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coricama

Audiophyte
Best AVR for handling vinyl?

Hello, I recently got the vinyl bug and picked up a Music Hall MMF-5.1 SE table.
I am very happy with it and am really enjoying resurrecting my vinyl collection. I purchased a VPI record cleaning machine and I'm amazed at how good 30/40 Y/O vinyl can sound after a proper cleaning. I am currently running the table to a Music Hall phono amp and then into my mid level Pioneer VSX -1019, Klipsch reference speakers. The AVR and Speakers were purchased for a home theater I have in the basement. The Pioneer lets me listen to vinyl in analog direct or 96K stereo. It sounds good but, I am open to upgrading the AVR to something that may be a bit more more musical. I do want to stay with one box to operate both the home theater set up as well as the turntable. My last AVR was a Denon that I was happy with but lacked HDMI, when I switched to Blu-ray and plasma, I felt like I needed HDMI and I settled on the Pioneer unit. Anyone have any thoughts/ experience with coming up with the best for both worlds?
 
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poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
If you can find a Yamaha RX-V1800 or RX-V1900 they have Phono inputs as well as lots of HDMI in/outs.

I'm running an RX-V1500 and it seems to handle the turntable well. Of course I'm sure there are boutique options you could go with, but I like the versatility of the RX-V series. They have lots of pre-outs so you can run multiple amp configurations if you want, they also have lots of power if you stick with the built in amp. I'm running a pair of Yamaha S115V mains with it (previously had them powered by their own dedicated 500W RMS amps) and they have great headroom for my living room.

Of course the S115Vs are quite efficient (99 dB sensitivity), but so are the Klipsch you're running. Not sure which model you've got but the current floor standing range from 95-101 dB sensitivity.
 
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coricama

Audiophyte
Thanks Aaron. I'm not really dissatisfied with the Pioneer. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I'm missing anything with the other AVRs out there. The Denon AVR3312CI and the Marantz av7005 keep catching my eye.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
A nice read about vinyl history and its path today.

The Brief Histories & Modern Journey of a Vinyl Record - The Brooklyn Rail


Steve Jobs was a vinylphile according to this article :p
vinyl records : NPR
The problem is that is lousy history and wrong.

Those discs cut in 1920 were was masters for producing shellac 78 rpm disc and NOT vinyl discs.

The first disc that I'm aware of, that is anything like a vinyl disc were the 16 inch WW II Victory discs.

I have had a chance to examine a number of these discs up close. The discs are not breakable and you can bend them a little, but they are not as compliant as the vinyl discs we know. The grooves look closer spaced than the shellac 78 rpm groove, but not as fine as the LP microgroove.

I have not played these discs, as I do not have a 12" tone arm. I have never seen the equipment used to play these.

I was was sent some radio transcription discs cut at a radio station in the 1950s I believe, at a radio station in Fargo ND.

The discs appeared to be made of a similar compound to the Victory discs, may be a bit more compliant. They were 12" and I think 78 rpm. They were microgroove and needed to be played with an LP head. At least I assumed so. I have no idea of the Eq curve, and had to Eq them by ear. Most of these discs I understand were 16", but luckily the ones given to me to archive, were 12". I understand some of these discs were 10".

Apparently there were a number of these direct cut systems used by US radio stations. They were direct cut and used for delayed broadcast. I understand these systems were in use up to circa 1960. The tape recorder gained slower acceptance in the US than Europe. I have been able to find very little good information on these broadcast transcription discs. They are mentioned here.

In any event I grew up in England, and the only broadcaster in the UK at that time was the BBC. The BBC I know were using tape, from my earliest memories. Believe it or not, but I have very clear memories of audio equipment I encountered, going back to the age of 3!

The modern 33 1/3 RPM microgroove LP as we know it was introduced, by Columbia records in the US in 1948. Decca soon followed in the UK. The EMI group a little later. However new shellac 78 rpm discs were still pressed at least in the UK well into the fifties.

The last new 78 rpm disc I purchased was in 1954 when I was 7, on the UK Columbia black label. part of the EMI group in the UK and not associated with US Columbia. It was a recording of the Polka and Fugue, from Schwanda the Bagpiper, by Jaromir Weinberger. It was purchased at Murdocks record store in Chatham Kent, long since out of business. I paid seven shillings and six pence for it.

Funny how I can remember all that better than last week.

Anyhow there is a corrected history for you.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
I am guessing that this is Chad Kassem's source for Analogue Production vinyl pressings (possibly owned by him), since Acoustic Sounds is not far from the address of this business.
I don't know, but when you order from QRP, it takes you to the Acoustic Sounds page, so it probably is the same guy. I got the Ella and Louis and the Getz/Gilberto. Getz/Gilberto in particular was worth the $50. Wow.
 
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