What do you think about what's gong on at the Capital??

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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Right, he should have poop canned Fauci. Remember how he wanted to stop the influx of travelers and the Dems raised hell. Joe is letting infected illegals cross daily and saturating US cities with them. Of course CV is soaring and Joe and crew are lost on controlling it.
Duh! What trade deals. Joe and Hunter have all the connections with China and still we are suffering on getting any products in the US.
LOL you've got it bad. Come on, you must have more conspiracy theories than that!
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Wrong again. I have been here a long time and just did not post.
You are as FOS as you were on AVS.
No I'm not wrong, you're out there....Lindell probably seems sane to you. The conspiracy theories are fascinating, tho.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic
Your humble offerings were great.
Wouldn't it have been educational and maybe fun if a few of the messes were listed and detailed so we could go back and forth in a civilized fashion? In debate class they teach if you cannot argue your point on facts or the merits and resort to calling the other side names you lost the debate.
Imagine politics coming up on a forum called "what do you think is going on at the Capital".
Outrageous!
Finally, to call who you think is a conservative a Fascist shows either an utter ignorance of history or someone under the Blue Media spell. Fascism is a creature of the Left, it is a sister of Socialism/Marxism/Communism/Progressivism and is 180 degrees the opposite of American Conservatism.
This is probably a waste of time but do try to think about it.
Fascism = Centralized Government, Government Control of the Economy, Union of Corporations/Government interests,, State/Corporate controlled media, censureship, an elite at the top keeping the masses down and fighting each other, laws and rules for us don't apply to the elite, lack of individual rights, limited private property, etc.
Does this sound familiar to you? Who spouts these values? Its opposite of conservatism.
I guess I'll be placed on ignore too, You can go back into the matrix...
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Field Marshall
This should be good
The election steal, darkening the social fabric of America (ie pouring gasoline on the fire), Doral resort to enrich himself ("phony" emoluments clause), his lack of distancing himself from the alt-right and the Charlottesville incident ("there were fine people on both sides"), and obviously January 6th and the question of dereliction of duty. Not really "policy" mind you, but nonetheless reasons why he's unfit to be POTUS. But then Republicans don't have any standards so alas what I say is meaningless.

There's also Faux Noise and how they've contributed to this mess.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Field Marshall
Just as I thought. You are the schmuck with diarrhea of the mouth. You talk sh!!t but have no answer.
I would like to hear two examples. If you can find them.
You're talking about policy but in fact it's about tone, behavior, character, etc. Basically integrity, which Trump has nothing of. The notion from the religious right that he's this religious person is possibly the silliest thing I've ever seen in politics. I gets back into public vs private behavior and how Trump is just too polarizing a figure. He can have the best policy ever, but it doesn't mean anything because the man's a prick. The rest of the world is laughing at us. As I've said before, this isn't the sunny optimism of Reagan. But you people don't care. Blurring the defintion of insurrection says to me I'm not too far off. You want him back. lord helmet Cheney's comment about "this isn't a party I recognize anymore."
 
Trell

Trell

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This has been fun but I'm putting you on ignore since you have so little to offer....
He and his pal reminds me of the following quote:

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position as at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party . . . There is so much dense, solid force in sheer stupidity, that any body of able men with that force pressing behind them may ensure victory in many a struggle, and many a victory the Conservative party has gained through that power."

John Stuart Mill ( British philosopher, economist, and liberal member of Parliament for Westminster from 1865 to 68 )”
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

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He and his pal reminds me of the following quote:

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position as at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party . . . There is so much dense, solid force in sheer stupidity, that any body of able men with that force pressing behind them may ensure victory in many a struggle, and many a victory the Conservative party has gained through that power."

