Warp's first set of panels....

[Warpdrv]

I think you missed the part where I said I DON'T hvae a wife....

I never have been married... not sure if thats better or worse...
I love women, just haven't found the right one yet.. 40 this year, raising my son on my own.. I guess my time is just filled up with him and work and getting my house in order... hmmm sooner or later I'll meet that right girl, but until then, hehhehe I'll just meet all the rest of em.....

 

[Jack Hammer]

I think you missed the part where I said I DON'T hvae a wife....

Uh, yeah, I missed that part. That's ok, the same line with minor modification and proper delivery can work on yourself (if you let it).
... Hey wow, look I got the missing wedge shaped packing material for the hot tub in a separate box in the mail. Well, I hate to see it go to waste...

Jack

 

[Warpdrv]

Hehhehe too funny...

I usually spare no expense to make myself happy... I just keep aquiring more and more stuff... and can't tell myself no...

The only problem with that is, I have this new huge house, and Im a techy, so what do you think Im doing here... Filling it with goodies.

Maybe I should hire someone to help me decorate this place...

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

I remember talking with you on the phone and at the time you where one of the "will this really do anything for my room" kind of guy.
Hearing is believing ain't it?

Glenn

My HT evolved for a decade before room treatments were integrated, and woah....... did I learn fast the a difference a room can make.

Of all the various upgrades I've made over the years, I still believe the "room upgrade" was the most significant single upgrade I've ever made.

Granted, I was already mystified, a bit lost, and seeking the light when I finally picked up the phone & talked to Glen, but it was he who ultimately led me to audio salvation

HEH

For that.... I am forever grateful

The funny thing is......... I dont even remember how many I have....LOL. I'd have to think about it and count them up. Ten maybe?

 

[Tomorrow]

I was recently in one of the room treatment dealer websites...don't remember which, but it provided a calculator to determine the number of panels a person would need for their particular room (included size, wall/floor materials, etc.). LOL, it told me I needed 238 2'x4' panels!! I double checked my inputs and they were correct. Yikes. And here I was thinking I could maybe slip 2 or 3 past the missus.

 

[Nick250]

You never know, after conferring with Glen and looking at the somatic I sent him we concluded we would that 4 tri traps would cure the boomy problem. It made perfect sense on paper. Turns out I only needed two of them. Traps one and two cured the problem completely and traps three and four never even got taken out of the box. I had no problem with GIK taking them back for a full refund, but the shipping kills you. My message, if I have one, is it's possible you may need fewer than you think, or not.

Nick

 

[Scott R. Foster]

I was recently in one of the room treatment dealer websites...don't remember which, but it provided a calculator to determine the number of panels a person would need for their particular room (included size, wall/floor materials, etc.). LOL, it told me I needed 238 2'x4' panels!! I double checked my inputs and they were correct. Yikes. And here I was thinking I could maybe slip 2 or 3 past the missus.

WOW... 238 panels!

Cheaper to simply fill the room with insulation and carve out a cubby hole to curl up in with your speakers.

But, 2 panels is not going to be anywhere near the end of possible benefical use of broadband absorpers for a typical room... the proper choice for most applications lies between the numbers 2 and 238 - in the 12 to 15 panel range in our experience... but of course YMMV.

PS: For you DIY bass trap builders, here's a description of a very effective and very efficient design... there is a build tutorial with pics linked at the bottom of the page.

http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?t=534

 

[Glenn Kuras]

You never know, after conferring with Glen and looking at the somatic I sent him we concluded we would that 4 tri traps would cure the boomy problem. It made perfect sense on paper. Turns out I only needed two of them. Traps one and two cured the problem completely and traps three and four never even got taken out of the box. I had no problem with GIK taking them back for a full refund, but the shipping kills you. My message, if I have one, is it's possible you may need fewer than you think, or not.

Nick

As Scott was saying 2 for the most part is only a start, but HEY YOU are happy and that is what counts! Most people we have worked with start with a lower amount (4 to 6) then add more as time goes on. Most rooms we have worked with need between 8 to 10 though.

Glenn

 

[Scott R. Foster]

Glenn:

We often run into the question of when is one "done". The incremental approach that you describe is often taken [add a few panels starting in the corners - listen/measure - then decide if more are desired]. This can work quite well, though it is time consuming.

That said, I believe that absent some very strange circumstances no untreated small room would send back 2 out of 4 panels. I believe that were you and I in the room which is the subject of the anectdote, we would have readily found a beneficial way to use that other pair of GIK panels - a installation location that made a profoundly noticable beneficial difference.

But of course I am ignorant of the exact circumstances... so I can only surmise based on generalization.

 

[Nick250]

As Scott was saying 2 for the most part is only a start, but HEY YOU are happy and that is what counts! Most people we have worked with start with a lower amount (4 to 6) then add more as time goes on. Most rooms we have worked with need between 8 to 10 though.
Glenn

Glen, you probably don't remember but I had only one 90 degree corner in a fairly big room, and boominess was the only issue we were attacking.

Nick

 

[Glenn Kuras]

Glenn:

We often run into the question of when is one "done". The incremental approach that you describe is often taken [add a few panels starting in the corners - listen/measure - then decide if more are desired]. This can work quite well, though it is time consuming.

That said, I believe that absent some very strange circumstances no untreated small room would send back 2 out of 4 panels. I believe that were you and I in the room which is the subject of the anectdote, we would have readily found a beneficial way to use that other pair of GIK panels - a installation location that made a profoundly noticable beneficial difference.

But of course I am ignorant of the exact circumstances... so I can only surmise based on generalization.

For the most part I can agree with that, but Nick was pretty darn happy with how well 2 did for him, so "the customer is always right" comes into play.

>This can work quite well, though it is time consuming.<

It sure is, but just like anything else with this stuff most people like to do things in steps and as you know diminishing returns can come into play. Not that you will get it at 2 or 4 panels, but......
Pretty much you and I are saying close to the same thing.

Glenn

 

[Glenn Kuras]

Glen, you probably don't remember but I had only one 90 degree corner in a fairly big room, and boominess was the only issue we were attacking.

Nick

Nick,
Heck yes I remember. No worries at all, I am just glad you treated the room.

Glenn

 

[Scott R. Foster]

"the customer is always right"

Especially the happy ones!