Yamaha RXV-2600 Lacks real Sub Power!!!!

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asus999

Audioholic Intern
Thanks for ALL your suggestions, I will try and Reset and start from the begining again and see if I get better results.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
bongobob said:
Exactly what does "Dynamic Range" do? I leave it set to "Normal" on my 2500 figuring I'm getting the flattest response. Is this incorrect?
Dynamic Range is the range between the softest and loudest parts. The dynamic range control (aka 'midnight' or 'late night' mode) on receivers allows you to reduce the dynamic range but only works on Dolby Digital. It reduces the peaks, which brings up the average level. It makes the dialog easier to hear at low volumes and reduces the loud explosions which might disturb others.

The settings are different from receiver to receiver, but I would assume 'normal' means maximum dynamic range; ie zero compression. I thought Yamaha used the terminology 'max' (no compression), 'min' (a little bit of compression), and 'std' (a little more compression than 'min').
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
MDS said:
The settings are different from receiver to receiver, but I would assume 'normal' means maximum dynamic range; ie zero compression. I thought Yamaha used the terminology 'max' (no compression), 'min' (a little bit of compression), and 'std' (a little more compression than 'min').
The MAXIMUM setting is 0 compression on the yammie, the other two choices are standard and minimum
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
asus999 said:
Thanks for ALL your suggestions, I will try and Reset and start from the begining again and see if I get better results.
I think that's the best decision. Reset the processor, and see if the factory settings are any different. Tweak from there.

These units are one big balancing act. Raise one trim, and watch another drop.
 
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bongobob

Audioholic
jeffsg4mac said:
The MAXIMUM setting is 0 compression on the yammie, the other two choices are standard and minimum
Thanks for the feedback! Gonna change that puppy once I get home......:D
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
jeffsg4mac said:
The MAXIMUM setting is 0 compression on the yammie, the other two choices are standard and minimum
Isn't that what I said?
 

Buckle-meister

Audioholic Field Marshall
jeffsg4mac said:
The MAXIMUM setting is 0 compression on the yammie...
Are you sure? My yamaha manual states for Dynamic Range:

"Use to select the amount of compression to be applied to your speakers and headphones..."

In this context I read the MAX setting not as applying zero compression, but applying maximum compression.

Sure would be nice to get a definitive answer on this...
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Buckle-meister said:
Are you sure? My yamaha manual states for Dynamic Range:

"Use to select the amount of compression to be applied to your speakers and headphones..."

In this context I read the MAX setting not as applying zero compression, but applying maximum compression.
See, that is why it is confusing and this question keeps coming up. Does it mean maximum dynamic range or maximum compression? Max applies to dynamic range, but std and min apply to compression.

How about Off (no compression), Low (a little compression), and High (alot of compression) like Onkyo? Simple terminology sure would reduce technical support calls.
 
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fergusonv

Audioholic
Just so that it is clear. Max will give you maximum dynamic range on the Yamaha. If you have doubts change the settings and it becomes pretty obvious.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
MDS said:
See, that is why it is confusing and this question keeps coming up. Does it mean maximum dynamic range or maximum compression? Max applies to dynamic range, but std and min apply to compression.

How about Off (no compression), Low (a little compression), and High (alot of compression) like Onkyo? Simple terminology sure would reduce technical support calls.
It does get a little confusing. On the yammies think of it like this, Max=maximum dynamic range, standard=standard dynamic range and minimum=minimum dynamic range.

Or No compression, some and then a lot.:D

I do agree though, compression off or no compression would be the best choice of words.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
Hi Ho, I think the Xover on the sub should be set to max (if there is no Xover bypass), that way the receiver has the full range of the sub at its control.
Wow... I don't know what I was thinking last night. I must have been half asleep, no, make that completely asleep when I wrote that.

Now I feel like an idiot. :eek: I guess I was thinking in terms of a high pass filter which is completely irrelavent when talking about a sub.

And I thought I was on to something there. Hahaha :)
 
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asus999

Audioholic Intern
Did perform a reset and set the Dynamic Range to MAX.. it did help and make a difference, but I still need to see what other settings I need to change to get the Sub to Rumble at -40 to -35 Volume..
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
A miracle.:confused:

-40 to -35 on the Yamaha is not the same as -40 to -35 on the Sony. This information would have saved people a good bit of trouble.
 
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Newfiestang50

Audioholic Intern
zumbo said:
A miracle.:confused:

-40 to -35 on the Yamaha is not the same as -40 to -35 on the Sony. This information would have saved people a good bit of trouble.
I agree %100, i had to get used to the difference in SPL vs volume on the 2600 as well, i find from -20 and up it starts getting loud, and really loud as you approach zero (but still crystal clear). Seems like the volume goes forever before it gets loud.
 
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asus999

Audioholic Intern
Either way.. Thanks for the help... If the norm is -20 and upwards to feel the explosions and rumble from a Movie, then, I will have to adjust... Just expected more at lower volume.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
I watch movies on my Yamaha 1400 at about -11.5;) I watch concert dvd's from around -17 to -3, depending on the dvd. Most cd's sound good around -5, jamming at 0, and when I am alone, up to +5:eek: :D :cool:
 
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bongobob

Audioholic
jeffsg4mac said:
It does get a little confusing. On the yammies think of it like this, Max=maximum dynamic range, standard=standard dynamic range and minimum=minimum dynamic range.

Or No compression, some and then a lot.:D

I do agree though, compression off or no compression would be the best choice of words.
Changed the settings and did a YPAO redo and a bit of a tweak afterwards and I've realized a notiable improvement. Thanks! - Bob
 
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Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
fergusonv said:
- Consider that what you may be used to is not as accurate as what you have now.
This is a very good point. Many folks do not understand that for music, a properly calibrated sub is not really "heard" the way other speakers are. It is unobtrusive and noticed mostly by it's absence.
 

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