ParadigmDawg Audioholic Overlord Nov 20, 2006 10,567 0 113 Hiding from Alex Mar 22, 2009 #1 Ok, today is the day I drill the cabinets for the harware. What is my best approach? I have the 'Laurey 98201 Perfect Mount Precision Allignment Template for Cabinet Hardware', a drill and a buch of bits. Should I tape the wood where I will drill? Is one bit better than the other? Do I need to press hard as I am drilling? Should I start with a smaller bit and the sneak up on the final size? This seemed like a good idea when I did the harware on my bathroom last week but it was splintering the wood when the bit would break through. I then tried just using the bit I needed and it didn't splinter using the bigger bit. The cabinets are oak if that matters. I can't have any splinter issues on the redone cabinets.
Ok, today is the day I drill the cabinets for the harware. What is my best approach? I have the 'Laurey 98201 Perfect Mount Precision Allignment Template for Cabinet Hardware', a drill and a buch of bits. Should I tape the wood where I will drill? Is one bit better than the other? Do I need to press hard as I am drilling? Should I start with a smaller bit and the sneak up on the final size? This seemed like a good idea when I did the harware on my bathroom last week but it was splintering the wood when the bit would break through. I then tried just using the bit I needed and it didn't splinter using the bigger bit. The cabinets are oak if that matters. I can't have any splinter issues on the redone cabinets.
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Mar 22, 2009 #2 Tape is a good idea. Use that blue tape made by 3M. It is light tack and won't peel off your new finish. Pre drill with an 1/8" bit to mark the spot on the back of the door and then drill with the right size bit but only 1/2 way from each side. Making a template is a good idea. If you are using a paper one or just measuring, an automatic center punch is helpful. Bosch is a good brand of drill bit available at HD. Why don't you hire a carpenter so that you can have somebody fresh to reem out on this new day? j/k ... kind of ... It's the other kind of 'drilling' where pushing hard gets favorable results. Don't approach this like you're taking the field. I know it's early but it is Sunday so a couple of 'relaxation' drinks might be in order to set a nice calm tone for this labor of love. Reactions: ParadigmDawg
Tape is a good idea. Use that blue tape made by 3M. It is light tack and won't peel off your new finish. Pre drill with an 1/8" bit to mark the spot on the back of the door and then drill with the right size bit but only 1/2 way from each side. Making a template is a good idea. If you are using a paper one or just measuring, an automatic center punch is helpful. Bosch is a good brand of drill bit available at HD. Why don't you hire a carpenter so that you can have somebody fresh to reem out on this new day? j/k ... kind of ... It's the other kind of 'drilling' where pushing hard gets favorable results. Don't approach this like you're taking the field. I know it's early but it is Sunday so a couple of 'relaxation' drinks might be in order to set a nice calm tone for this labor of love.
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 22, 2009 #3 Alex2507 said: Why don't you hire a carpenter... Click to expand... Honestly, that came to mind for me, too. How forgiving of drilling mistakes is the hardware? Probably fairly forgiving on the side that faces out, if the handles are like what I'm thinking. Does the interior use a washer or anything, or will it be obvious if you mess up? You can do it, man. Just take your time getting set up. Once you get your feet wet, it'll go faster. Reactions: ParadigmDawg
Alex2507 said: Why don't you hire a carpenter... Click to expand... Honestly, that came to mind for me, too. How forgiving of drilling mistakes is the hardware? Probably fairly forgiving on the side that faces out, if the handles are like what I'm thinking. Does the interior use a washer or anything, or will it be obvious if you mess up? You can do it, man. Just take your time getting set up. Once you get your feet wet, it'll go faster.
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Mar 22, 2009 #4 Adam said: Once you get your feet wet, it'll go faster. Click to expand... ... read... Once you f^%& up the first 3 doors, you won't care so much. No, you'll be fine. People have been putting holes in wood forever. Like after the wheel was invented the first thing to happen must have been a hole, right? Reactions: Adam and ParadigmDawg
Adam said: Once you get your feet wet, it'll go faster. Click to expand... ... read... Once you f^%& up the first 3 doors, you won't care so much. No, you'll be fine. People have been putting holes in wood forever. Like after the wheel was invented the first thing to happen must have been a hole, right?
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 22, 2009 #5 I'd mark, or circle the template hole that you're using. So you don't use the wrong hole on every other door. I'm wondering if the finish is totally dry, and safe to put tape on? Just a thought. Reactions: ParadigmDawg
I'd mark, or circle the template hole that you're using. So you don't use the wrong hole on every other door. I'm wondering if the finish is totally dry, and safe to put tape on? Just a thought.
ParadigmDawg Audioholic Overlord Nov 20, 2006 10,567 0 113 Hiding from Alex Mar 22, 2009 #6 First two handles are on and look good. No issue with splinters or finish pulling off.
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Mar 22, 2009 #7 ParadigmDawg said: First two handles are on and look good. No issue with splinters or finish pulling off. Click to expand... I think the one on the left is a little crooked. You should yell at yourself. Reactions: ParadigmDawg
ParadigmDawg said: First two handles are on and look good. No issue with splinters or finish pulling off. Click to expand... I think the one on the left is a little crooked. You should yell at yourself.
