What remastered CDs have blown you away ?

Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
Best way to get a true good remaster is from the org master tape. Of course even that can be screwed up by the person picked to re-master. Sometimes they need a little help to clean that master up but nowadays they seem to want to add 10db and take all the life out of them. How many times have you put in another cd without touching the volume only to be blasted because of that wonderful remaster or a new cd. Listen to some early cd from the 80's and to the new cd's now. Now sometimes they work out like LZ Mothership. A little loud but a pretty good job otherwise.

There is no master tape in the recordings I mentioned. They were direct to disc, back in the days when people played records at 78 rpm (the recordings were all made on or before 1930). They are all mono, and all have record surface noise. On the plus side, however, they did not have the technology at the time to compress the dynamic range of the recording artificially (if they wanted more or less dynamic range, the musicians simply played with more or less dynamic range). So they are surprisingly "natural", in certain respects, though the record surface noise and the frequency response limitations detract from the experience. Of course, when mastering for CD now, they could, if they wanted to, screw up the dynamic range. But no one seems to be doing that, as far as I know. Some companies do try very hard to get rid of the record surface noise, and there is simply no way to do that without adversely affecting the sound quality of the music that is recorded.

You might wonder, of course, why anyone would bother with such old recordings. The thing is, no one can play like Louis Armstrong in his prime, and no one can sing like Caruso. So either one listens to an old recording with problems, or one listens to a mere mortal instead of a musical god.
 
G

Gov

Senior Audioholic
I'm interested in any comments about the Rush remasters.

Thanks
 
shokhead

shokhead

Audioholic General
Not bad but not as good as the Atomic design WG.
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
Pink Floyd's Animals sounds really cool. I'm guessing the original didn't sound like the re-master. The album itself is from the late 70s. As far as I've been able to tell, nobody was creating soundstages like this in the studio until at least the 80s. Does anyone know about this?

Jim
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Pink Floyd's Animals sounds really cool. I'm guessing the original didn't sound like the re-master. The album itself is from the late 70s. As far as I've been able to tell, nobody was creating soundstages like this in the studio until at least the 80s. Does anyone know about this?
I don't know about that...Floyd has been creating some pretty interesting effects for decades. I have a '92 remaster of Animals and it does sound very good but of course I don't 'remember' how the original vinyl sounded.

Floyd even experimented with 'backwards masking' in the late '70s. I think it's the song Young Lust on The Wall that has a hidden message. It's the part that sounds unintelligible when played normally. If you take that part and reverse it with an audio editor you can clearly hear it: 'You have discovered the hidden message, send your answer to Pink care of the funny farm....' So I'd say its very possible that the original Animals sounded similar to the modern remasters though perhaps not as polished.
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
I'm not sure how to put it into words but there is something that's definitely different about the image and soundstage in well produced discs. When the singer or bass or drums sound like they are dead center, that's what I mean. When I listen to otherwise good stuff from the late 70s like Dire Straits, the imaging is not as sophisticated. I think there's a technique for doing that that must be fairly modern.

Jim
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
I don't know about that...Floyd has been creating some pretty interesting effects for decades. I have a '92 remaster of Animals and it does sound very good but of course I don't 'remember' how the original vinyl sounded.

Floyd even experimented with 'backwards masking' in the late '70s. I think it's the song Young Lust on The Wall that has a hidden message. It's the part that sounds unintelligible when played normally. If you take that part and reverse it with an audio editor you can clearly hear it: 'You have discovered the hidden message, send your answer to Pink care of the funny farm....' So I'd say its very possible that the original Animals sounded similar to the modern remasters though perhaps not as polished.
It actually says"...send your answer to Old Pink, PO box Floyd.":cool:
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
It actually says"...send your answer to Old Pink, PO box Floyd.":cool:
Just listened to it...

It's Young Lust between 1:13 and 1:23 and it says 'You've just discovered the secret message, please send your answer to old pink c/o of the funny farm, chalsfont (I assume that is a town in England).
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
Just listened to it...

It's Young Lust between 1:13 and 1:23 and it says 'You've just discovered the secret message, please send your answer to old pink c/o of the funny farm, chalsfont (I assume that is a town in England).
Weird. I must have heard it wrong back in my "playing records backward" days. Oh well, I am surprised to have any memories from those times!:D
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Weird. I must have heard it wrong back in my "playing records backward" days. Oh well, I am surprised to have any memories from those times!:D
Back in those days we used to take cassette tapes apart and reverse the tape so it would play 'backwards' when played normally so we could check out all these backwards masking claims. Most of the ones I've investigated are a real stretch to hear what is claimed to be said but the Floyd one is the real deal. Nowadays it's super simple to check it out by just reversing the section or whole song with an audio editor.
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
For the most part, I have been pretty pleased with remastered box sets (though I have read that the new Genesis set is hideous.) I particularly like my Talking Heads "brick". (I listen to the CD sides, not the DVD sides.)
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
Sometimes I find older recording disappointing even when the remastering is done well, simply because the recording itself was not so good. Last night, for example, I was listening to Jethro Tull's Stand Up remaster and found the overall sound muddy and lacking in detail (the drums, in particular, were more of a thump than a well-defined tone.) The vocals were also buried too far in the mix. By contrast, Songs from the Wood sounds excellent.
(Note: I still enjoyed it for the content.)
 
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