Tekton Enzo - The most inexpensive speakers that is in the league with high-end speaker

[SearchofSub]

The Glow One is said to be a 5wpc but there are precious little specifications. My best guess is that it has a substantial output impedance which affects the speaker's frequency response like an equalizer would. The larger the output impedance, the more the speaker's FR takes on the characteristics of the speaker's impedance profile. Further, as you go past the 5 watts, both the amp's distortion and output impedance will likely rise significantly and in a non linear fashion adding to the euphonic character of the sound. Keep in mind that Tekton overstates their sensitivity, as does Zu, by something on the order of 3-4 dB's. IOW they're not really all that efficient making the use of very low wattage amps more than a bit problematic albeit it 'interesting'. A comparatively more sane and less expensive choice might be something like the tube amp from Carvin which IIRC is made in the USA and substantially more powerful.

Without specifics this can be due to any number of reasons. You do give up room correction though.


Adding significant amounts of distortion will do that for you. Might as well go to Guitar Center and buy some purpose built effects electronics.

mixing alcohol and recreational drugs or Bath Salts can have that effect.


Stop reading the lunatic fringe websites and watching infomercials.

Good luck hearing anything without a DAC.


What is this matrixing you're talking about? How does one get purer and neutral sounds if every cable and power cord can affect things?

If you mean vinyl or tape, keep in mind they're recorded differently and also playback differently than digital. In any event it's very much a niche medium.

Is that where you came from!

" IOW they're not really all that efficient making the use of very low wattage amps more than a bit problematic albeit it 'interesting'. A comparatively more sane and less expensive choice might be something like the tube amp from Carvin which IIRC is made in the USA and substantially more powerful."


Perhaps the most productive comment in the last 30 posts or so.

 

[Chu Gai]

99% of newbs in HT wil use a matrix code to watch their movies. and matrix code is pure colorazation.

How is taking the discrete 5.1 information matrixing?

I'd rather get a DAC and a hand assmbled AMP do the coloring than a cheapo china manufactured modern recievers doing the coloring.

as opposed to an el cheapo hand made Chinese amp, right? If there was any volume in selling this stuff, it'd go on an automated production line. One of the good things about the handmade Chinese stuff is that buyers in china can always say, "My 12 yo son made that!"

I want REAL sound.. For instance, when a bat flys over, I want to hear the bat flapping their wings in real size. Or when is a rain pouring outside, like on friday the 13th, I want to hear real rain sounds..

The modern recievers matrix are coded in THX and the likes... Whicvh means what? you will most likely get a theatre quality sound at the most. When you watch a movie at a theatre do the movies sound REAL to you? Never neutral, always warm for some dang reason.

There is always a colorization in movie theatre sounds from the REAL sound thats outside. Clarity for one, and what makes clearer sounding speakers than Tekton? (on a side note)

It takes a lot of bats in order for you to hear the sounds of their wings flapping.

 

[SearchofSub]

Why do you say the Tektons are off 4-5 db in effciency.. Is this something you just came up with on top of your head?

 

[SearchofSub]

From what I am reading now, it seems like all internal DACS on recievers are all warm sounding. Not close to being REAL or neutral. I told you.. these modern recievers are made for THX quality. If you are gonna get a neutral speaker like an enzo, definately not the way to go.

 

[rocky500]

The only review I have seen on effeciency has been the stereomojo review. Even then he is just guessing.
I do have some Wilson Benesch ACT speakers 88dB, Custom made speakers 92dB and some Mgneplanar 1.7 speakers and the Enzo's definitely are a lot louder at similar positions on the volume control.
This on on a XSP-1 Preamp.
Can I use a multimeter or something to check it?
Like measure the volts at the speaker terminals and use a sound meter in front at 1m.

 

[Chu Gai]

Why do you say the Tektons are off 4-5 db in effciency.. Is this something you just came up with on top of your head?

The Pens measured about 3 dB less than what is claimed at StereoMojo. Granted I'm painting with a very broad brush by extrapolating so call it a gut feeling. Unfortunately the vast majority of professional reviewers lack the ability to confirm stated claims and instead regurgitate the white papers that accompany a product. They're professional regurgitators.

 

[rocky500]

I have a calibrated Coss-Spectrum Galaxy CM-140 sound level meter and a fluke multimeter if that is what is needed?

 

[Chu Gai]

The only review I have seen on effeciency has been the stereomojo review. Even then he is just guessing.
I do have some Wilson Benesch ACT speakers 88dB, Custom made speakers 92dB and some Mgneplanar 1.7 speakers and the Enzo's definitely are a lot louder at similar positions on the volume control.
This on on a XSP-1 Preamp.
Can I use a multimeter or something to check it?
Like measure the volts at the speaker terminals and use a sound meter in front at 1m.

