Yamaha RX-V2400 audiophile review

[Shinerman]

<font color='#000000'>Ug! &nbsp;

RX-V2400,

I am not trying to be rude but, &nbsp;What part of &quot;YOU HAVE TO USE 5.1 ANALOG INPUTS TO GET DVD-A SOUND&quot; &nbsp;don't you understand? &nbsp; THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, PERIOD! &nbsp;I REPEAT, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. &nbsp;

You can run 2 analog lines through your DVD2 input but you ARE NOT GETTING DVD-A SOUND THAT WAY. &nbsp;Once hooked up properly, you have to press multi channel on your remote as well to get true DVD-A sound. &nbsp;Again, no options here. &nbsp;

You seem intent on not setting your system up correctly. &nbsp;That's fine. &nbsp;But don't start threads complaining about your DVD-A sound not being that good when your system is not hooked up properly. &nbsp;An Audiophile would strive to hook everything up correctly. &nbsp;

It's a shame, because your missing out on a great new format.

Shinerman.</font>

 

[RX-V2400]

<font color='#000000'>Shinerman: Now you are confused. Multi-Channel imputs are when you have two or more seperate sources (like video playing with tuner in background) going into the one reciever. When I say i switch imnuts I mean I switch from a CD player going into say a CD input to a DVD-A going into the 5.1 analog inputs. All I am doing is slecting the source for the amp, nothing else. Like you said I have my DVD-A player, Toshiba SD4800, hooked up digitla for DVD and analog 5.1 for DVD-A just like you said but I have not listened yet. That will be today.</font>

 

[zumbo]

<font color='#000000'>Dude, the source would be DVD, nothing else. Multi-Channel input is for AUDIO from the DVD for DVD-Audio or SACD. SEPERATE AUDIO. Look on the back of your reciever. Under the audio inputs on the left, from rear, side. It is listed as front r/l, surround r/l, sub, &amp; center!  

Heck man, it says multi ch input right under it!</font>

 

[Shinerman]

<font color='#000000'>RX-V2400,

Do you have two seperate DVD Players?  One &quot;plain&quot; DVD player and your Toshiba that plays DVD-A.  If not, I am not sure why you would need your DVD2 input.  If you have your 6 different analog lines running into your multi channel input on the back of your receiver as Zumbo described from your DVD-A, you should just need a video connection to DVD-1 and a digital (optical) connection to DVD-1.  That should run everything.  Unless you have two seperate DVD players.   Regardless, when playing a DVD-A, you HAVE to press mutil channel on your remote.  Again, if you are not running at least 6 seperate analog runs between the Multi channel input on the back of your receiver and the DVD multi channel inputs on the back of your DVD-A player plus a digital audio line and a video line(s), you are not hearing DVD-A.

Sorry for the confusion but you keep throwing in these new factors like DVD2 that lead us to believe you are not using the correct setup.

Just for our sanity, maybe you could give us a complete description of each connect you have running between your DVD-A player and receiver.   How many analog lines and where they are plugged into and how many video and digital lines and where they are plugged into.  Maybe this would clear things up for everybody.

Hear how my setup works.   I put in a CD or standard DVD.  I press dvd on the remote.  If I want to use a soundfield, I press the appropriate one.   If I play a DVD-A, I press multi channel to get DVD-A sound.  No need for DVD2.  

Bye the way,

&quot;Multi-Channel imputs are when you have two or more seperate sources (like video playing with tuner in background) going into the one reciever.&quot;

I thought that was &quot;Multi Source&quot;? &nbsp; Big difference.


Shinerman</font>

 

[RX-V2400]

<font color='#000000'>SHINERMAN:

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;APPOLOGISE and THANKS

OK - I was totaly confused about Multi-channel input. Now I have re-read my manual in the new light of your input. I have multi-channel wired and selected, AND my DVD-A player is set to Analog Multi-Channel output. All this time my DVD player was outputting stereo!

I appologise for being so THICK, but more than that, I thank you for your input and patience with me because now, for the very first time I am hearing DVD Audio!</font>

 

[Shinerman]

<font color='#000000'>Good deal! &nbsp;

Now go listen to some DVD-A and let us know what you think. &nbsp;I bet you will be amazed.

I mentioned the Blue Man Group before. &nbsp;Try this DVD-A out. It's a great example of what DVD-A can do. &nbsp;It's not your everyday listening kind of music, but you will be amazed at how it will push your system and it's a good DVD-A to impress the neighbors. &nbsp;

Good luck, &nbsp;

Shinerman</font>

 

[Mudcat]

<font color='#000000'>Okay, now to really muddle things up, &nbsp;my only dvd is a dvd recorder (sony RX-G7 or something like that). &nbsp;It does not have the 5.1 multi-channel outputs. &nbsp;Since my 1400 can have two dvd (or one dvd and one DVDR) what dved players are out there that output 5.1 decoded?

I want make, model, serial numbers, dimensions, weight, colors, coffee pot controller!

