as I can get my hands on.

Let's forget Oppo for a minute. I had a Panny Blu-ray player. It died. I bought another Panny Blu-ray player. I did not insult Panny owners or the Panny organization while asking for advice. The OP needs a wake up call on catching ants, not equipment advice.

If we're gonna ban people for inappropriate content I think we should turn our attention to Doug. That f%&er don't know how to act. :D
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Being an expert on female arousal and indecency ... :D
I found that "Hey Biatch!! Get me a beer" really gets em aroused. :confused:

Look, I'm down with telling the OP that Oppo is crap and recommending LG for all his electronics purchases in the future while I enjoy as many Oppo products as I can get my hands on.
That's just mean.. but funny :p

I had a Panny Blu-ray player. It died. I bought another Panny Blu-ray player. I did not insult Panny owners or the Panny organization while asking for advice.
WTF??? Why not? :D
 
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walter duque

walter duque

Audioholic Samurai
Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

You folks seem to wet yourselves over Oppo players. I'm confused...I purchased a BDP-83, and 4 years after the purchase, it went dead. I took it to an authorized dealer, and they said "well, these things happen." $150 for a new power supply. One month later, the tray would not open or close using the on-unit button...I had to use the remote to do so. Now, a few months later, it won't read random DVD disks.

Hmm....in my bedroom, I have a $80 "piece of crap" blu-ray player that has never failed me in 5 years.

So, as I search for a new, high-quality player for my main room....what is the real "piece of crap?" How can you convince me that I should get a new Oppo player when it has disappointed on so many levels? Does anybody at the superstar Oppo organization want to weigh in on this? Should I treat a "high-end" player like the Oppo as only having a viable life of 2-3 years and consider that the price of getting audio- video-phile performance is limited life?

Not happy.
If you would have called Oppo it would have only cost you shipping one way. They would have went trough the whole player, updated firm ware and so on. My unit came back like new. My unit was around 5 years old and they still took care it. They stand behind their product. Now if you want to get a high-end player I would recommend Lexicon.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Now if you want to get a high-end player I would recommend Lexicon.
Oh snap, I didn't even read your whole post until I saw "Lexicon" in bold letters, which prompted me to go back to the beginning and read the rest, then I lol'd.
 
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