The Purge

[highfigh]

Isn’t that the way it's supposed to work? Government sets policy goals, then implements taxation regimes with the aim of achieving those goals. Setting arbitrary revenue goals, then formulating policy around them makes no sense.

It's better for the taxpayers when government doesn't look for ways to spend just because it makes people believe government is there to help. It wouldn't be bad to have some discretionary spending, but the way they have pissed away trillions of dollars, I don't expect them to become fiscally responsible anytime soon.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Someone needs to tell them that anyone who needs NNSA clearance has to be interviewed and anyone vouching for them would be interviewed by the FBI.

That's the thing. It seems that Musk and his minions are running amuck through various federal departments and agencies with nobody standing their ground and telling him, "You have no authority here! Go 'eff yourself!".

 

[TankTop5]

That's the thing. It seems that Musk and his minions are running amuck through various federal departments and agencies with nobody standing their ground and telling him, "You have no authority here! Go 'eff yourself!".

They are federal employees auditing Executive Branch agencies under direction of the Chief Executive. Quit parroting complete lies from the left, you think if you repeat it enough it’ll gain traction, it won’t. We literally voted to go through the government with a wrecking ball and destroy these bureaucracies, you may as well grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.

 

[Trell]

They are federal employees auditing Executive Branch agencies under direction of the Chief Executive. Quit parroting complete lies from the left, you think if you repeat it enough it’ll gain traction, it won’t. We literally voted to go through the government with a wrecking ball and destroy these bureaucracies, you may as well grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.

Good grief! Aren't you the poster child of a MAGA supporter?

 

[Trell]

Trump has a corrupting influence on his lawyers and many of them did not have the moral integrity to resist (some did, though). Mr. Bove was a recent defence lawyer for Trump and now we know the level of his moral integrity is in his new capacity acting U.S. deputy attorney general: quite low.

Here's a list of Trump lawyers facing legal consequences (article 2024.09.26). Likely there are other shady Trump lawyers not on the list below:

Giuliani Disbarred In D.C.: Here Are All The Other Ex-Trump Lawyers Now Facing Legal Consequences

Giuliani was stripped of his law license in Washington, D.C., months after being disbarred in New York.

www.forbes.com

 

[Mr._Clark]

Good lord.

>>>Trump officials fired nuclear staff not realizing they oversee the country’s weapons stockpile, sources say

Trump administration officials fired more than 300 staffers Thursday night at the National Nuclear Security Administration — the agency tasked with managing the nation’s nuclear stockpile — as part of broader Energy Department layoffs, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

Sources told CNN the officials did not seem to know this agency oversees America’s nuclear weapons. . . .

The agency began rescinding the terminations Friday morning.

Some of the fired employees included NNSA staff who are on the ground at facilities where nuclear weapons are built. These staff oversee the contractors who build nuclear weapons, and they inspect these weapons. . . .

The agency made the about face Friday morning; during a meeting, acting NNSA administrator Teresa Robbins said the agency had received direction to rescind the termination of probationary employees. <<< (emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html

>>>On Friday, an employee still at NNSA told NPR that the firings are now "paused," in part because of the chaotic way in which they unfolded. Another employee had been contacted and told that their termination had been "rescinded." But some worried the damage had already been done. Nuclear security is highly specialized, high-pressure work, but it's not particularly well paid, one employee told NPR. Given what's unfolded over the past 24 hours, "why would anybody want to take these jobs?" they asked.<<<

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/nx-s1-5298190/nuclear-agency-trump-firings-nnsa

 

[GO-NAD!]

They are federal employees auditing Executive Branch agencies under direction of the Chief Executive. Quit parroting complete lies from the left, you think if you repeat it enough it’ll gain traction, it won’t.

If you say so.

We literally voted to go through the government with a wrecking ball and destroy these bureaucracies, you may as well grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.

You're one of those nihilistic "burn it all down" types, eh? I suspect there's a whole lot of Trump voters saying "I didn't vote for this!"

 

[GO-NAD!]

Good lord.

>>>Trump officials fired nuclear staff not realizing they oversee the country’s weapons stockpile, sources say

Trump administration officials fired more than 300 staffers Thursday night at the National Nuclear Security Administration — the agency tasked with managing the nation’s nuclear stockpile — as part of broader Energy Department layoffs, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

Sources told CNN the officials did not seem to know this agency oversees America’s nuclear weapons. . . .

The agency began rescinding the terminations Friday morning.

Some of the fired employees included NNSA staff who are on the ground at facilities where nuclear weapons are built. These staff oversee the contractors who build nuclear weapons, and they inspect these weapons. . . .