John Stuart Mill ( British philosopher, economist, and liberal member of Parliament for Westminster from 1865 to 68 )”
Good quote about the Conservatives. Certainly was a product of the 19th Century.
Just a heads up before you dust it off again to "vanquish" an opponent.
Yes Mills was a UK MP in the 19th Century but I am afraid that's all you got right.
He was a 19th century Liberal which in the UK and European meaning = an American conservative, i.e. a passionate believer in freedom and individual rights. (Fun fact, we used to use the term in the same way in the US until the 1930s when FDR took it over to use it to describe his Progressive policies).
The Conservative party Mill is referring to is the Tory Party. The Tory Part was labeled Conservative because they defended the monarchy and the privileges of the aristocracy in the UK.
That kind of thinking lead to things like the Boston Tea Party, Dec. of Independence, etc. by now you must get where I am going with this.
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Field Marshall
If we are throwing out random quotes to bolster our opinions of ourselves, I'll play! One of my favorites, attributed to Winston Churchill (but has existed in several iterations for several hundred years - I like this version) goes thusly: "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." No truer words, especially today...
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic
You're talking about policy but in fact it's about tone, behavior, character, etc. Basically integrity, which Trump has nothing of. The notion from the religious right that he's this religious person is possibly the silliest thing I've ever seen in politics. I gets back into public vs private behavior and how Trump is just too polarizing a figure. He can have the best policy ever, but it doesn't mean anything because the man's a prick. The rest of the world is laughing at us. As I've said before, this isn't the sunny optimism of Reagan. But you people don't care. Blurring the defintion of insurrection says to me I'm not too far off. You want him back. lord helmet Cheney's comment about "this isn't a party I recognize anymore."
You make good points on behavior and tone. But we should not be surprised, he is after all a New Yorker and a former building contractor. Policies are more important the character. At least that's what the same people that criticize Trump's character said in the late 1990s about Clinton. But of course, if we are looking for consistency, we have to look outside of the political Left since they are all about the pursuit of power (remember, Conservatives want to dilute power). The Religious Right votes for him because they have no choice and because the left hates religion. He doesn't strike me as religious but he does fight for policies that they agree with. I wouldn't care what the rest of the world thinks about him or us. They are too busy trying to take advantage of us and entangle us in their affairs. The Founders of this country were right about that too. His trade policies benefited the American workers and the economy.
I don't necessarily want him back for the same reasons you mentioned but if there is a successor, he or she will require Trump's backing.
You are fixated on the term insurrection. I'm not the one blurring the definition. But if you want to call Jan 6 that, than you have to call Crossfire Hurricane and it's results leading up to the Mueller Report, Hillary and others claims about the illigitimacy 2016 election the same.
To close, would not quote Cheney, he's a RINO and war monger who was right on things about as often as a broken clock. As for his quote, its exactly what JFK would say if he were alive today.
So if we don't like Trump or Cruz or anybody on the Republican side what Democrat politician and their policies do you favor on the Left and how will they solve our problems?
 
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HTMAN

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He and his pal reminds me of the following quote:

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position as at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party . . . There is so much dense, solid force in sheer stupidity, that any body of able men with that force pressing behind them may ensure victory in many a struggle, and many a victory the Conservative party has gained through that power."

John Stuart Mill ( British philosopher, economist, and liberal member of Parliament for Westminster from 1865 to 68 )”
I read somewhere that the British liberals got their asses kicked by patriotic AMERICANS. That resulted in the freedom that we had for years. If the Dumbocrats have their way we will lose all that was gained.
You would be much wiser if you read quotes of our forefathers who wrote the Constitution.
 

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HTMAN

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The election steal, darkening the social fabric of America (ie pouring gasoline on the fire), Doral resort to enrich himself ("phony" emoluments clause), his lack of distancing himself from the alt-right and the Charlottesville incident ("there were fine people on both sides"), and obviously January 6th and the question of dereliction of duty. Not really "policy" mind you, but nonetheless reasons why he's unfit to be POTUS. But then Republicans don't have any standards so alas what I say is meaningless.

There's also Faux Noise and how they've contributed to this mess.
Did you ever wonder why Pelosi and WH security did not beef up security when they had info that the riot could happen?
I am sure that your kind also supports all the riots that occurred in 2020 because the Dems in power encouraged them.
 

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HTMAN

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If we are throwing out random quotes to bolster our opinions of ourselves, I'll play! One of my favorites, attributed to Winston Churchill (but has existed in several iterations for several hundred years - I like this version) goes thusly: "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." No truer words, especially today...
Thanks for telling us that liberals were probably the first racists.
 
MaxInValrico

MaxInValrico

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I read somewhere that the British liberals got their asses kicked by patriotic AMERICANS. That resulted in the freedom that we had for years. If the Dumbocrats have their way we will lose all that was gained.
You would be much wiser if you read quotes of our forefathers who wrote the Constitution.
Try reading the Constitution created by liberals and get back to me.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

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Keep pretending that you have a clue.
The road map to a conclusion that the Mueller report was based on fraud was laid out for you to see. If Rep Schiff's concession on the validity of the evidence is not enough for you well you be you. Always fight for the freedom to express an opinion.
Since quotes are a thing today:
"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" Twain.
 
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