C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #1 I am trying to decide on speaker types for the surrounds in my living room. Enclosed is a floorplan and design idea. I am unable to move or change the furniture for this setup. Right now I have bipole surrounds along the back wall about 3 feet above ear level. I am wondering if I should change them to monopole bookshelf speakers aimed at the listening position instead. Or I could go with directional in ceiling speakers (like the Revel C763L) on each side directed down towards the sweet spot. I sometimes feel that the dipoles since they are not on a wall behind me are not really doing as effective of a job of creating the surround field. Maybe having more point source would sound more interesting. I am unable to setup any side surrounds at ear level. My idea was to install directional surrounds ( revel C763L) slightly ahead of the listening position on each side directed at the sweet spot. Then later I would add a pair of in ceiling directly over the seated position and maybe another pair along the front walls for a Dolby Atmos experience. Let me know what you would do given this arrangement! Last edited: Jul 23, 2020
I am trying to decide on speaker types for the surrounds in my living room. Enclosed is a floorplan and design idea. I am unable to move or change the furniture for this setup. Right now I have bipole surrounds along the back wall about 3 feet above ear level. I am wondering if I should change them to monopole bookshelf speakers aimed at the listening position instead. Or I could go with directional in ceiling speakers (like the Revel C763L) on each side directed down towards the sweet spot. I sometimes feel that the dipoles since they are not on a wall behind me are not really doing as effective of a job of creating the surround field. Maybe having more point source would sound more interesting. I am unable to setup any side surrounds at ear level. My idea was to install directional surrounds ( revel C763L) slightly ahead of the listening position on each side directed at the sweet spot. Then later I would add a pair of in ceiling directly over the seated position and maybe another pair along the front walls for a Dolby Atmos experience. Let me know what you would do given this arrangement!
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #2 What Mains are you using?
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #3 The mains are Dynaudio Evoke 50s with the matching center.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #4 ckett said: The mains are Dynaudio Evoke 50s with the matching center. Click to expand... Really Nice!!! Why not go with Dynaudio In-ceiling speaker - All Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers In this category, you will find all in-ceiling speakers. Learn about the full range of high-end Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers and find a dealer near you. www.dynaudio.com
ckett said: The mains are Dynaudio Evoke 50s with the matching center. Click to expand... Really Nice!!! Why not go with Dynaudio In-ceiling speaker - All Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers In this category, you will find all in-ceiling speakers. Learn about the full range of high-end Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers and find a dealer near you. www.dynaudio.com
NINaudio Audioholic Samurai Jun 26, 2017 2,898 0 63 48 West Chicago, Illinois Jul 22, 2020 #5 OK, there's a lot to process here, but if you're looking to go atmos in the future, here's what I suggest: -monopole bookshelves for the surrounds, that will give you a solid 5.1 layer. You don't want to have in ceiling speakers as part of your bed layer if you're doing in ceiling atmos speakers. -Nix the pair you have labeled as in ceiling front presence speakers -move the pair labeled as "in-ceiling surrounds" closer together (in line with your mains and the rear atmos pair) and use them as part of your atmos layer.
OK, there's a lot to process here, but if you're looking to go atmos in the future, here's what I suggest: -monopole bookshelves for the surrounds, that will give you a solid 5.1 layer. You don't want to have in ceiling speakers as part of your bed layer if you're doing in ceiling atmos speakers. -Nix the pair you have labeled as in ceiling front presence speakers -move the pair labeled as "in-ceiling surrounds" closer together (in line with your mains and the rear atmos pair) and use them as part of your atmos layer.
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #6 mazersteven said: Really Nice!!! Why not go with Dynaudio In-ceiling speaker - All Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers In this category, you will find all in-ceiling speakers. Learn about the full range of high-end Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers and find a dealer near you. www.dynaudio.com Click to expand... Yes, certainly would consider that. As NINaudio suggested maybe just go with a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 10 bookshelves for the surrounds. Then Dynaudio In-Ceiling for the rest. Other people on other forums have also encouraged doing a 5.1.4 setup instead of a 7.1.2 with the side surrounds being in-ceilling as depicted in my floor plan. I just thought maybe it would be nice to have a more active full range speaker projecting sound out form the front sides even though they would be in ceiling. Last edited: Jul 22, 2020
mazersteven said: Really Nice!!! Why not go with Dynaudio In-ceiling speaker - All Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers In this category, you will find all in-ceiling speakers. Learn about the full range of high-end Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers and find a dealer near you. www.dynaudio.com Click to expand... Yes, certainly would consider that. As NINaudio suggested maybe just go with a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 10 bookshelves for the surrounds. Then Dynaudio In-Ceiling for the rest. Other people on other forums have also encouraged doing a 5.1.4 setup instead of a 7.1.2 with the side surrounds being in-ceilling as depicted in my floor plan. I just thought maybe it would be nice to have a more active full range speaker projecting sound out form the front sides even though they would be in ceiling.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #7 ckett said: Dynaudio Evoke 10 bookshelves Click to expand... Evoke 10's would be great. If your sitting on the couch the wall to the Left. Is that a full wall?
ckett said: Dynaudio Evoke 10 bookshelves Click to expand... Evoke 10's would be great. If your sitting on the couch the wall to the Left. Is that a full wall?