The agency made the about face Friday morning; during a meeting, acting NNSA administrator Teresa Robbins said the agency had received direction to rescind the termination of probationary employees. <<< (emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html

>>>On Friday, an employee still at NNSA told NPR that the firings are now "paused," in part because of the chaotic way in which they unfolded. Another employee had been contacted and told that their termination had been "rescinded." But some worried the damage had already been done. Nuclear security is highly specialized, high-pressure work, but it's not particularly well paid, one employee told NPR. Given what's unfolded over the past 24 hours, "why would anybody want to take these jobs?" they asked.<<<

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/nx-s1-5298190/nuclear-agency-trump-firings-nnsa

Tanktop5 apparently voted for this.

 

[TankTop5]

Tanktop5 apparently voted for this.

Stop, they already rescinded the terminations. Mistakes will be made when you’re trying to slash a trillion dollars from the budget. These things can be fixed very quickly as this one already has.

Guess I should get used to every mistake that occurs along the way and people yelling, I told you so. Just wait until Medicaid gets slashed, I have a transportation business that is funded by Medicaid. I’m making other plans as I don’t believe this business model will exist by the end of the year, I’m literally putting my money where my mouth is. Other than posting garbage how do you think Federal cuts will directly affect you?

 

[mtrycrafts]

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Good lord.

>>>Trump officials fired nuclear staff not realizing they oversee the country’s weapons stockpile, sources say

Trump administration officials fired more than 300 staffers Thursday night at the National Nuclear Security Administration — the agency tasked with managing the nation’s nuclear stockpile — as part of broader Energy Department layoffs, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

Sources told CNN the officials did not seem to know this agency oversees America’s nuclear weapons. . . .

The agency began rescinding the terminations Friday morning.

Some of the fired employees included NNSA staff who are on the ground at facilities where nuclear weapons are built. These staff oversee the contractors who build nuclear weapons, and they inspect these weapons. . . .

The agency made the about face Friday morning; during a meeting, acting NNSA administrator Teresa Robbins said the agency had received direction to rescind the termination of probationary employees. <<< (emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html

>>>On Friday, an employee still at NNSA told NPR that the firings are now "paused," in part because of the chaotic way in which they unfolded. Another employee had been contacted and told that their termination had been "rescinded." But some worried the damage had already been done. Nuclear security is highly specialized, high-pressure work, but it's not particularly well paid, one employee told NPR. Given what's unfolded over the past 24 hours, "why would anybody want to take these jobs?" they asked.<<<

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/nx-s1-5298190/nuclear-agency-trump-firings-nnsa

Apparently, they didn't hire the best and brightest, as usual. Talk is cheap, action, not so much on their part.
Maybe they thought they were DEI employees.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Stop, they already rescinded the terminations. Mistakes will be made when you’re trying to slash a trillion dollars from the budget. These things can be fixed very quickly as this one already has.

Guess I should get used to every mistake that occurs along the way and people yelling, I told you so. Just wait until Medicaid gets slashed, I have a transportation business that is funded by Medicaid. I’m making other plans as I don’t believe this business model will exist by the end of the year, I’m literally putting my money where my mouth is. Other than posting garbage how do you think Federal cuts will directly affect you?

No. Mistakes are made when you rush and not hire the best and brightest. Simple.

 

[TankTop5]

If you say so.


You're one of those nihilistic "burn it all down" types, eh? I suspect there's a whole lot of Trump voters saying "I didn't vote for this!"

They work for the USDS. Elon just came out and stated he hold the highest security clearance there is and has many security clearances that are themselves classified. You can easily look this stuff up but you’d rather blab nonsense.

usds.gov

 

[mtrycrafts]

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You're one of those nihilistic "burn it all down" types, eh? I suspect there's a whole lot of Trump voters saying "I didn't vote for this!"

Or they will when it affects them directly. What happened. I didn't vote for this or I didn't think he would do it and project 2025 was a just a myth.

 

[mtrycrafts]

They work for the USDS. Elon just came out and stated he hold the highest security clearance there is and has many security clearances that are themselves classified. You can easily look this stuff up but you’d rather blab nonsense.

usds.gov

Right. How did Elon earn those clearances? Not from a thorough background check as he was being investigated for stuff.
Trump waved the wand and Elon has a clearance.

 

[Trell]

Right. How did Elon earn those clearances? Not from a thorough background check as he was being investigated for stuff.
Trump waved the wand and Elon has a clearance.