ParadigmDawg Audioholic Overlord Nov 20, 2006 10,567 0 113 Hiding from Alex Mar 22, 2009 #8 I am starting to get some mild splinttering; could my bit be getting dull?
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 22, 2009 #9 Alex2507 said: People have been putting holes in wood forever. Click to expand... That's like a dyslexic version of something that I'd expect Alex to say. [Sorry, Greg - I don't know why you're getting splinters, so I'm no use on that one.] Reactions: Alex2507
Alex2507 said: People have been putting holes in wood forever. Click to expand... That's like a dyslexic version of something that I'd expect Alex to say. [Sorry, Greg - I don't know why you're getting splinters, so I'm no use on that one.]
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Mar 22, 2009 #10 ParadigmDawg said: I am starting to get some mild splinttering; could my bit be getting dull? Click to expand... That's pretty unlikely. Press thes tape on harder. Try two layers of tape. Increase RPM and decrease pressure. Wood is different from piece to piece. Try a new bit too. They're $2 and it's worth a shot. Touching up those doors should be easy. I know it's not a help to you but this should have been done before the refinishing. You'll know for the next time you do this. Gotta go. Adam: outstanding. Reactions: Adam
ParadigmDawg said: I am starting to get some mild splinttering; could my bit be getting dull? Click to expand... That's pretty unlikely. Press thes tape on harder. Try two layers of tape. Increase RPM and decrease pressure. Wood is different from piece to piece. Try a new bit too. They're $2 and it's worth a shot. Touching up those doors should be easy. I know it's not a help to you but this should have been done before the refinishing. You'll know for the next time you do this. Gotta go. Adam: outstanding.
ParadigmDawg Audioholic Overlord Nov 20, 2006 10,567 0 113 Hiding from Alex Mar 22, 2009 #11 Got them all done with just one mistake. I actually put a knob on the wrong side but it is a cabinet we never really get in and it looks like it is where it belongs. I was supposed to have time to do it before they started the cabinets but then all the sudden, they told me they had to get started on the cabinets a day early. All worked out in the end. I will update pictures when I get a chance. You guys rock as always. Thanks!
Got them all done with just one mistake. I actually put a knob on the wrong side but it is a cabinet we never really get in and it looks like it is where it belongs. I was supposed to have time to do it before they started the cabinets but then all the sudden, they told me they had to get started on the cabinets a day early. All worked out in the end. I will update pictures when I get a chance. You guys rock as always. Thanks!
ParadigmDawg Audioholic Overlord Nov 20, 2006 10,567 0 113 Hiding from Alex Mar 22, 2009 #12 I have a fear that someone on here will look at all of Alex's "Thank yous" and ask him for advice on HT gear. Little do they know that he knows nothing about audio and most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. hehehehehehe Reactions: Alex2507 and Adam
I have a fear that someone on here will look at all of Alex's "Thank yous" and ask him for advice on HT gear. Little do they know that he knows nothing about audio and most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. hehehehehehe
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 22, 2009 #13 ParadigmDawg said: Little do they know that...most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. Click to expand... That, and monkey porn. Reactions: Alex2507
ParadigmDawg said: Little do they know that...most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. Click to expand... That, and monkey porn.
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 22, 2009 #14 BTW, congrats on finishing the job, Greg. I bet that you could fill the misplaced hole without too much trouble. It probably wouldn't cost much at all (heck, with your skills, they'd pay you) to get the finish put on the patch if it was required.
BTW, congrats on finishing the job, Greg. I bet that you could fill the misplaced hole without too much trouble. It probably wouldn't cost much at all (heck, with your skills, they'd pay you) to get the finish put on the patch if it was required.
sawzalot Audioholic Samurai Dec 1, 2006 2,835 0 113 Philly Southburbs Mar 22, 2009 #15 Since u have ample expert advice I'm just waitin to see finished product ...Great job by the way I am always happy to see such fine updates to the kitchen its where the day starts so why not start with a bang.. Reactions: ParadigmDawg
Since u have ample expert advice I'm just waitin to see finished product ...Great job by the way I am always happy to see such fine updates to the kitchen its where the day starts so why not start with a bang..
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Mar 22, 2009 #16 ParadigmDawg said: I have a fear that someone on here will look at all of Alex's "Thank yous" and ask him for advice on HT gear. Little do they know that he knows nothing about audio and most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. hehehehehehe Click to expand... I have actually been PM'ed a couple of times about stuff. Not to worry though. I always come clean. There's enough misinformation out there without me adding to it.
ParadigmDawg said: I have a fear that someone on here will look at all of Alex's "Thank yous" and ask him for advice on HT gear. Little do they know that he knows nothing about audio and most of the "thanks" came from me trying to complete various projects. hehehehehehe Click to expand... I have actually been PM'ed a couple of times about stuff. Not to worry though. I always come clean. There's enough misinformation out there without me adding to it.
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 22, 2009 #17 Alex2507 said: I have actually been PM'ed a couple of times about stuff. Click to expand... "Can monkeys really DO that?!?" "Hey, video doesn't lie."
Alex2507 said: I have actually been PM'ed a couple of times about stuff. Click to expand... "Can monkeys really DO that?!?" "Hey, video doesn't lie."