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #8 mazersteven said: Evoke 10's would be great. If your sitting on the couch the wall to the Left. Is that a full wall? Click to expand... No it isn't. It is a decorative see through wall. Here is a picture.
mazersteven said: Evoke 10's would be great. If your sitting on the couch the wall to the Left. Is that a full wall? Click to expand... No it isn't. It is a decorative see through wall. Here is a picture.
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #9 I was thinking maybe use these mounts for the bookshelf surrounds and angle them almost 90 degrees to the listeining position. This way I don't have to worry about stands taking up space on the floor.
I was thinking maybe use these mounts for the bookshelf surrounds and angle them almost 90 degrees to the listeining position. This way I don't have to worry about stands taking up space on the floor.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #10 Something like those mounts was what I was thinking. I would mount them lower than your existing Rears. That was you could bring them closer to ear level
Something like those mounts was what I was thinking. I would mount them lower than your existing Rears. That was you could bring them closer to ear level
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #11 mazersteven said: Something like those mounts was what I was thinking. I would mount them lower than your existing Rears. That was you could bring them closer to ear level Click to expand... Right! That is what i was thinking too. Maybe have them about a foot above ear level angled almost 90 degrees and slightly down. Reactions: mazersteven
mazersteven said: Something like those mounts was what I was thinking. I would mount them lower than your existing Rears. That was you could bring them closer to ear level Click to expand... Right! That is what i was thinking too. Maybe have them about a foot above ear level angled almost 90 degrees and slightly down.
NINaudio Audioholic Samurai Jun 26, 2017 2,898 0 63 48 West Chicago, Illinois Jul 22, 2020 #12 ckett said: Right! That is what i was thinking too. Maybe have them about a foot above ear level angled almost 90 degrees and slightly down. Click to expand... Yes, it would be much better if you had them pointed at the listening position
ckett said: Right! That is what i was thinking too. Maybe have them about a foot above ear level angled almost 90 degrees and slightly down. Click to expand... Yes, it would be much better if you had them pointed at the listening position
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #13 The bipoles are kind of nice but I think don't work well given my wall and couch position. I know they are meant to create a diffused sound field if they were either behind or to the sides. Since I do not have any side walls for the sound to really bounce off of, monopoles might create a more satisfying sound field. Last edited: Jul 23, 2020
The bipoles are kind of nice but I think don't work well given my wall and couch position. I know they are meant to create a diffused sound field if they were either behind or to the sides. Since I do not have any side walls for the sound to really bounce off of, monopoles might create a more satisfying sound field.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #14 And you have such nice Mains. Maybe an Area Rug. I see alot of Hard Surfaces
NINaudio Audioholic Samurai Jun 26, 2017 2,898 0 63 48 West Chicago, Illinois Jul 22, 2020 #15 ckett said: The dipoles are kind of nice but I think don't work well given my wall and couch position. I know they are meant to create a diffused sound field if they were either behind or to the sides. Since I do not have any side walls for the sound to really bounce off of, monopoles might create a more satisfying sound field. Click to expand... Most of todays movies have discrete surround channel mixes. Dipoles were much more popular when the surround channels were matrixed (mono). Reactions: ckett
ckett said: The dipoles are kind of nice but I think don't work well given my wall and couch position. I know they are meant to create a diffused sound field if they were either behind or to the sides. Since I do not have any side walls for the sound to really bounce off of, monopoles might create a more satisfying sound field. Click to expand... Most of todays movies have discrete surround channel mixes. Dipoles were much more popular when the surround channels were matrixed (mono).
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #16 mazersteven said: And you have such nice Mains. Maybe an Area Rug. I see alot of Hard Surfaces Click to expand... It actually sounds quite good even though we have hard wood floors. The couch and the wide space really seems to help with early reflection issues. Reactions: mazersteven
mazersteven said: And you have such nice Mains. Maybe an Area Rug. I see alot of Hard Surfaces Click to expand... It actually sounds quite good even though we have hard wood floors. The couch and the wide space really seems to help with early reflection issues.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #17 mazersteven said: And you have such nice Mains. Maybe an Area Rug. I see alot of Hard Surfaces. No Kids? Light Couch LOL. And what Subs? I see the Cats. Most Cats Bolt when Good Subs are used. LOL Click to expand...
mazersteven said: And you have such nice Mains. Maybe an Area Rug. I see alot of Hard Surfaces. No Kids? Light Couch LOL. And what Subs? I see the Cats. Most Cats Bolt when Good Subs are used. LOL Click to expand...
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #18 Haha, the cats have adapted. I currently have a pair of Rythmik Audio subs on each side of the couch against the back wall. They weren't in my picture above. Reactions: NINaudio and mazersteven
Haha, the cats have adapted. I currently have a pair of Rythmik Audio subs on each side of the couch against the back wall. They weren't in my picture above.
mazersteven Audioholic Warlord Mar 23, 2005 9,051 0 113 Florida Jul 22, 2020 #19 When you get those Surrounds installed let us know. NINaudio and myself will be over. He'll bring the Belgium Ale and I'll bring the Whisky. Reactions: ckett
When you get those Surrounds installed let us know. NINaudio and myself will be over. He'll bring the Belgium Ale and I'll bring the Whisky.
C ckett Enthusiast Jul 22, 2020 11 0 1 53 Jul 22, 2020 #20 Here is a more current picture of the space.