Musk claim he has had a top security clearance for years (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1890282404897534089).

While I agree with him that much information is classified, I for sure don't agree that if something is easily found online it should not be classified. What happens if someone don't properly secure a website containing secret/top secret information?

Now, this article argues he would fail to gave a top secret clearance (emphasis added in quote):

>>>The space entrepreneur Elon Musk is unlikely to receive government security clearances if he so applied, even as his SpaceX launch company blasts military and spy agency payloads into orbit, according to a report on Monday.

The billionaire, a close ally of Donald Trump, who is set to join the incoming administration as an efficiency expert and recently became the first person to exceed $400bn in self-made personal wealth, is reported by the Wall Street Journal to have been advised by SpaceX lawyers not to seek highest-level security clearances owing to personal drug use and contacts with foreign nationals.


Musk currently holds a “top-secret” clearance that took years to obtain after he discussed use of marijuana on a 2018 podcast with Joe Rogan, according to the outlet. But that may not be enough to have access to information about US government payloads in his rockets.

Typically, candidates undergoing federal security screenings by the department of defense may not receive clearance if the agency expresses concerns about drug or alcohol use, criminal conduct, psychological conditions, sexual behavior or allegiance to the US.
According to the Journal, Musk’s lawyers outlined scenarios in which he might inadvertently disclose secrets to foreign officials with whom he regularly speaks, including the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, with whom he is reported to have been in regular contact since 2022.

Musk’s use of another semi-legal drug, ketamine, in pursuit of what friends call “pure creativity”, along with reports of LSD, ecstasy and magic mushrooms, could also be an issue.

Musk lawyers told the Journal there had been “false facts” in a WSJ report about Musk’s drug patterns and he was “regularly and randomly drug tested at SpaceX and has never failed a test”.

SpaceX lawyers and executives reportedly concluded that if the company sought a higher level of clearance than Musk currently holds, he risked being turned down and potentially stripped of the clearances he currently holds.

But the Journal noted that the issue could become irrelevant when Trump returns to the White House next month. ...<<<

Elon Musk will not receive highest-level government security clearance – reports

The SpaceX head has been advised to not seek the same over his drug use and contacts with foreign nationals

www.theguardian.com

 

[GO-NAD!]

They work for the USDS. Elon just came out and stated he hold the highest security clearance there is and has many security clearances that are themselves classified. You can easily look this stuff up but you’d rather blab nonsense.

usds.gov

"Elon stated". He states a lot of complete bullshit, as well. Sorting his factual statements from his mis- and disinformation would be a full-time job. No matter what clearances he has, he turned loose a bunch of flunkies whose security clearances amount to "I work for Elon".

Executive Branch agencies?

Do Elon Musk and DOGE have power to cut spending, close agencies?

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www.statesman.com

"Blab nonsense"

 

[GO-NAD!]

Stop, they already rescinded the terminations. Mistakes will be made when you’re trying to slash a trillion dollars from the budget. These things can be fixed very quickly as this one already has.

Guess I should get used to every mistake that occurs along the way and people yelling, I told you so. Just wait until Medicaid gets slashed, I have a transportation business that is funded by Medicaid. I’m making other plans as I don’t believe this business model will exist by the end of the year, I’m literally putting my money where my mouth is. Other than posting garbage how do you think Federal cuts will directly affect you?

So, Medicaid is just a way to make money? That’s all it means to you? The people covered by Medicaid don't need or deserve health care?

How does it affect me? When the government of the superpower next door is hell-bent on sowing chaos, it can't help but have wider ramifications.

 

[TankTop5]

So, Medicaid is just a way to make money? That’s all it means to you? The people covered by Medicaid don't need or deserve health care?

How does it affect me? When the government of the superpower next door is hell-bent on sowing chaos, it can't help but have wider ramifications.

I really loved the work and really helped a lot of people but no, most of them absolutely do not deserve free healthcare. I have some of the best private insurance money can buy and Medicaid benefits far exceeded what I can even get and I have to pay thousands in co-pays in addition to my premiums.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I really loved the work and really helped a lot of people but no, most of them absolutely do not deserve free healthcare. I have some of the best private insurance money can buy and Medicaid benefits far exceeded what I can even get and I have to pay thousands in co-pays in addition to my premiums.

Sounds like you guys need some form of universal health care. Nobody gets it for free, because everyone pays taxes. Well, almost everyone. If a person is so poor that they don't pay any taxes - not even sales taxes - I'm OK with giving them free health care.

 

[Alex2507]

I’m literally putting my money where my mouth is.

Ewww ... spit that out.