which is the best way to break in surrounds and center speakers?

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mustaine

Audioholic Intern
Hi

which is the best way to break in surround and center speakers?
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
Are your speakers hooked up and have you turned them on? If you have they are already broken in. Speakers DO NOT break in, your ears adjust to the new sound. That is an audio myth my friend.The best way to break in your ears would be to listen to your new speakers for a while. Hope this helps ...
 
R-Carpenter

R-Carpenter

Audioholic
On the contrary, speaker is the one thing that does “brake in”. Brake in changes are rarely audible without direct comparison and more important to a speaker builder or designer then a consumer.
Back to your question. If you want to brake in you speakers, play them for 24 hours, preferably with some low frequency material or just use them.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
On the contrary, speaker is the one thing that does “brake in”. Brake in changes are rarely audible without direct comparison and more important to a speaker builder or designer then a consumer.
Back to your question. If you want to brake in you speakers, play them for 24 hours, preferably with some low frequency material or just use them.
Can you please tell me what part of the speaker breaks in? Are you saying the drivers need signal to "brake in" what good would low end stuff do for the tweeter?I guess you should run some pink noise to the tweeter for 24 hours? This is a myth. I have heard all kinds of opinions on this subject for years and 99.9% of them are false. Speakers take about 3 seconds to "brake in" and you are correct that it is inaudible....
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
I agree with just hooking them up and using them.
 
R-Carpenter

R-Carpenter

Audioholic
Mostly, the suspension brakes in. Surround starches, spider becomes more elastic.
You don't have to take my word for it. Read “Measuring Loudspeakers” by D'Appolito and find the paragraph on brake in period. I have measured a differences in the driver performance myself after 24hours of MLS. There's usually a slight change in FS and FR of the driver. Again, it's more important to a designer then a consumer.
Tweeters are the same situation but to less extend. Remember, Loudspeaker cone is an electromechanical system.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
Oh I am well aware of what a speaker is. I also know that like you said it is more important to designers than end user of break in period:eek:. Speakers that come off a line are not tested and when they are plugged in is the first time the receive signal. The break in occurs at the point signal flow hits the speaker terminals. You cannot hear an audible difference at all IMO but don't take my word for it......:D
 
R-Carpenter

R-Carpenter

Audioholic
Well, there's a very simple test you could do. Next time you get a new pair of speakers, play one for a week or so, then use an A-B switch.
In a direct comparison, there's a small audible difference. Is it important to a consumer? Not really. The speaker will perform to it's parameters one way or another, but if you are designing a ported system pushing cone extrusion to the limits, it very important.
The question was, do speakers burn in? Yes they do. Is it audible? Only in the controlled situation.
Is it important? Not to a consumer. How do you burn them in? Play em.
This is my last shot in this ping pong.
 
J

jamie2112

Banned
Its a tie...:D LOL. No, I do really respect your opinion on this and we all have one. Its ok to agree to disagree here that what makes it a great forum... Thanks for discussing it....
 
zhimbo

zhimbo

Audioholic General
Well, there's a very simple test you could do. Next time you get a new pair of speakers, play one for a week or so, then use an A-B switch.
In a direct comparison, there's a small audible difference.
Are there blind testing results available somewhere for me to read?
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I like to plug my speakers in and then blast them until they blow. I look at the DB level, take them back, get new ones and then stay below the "blow" point.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Mostly, the suspension brakes in. Surround starches, spider becomes more elastic.
You don't have to take my word for it. Read “Measuring Loudspeakers” by D'Appolito and find the paragraph on brake in period. I have measured a differences in the driver performance myself after 24hours of MLS. There's usually a slight change in FS and FR of the driver. Again, it's more important to a designer then a consumer.
Tweeters are the same situation but to less extend. Remember, Loudspeaker cone is an electromechanical system.


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.high-end/msg/7d26f5cc57ffd849

However. If I turn the stimulus off, within a few minutes most, if not
all, of the change has completely recovered, and we're back to go
again.
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Hi

which is the best way to break in surround and center speakers?
I'm glad you make the distinction, as it is important to note that we need to use diffferent frequencies during the all important break in period. The front speakers need a much deeper break in tone, with an emphasis on the chocalatey midrange. :eek:
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
I like to plug my speakers in and then blast them until they blow. I look at the DB level, take them back, get new ones and then stay below the "blow" point.
I never thought of that before but it actually makes sense. I might have to try that :D
 
Z

zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Its a tie...:D LOL. No, I do really respect your opinion on this and we all have one. Its ok to agree to disagree here that what makes it a great forum... Thanks for discussing it....
What do you know about speakers? Who do you think you are, an audio engineer or something?:p
 
S

soundhound

Junior Audioholic
I use a hammer. They DO sound different after that -- don't let anyone tell you speaker break in doesn't do anything. :p
 
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