This is all Benjamin Franklin's Fault

[lovinthehd]

So mark. How exactly would you recommend removing illegals?

Just how many do you think drumphy has "removed"?

 

[Dude#1279435]

So mark. How exactly would you recommend removing illegals?

Is it worth increasing tensions to doi it though? It's why I suggested sealing the border and giving who are already inside a free pass. But keep the border sealed indefinitely. I'd wager there are other Republicans who do not agree with it.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Dept of War-- I can't stop cracking up about that name. It fits the Trump years to a tee. I'm not sure if he's at war with the left, or himself LOL.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Well, it makes a good story, and I'm not entirely sure Lonnie was wrong. Don't forget my early childhood was in bombed out Brittain, and anti German feeling was rampant. The Germans were rightly demonized through a lot of my childhood. Not really surprising, the damage was everywhere, and people were still acutely mourning people killed in the war, and many were not combatants. Don't forget the Germans had created trouble three times in less than one hundred years before I was born.
So, yes I harbor an understandable suspicion of Germans, and the fact that Trump is half German certainly reinforces it.

I can certainly understand resentment towards former enemies - especially brutal ones like the Nazis - as it's only human. My grandfather served in the RN during the 2nd WW (he was a Newfoundlander) and survived the sinkings of HMS Latona (Stuka divebomber) and HMS Heythrop (U-boat) in the Mediterranean.

As for Trump, I'm not willing to grant him the excuse of his ethnic background for his complete lack of morality. Some of his father's misanthropic traits appear to have carried over to his son, but I don't blame the German people for that.

As for ICE, their conduct has been utterly deplorable. And, it's clear that their actions are not only condoned by their chain of command, it is being actively encouraged. The top cover they have been given granted must surely instill a mindset of impunity, which may be a contributing factor in the shooting of Renee Good.

 

[highfigh]

Oh, but that isn't what the video shows. And I believe the agent drew his weapon before she started moving. There is a clip of that second or two.

I can't imagine thinking "I should drive away or toward a federal officer with their gun drawn and possibly aimed at me".

 

[highfigh]

Dept of War-- I can't stop cracking up about that name. It fits the Trump years to a tee. I'm not sure if he's at war with the left, or himself LOL.

I know people who refer to their wife or gf as 'The War Department' when they're in trouble and if they don't see the name on the screen of their phone, we (friends) let them know who is calling.

Somehow, the idea that he's playing Army inside of his head seems real.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Just how many do you think drumphy has "removed"?

I couldn’t say.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Is it worth increasing tensions to doi it though? It's why I suggested sealing the border and giving who are already inside a free pass. But keep the border sealed indefinitely. I'd wager there are other Republicans who do not agree with it.

The ones increasing tensions are the mental patients in the streets. I’m not saying ICE is going about things in the best way. But their job could be made much easier without people throwing things at them and spitting on them and blocking traffic etc.
The problem with giving a pass, is that so many of them have been here for so long and the majority are still on welfare. And more than that, there’s the problem of assimilation. Or lack thereof. Keeping the border sealed indefinitely would theoretically allow for them do eventually die off. But imo that’s an unnecessary long term drain on tax money and resources. Tax money is already wasted enough. Surely you’re not suggesting we do nothing?

 

[TLS Guy]

So mark. How exactly would you recommend removing illegals?

Unless they had a definite violent criminal history, I would assimilate them. Round here only hispanics will do the labor roofing and concrete work. I can tell you a lot of them are really skilled.

 

[Dude#1279435]

The ones increasing tensions are the mental patients in the streets. I’m not saying ICE is going about things in the best way. But their job could be made much easier without people throwing things at them and spitting on them and blocking traffic etc.
The problem with giving a pass, is that so many of them have been here for so long and the majority are still on welfare. And more than that, there’s the problem of assimilation. Or lack thereof. Keeping the border sealed indefinitely would theoretically allow for them do eventually die off. But imo that’s an unnecessary long term drain on tax money and resources. Tax money is already wasted enough. Surely you’re not suggesting we do nothing?

Ok, but if rules of engagement are not followed and more bad things happen, don't come crying to me if avenues are made to prosecute where there are clear lapses.

 

[highfigh]

Unless they had a definite violent criminal history, I would assimilate them. Round here only hispanics will do the labor roofing and concrete work. I can tell you a lot of them are really skilled.

It's that way everywhere in the US. In England, many seem to prefer hiring Polish immigrants for the same reasons- they work hard and get it done.

To be honest, it's not hard to understand why people don't want to do those jobs- hanging drywall and most landscaping can be added to the list- it's really hard work and Americans aren't active enough from childhood to adult age to handle the jobs. Have schools started to require Phys Ed? From the shape of people in this area, I would bet not.

 

[highfigh]

Unless they had a definite violent criminal history, I would assimilate them. Round here only hispanics will do the labor roofing and concrete work. I can tell you a lot of them are really skilled.

OK, but if they were let in without vetting over the past decades, how would we know if they had a known criminal history and why do so many people have a problem with holding immigrants until their past has been discovered? The borders are controlled everywhere else, but people want the US to let everyone to scatter like mice. They wouldn't allow strangers into their homes, though.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Unless they had a definite violent criminal history, I would assimilate them. Round here only hispanics will do the labor roofing and concrete work. I can tell you a lot of them are really skilled.

Indeed many of them are skilled. I have friends who are Mexican that own businesses, work hard, pay taxes, and have assimilated nicely, and can speak English very well. The other group we’re talking about, have no interest in assimilation, and seem to want to make America into the same piece of shitt hell hole they left. All the while, siphoning free money for themselves and their own native shitt hole. It’s disgusting.

 

[3db]

I think it is no coincidence that Trump is half German. There is a serious flaw that runs through the German character. This was really drilled into me by ny Geography Master Mr. Lonnie Johnson. He averaged three tirades against the Germans at least, in every class. Time is now proving him right.

I have lost all respect for you. This is dumbest thing ever come out of your mouth. I seriously believe that you are very damaged goods and a racist ahole !!!

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Ok, but if rules of engagement are not followed and more bad things happen, don't come crying to me if avenues are made to prosecute where there are clear lapses.

If prosecution is warranted, great. Make I happen. That goes for both sides.
And why are there “sides” here at all. People who are illegally have no right to be here. But hey, let’s give them all a drivers license, and let them vouch for up to eight people. Been to St. Cloud lately? Can hardly even drive there because they drive so bad. Can’t speak English. How can you read a road sign…
Brilliant.

 

[3db]

Well, it makes a good story, and I'm not entirely sure Lonnie was wrong. Don't forget my early childhood was in bombed out Brittain, and anti German feeling was rampant. The Germans were rightly demonized through a lot of my childhood. Not really surprising, the damage was everywhere, and people were still acutely mourning people killed in the war, and many were not combatants. Don't forget the Germans had created trouble three times in less than one hundred years before I was born.
So, yes I harbor an understandable suspicion of Germans, and the fact that Trump is half German certainly reinforces it.

My mother was strafed in Bad Hamburg, lost their house and she still rose above the hate that one man caused. My grandfather, her father who was a captain in the Whermacht, helped hide Jews, spoke against Hitler and the war and as a result was busted down to corporal ahd shipped to the Russian front which he survived. Imagine that behaviour from a German.