</font>

 

[Shinerman]

<font color='#000000'>Mudcat,

I am assuming you want a DVD player that will play DVD-A and/or SACD. &nbsp;

I have a Panasonic DVD-F85. &nbsp;I really like it. &nbsp;It's a 5 disc unit. It plays everything except SACD. &nbsp;It only supports DVD-A in terms of Highrez. &nbsp;It was about $130 or so at Circuit City.

There is also the Pioneer &nbsp;563A which plays both SACD and DVD-A. &nbsp;I think it's about $170 or so. &nbsp; This player has gotten a lot of good reviews on audio sites.

These are just a couple that come to mind. &nbsp;There are many others around the same price and up. &nbsp; Just make sure whatever model you look at specifically states that it plays DVD-A or SACD. &nbsp;

Your current player will play the 5.1 digital tracks like DTS on DVD-A and other DVDs. &nbsp;It just won't play highrez DVD-A and SACD audio tracks. &nbsp;Likewise, you can play a DVD-A on any DVD player (with some exceptions), you just don't get the DVD-A track. &nbsp;You get DTS or whatever format is also included on the DVD.

Hope this helps. &nbsp;Other can probably give you other models.

Shinerman</font>

 

[jeffsg4mac]

<font color='#000000'>I have one of the pioneer players sitting in a box waiting for someone to buy it. I just got a Denon DVD 2200 which is amazing. I love it, best bang for the buck I think with higher quality players.</font>

 

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>Boy, that must have been painfull! &nbsp;I've never seen anyone get their arm twisted behind their back just to get a DVD-A signal decoded...

&nbsp; Oh well, at least DVD-A is alive and well in the RX-V2400 household!!!</font>

 

[pam]

<font color='#000000'>About the coffee pot controler, I have a X-10 module that is used to start my Isomac Tea in the morning (need 29 min to get the E-60 (like 1960) infuser hot enough to have good coffee.
When you get your soundmeter at Radio-shack, get your X-10 module (oups you don't need a soundmeter with YPAO).</font>

 

[zipper]

<font color='#000000'>Just curious. Are you getting these prices for the DVD-A players online? My local hifi dealer has some models but they are all between $400-$500. I'd love to step up to DVDA/SACD but don't want to shell out that much right now as I'm sure that, like everything else, the prices will eventually come down. Also, what is a good store(selection-wise) for buying DVDA/SACD formatted music?</font>

 

[Shinerman]

<font color='#000000'>Zipper,

The price for the Panasonic DVD-F85 is from Circuit City. I bought mine there about 5 or 6 months ago for $132, I think? &nbsp;It plays DVD-A and everything else possible except SACD. I would have bought the Pioneer 563A but I needed a 5 disc player with shuffle mode for CDs. &nbsp;Wife requirement.

The Pioneer is on sale at Crutchfield for $149.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AnJVl....0DV563A

This player does everything and is a steal at $149. &nbsp;It has received good reviews to date. &nbsp;

There are also other models in this price range. &nbsp;The Toshiba model RX-V2400 has is also under $150 I think.

Personally, if all you need is a single disc player, I would get the Pioneer. &nbsp;$149 is a deal.

Man, this thread won't die.

Shinerman</font>

 

[RX-V2400]

<font color='#000000'>My Toshiba SD-4800 (now replaced with the SD-4900) plays DVD-A (but not SDAC) and I got it at BestBuy for $99. The new SD-4900 is LISTED at $149.99</font>

 

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>John Dow,

GET A LIFE...

Sincerely,
Hayood Jablomi</font>

 

[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>John Dow,

GET A LIFE...

Sincerely,
Haywood Jablomi</font>

 

[GeorgeM]

<font color='#000000'>Zipper: &nbsp;If this dealer is giving you prices from $400 to $500, they're probably for DVD Recorders rather than DVD Players!

-GeorgeM</font>

 

[RX-V2400]

<font color='#000000'>The Yamaha DVD recorder and DVD-A player ALSO plays SACD. It's about the grand mark though</font>

 

[zipper]

<font color='#000000'>I went back &amp; looked again(Magnolia HiFi). They only carry Pioneer Elite, whether it's a receiver, DVD,etc. They had the Denon 2200 for $499. There is a Circuit City in the area, but I guess my next question would be: How much happier will I be with the Denon compared to something in the $100-$150 range? This is new territory for me so I definitely could use all the input I can get.

Thanks</font>

 

[Guest]

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RX-V2400 : <font color='#000000'>Jeff et al:

I hyave read my DVD-Audio player (Toshiba sd4800) manual and it says for inputing Dolby, Dolby Pro Logics or DTS into a a souround-sound reciever to use the digital optical out with the setting on Bitstream. This is what I am doing.

However I will connect the 5.1 analog connection up too and then I can switch from one to another. I also need to check my &quot;groups&quot;. It may be I was playing stereo and did not know it.

Thanks for the input and I will get5 backi to you soon.</font>

<font color='#000000'>If you don't use the 5.1 analog connections then you wont get DVD-A or SACD sound cause that processing is done from the player not the receiver. Unless you have a receiver-amp and Universal player that have both the special Firewire digital connection. Then all the formats go digitally to the receiver which takes care of every processing.</font>