For an 8 ohm speaker, try playing pink noise and measure the voltage at the speaker terminals, setting it to 2.83 volts. Place a microphone one meter away and measure the dB. For a 4 ohm speaker, set it to 2 volts. Some manufacturers improperly, at least IMO, call their 4 ohm speakers 8 ohms and nudge a higher sensitivity rating as a result. Kind of like determining MPG using a tail wind.

 

[rocky500]

The Tekton Enzo is 6 Ohm will that change it all?
From the specs - 6 Ohm average impedance - 4 Ohm minimum impedance

 

[Chu Gai]

Yo, Rocky, a lot of the infomercials here have personalities with Australian accents. Just wondering if over there do they have American or some other accents? Also, I bought some Dawn dish washing liquid and it said it has a fresh New Zealand spring scent. Does springtime in NZ smell good?

 

[Chu Gai]

See if you can get a measured impedance profile and post it here. Maybe it's six, maybe not. There's a fair amount of wiggle room and fudging by manufacturers. But yes, for 6 ohms, you'd need less that 2.83 volts. I'll leave the calculations to you.

 

[SearchofSub]

Please give us an update with the measurements when you are done measuring rocky.

 

[rocky500]

Hopefully later I will have some time after work.
I noticed on there web page they have the specs
98dB sensitivity 2.83V@1m
So I take it I measure at 2.83V as that is in there specs.

 

[fuzz092888]

99% of newbs in HT wil use a matrix code to watch their movies. and matrix code is pure colorazation.

Now who's pulling stuff from off the top of their head. Based on what is using a matrix mode colorization? What OBJECTIVE PROOF do you have that it colors the sound? What EXPERIENCE is this based off of?

I'd rather get a DAC and a hand assmbled AMP do the coloring than a cheapo china manufactured modern recievers doing the coloring.

Just because it is mass produced doesn't mean the quality of parts is low, but we'll leave the business lessons for another day.

I want REAL sound.. For instance, when a bat flys over, I want to hear the bat flapping their wings in real size. Or when is a rain pouring outside, like on friday the 13th, I want to hear real rain sounds..

Have you ever watched a movie in a proper home HT? I have and do most days.

The modern recievers matrix are coded in THX and the likes... Whicvh means what? you will most likely get a theatre quality sound at the most. When you watch a movie at a theatre do the movies sound REAL to you? Never neutral, always warm for some dang reason.

You mean they have the option for those matrixing modes. Again based on what? I can sit here and compare the sound quality of all those modes to pure direct at the push of a button. All of them sound REAL, slightly different, but REAL. I've also taken measurements to verify that the modes I use aren't coloring the sound. Real world experience right there.

There is always a colorization in movie theatre sounds from the REAL sound thats outside. Clarity for one, and what makes clearer sounding speakers than Tekton? (on a side note)

You keep saying movie theater, but aren't we talking about home HT? Seeing as you've never heard Tekton or claimed to have heard any accurate speaker for that matter, it's comical that you keep talking about sound colorization and accuracy. Especially since it hasn't even been verified that Tekton speakers are accurate.

What AVR models were you using?

Marantz 5006, Onkyo 3009, Outlaw 970. The first two are receivers with pre outs, plus are hardly "cheap" or "poorly built" and the last one is a preamp separate.

From what I am reading now, it seems like all internal DACS on recievers are all warm sounding. Not close to being REAL or neutral. I told you.. these modern recievers are made for THX quality. If you are gonna get a neutral speaker like an enzo, definately not the way to go.

Zero proof for nonsense claims.

 

[ImcLoud]

This is getting sickening... go back and read half of the OPs posts, its 99% nonsense. He is obviously bored and looking to get banned, just trying to see how much admin lets him get away with. hes throwing out phrases and terms to sound like he knows what he is talking about and making a fool of himself...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Hopefully later I will have some time after work.
I noticed on there web page they have the specs
98dB sensitivity 2.83V@1m
So I take it I measure at 2.83V as that is in there specs.

I wouldn't ASSUME anything with Tekton. They don't provide any actual measurements either.

 

[ImcLoud]

I wouldn't ASSUME anything with Tekton. They don't provide any actual measurements either.

All the BS in this thread aside, I own a lot of speakers and out of them all my satin red lores get the most compliments, there is definitely something about the simplicity and casual lines that make it attractive, they also sound good which helps, but you have to admit he has some attractive looking products, look through his blog Tektondesign's Blog | Just another WordPress.com weblog that pendragon home theater with the dual dual subs is pretty nice, and the price of 6500 shipped isn't bad, I would rather have that then one of them $8K klipsch setups...

So anyway its not all about the measurements with a lot of buyers, some people {and I think the people that are looking for something edgy and different} will pay for and fall in love with his stuff...

I'll best if you let Eric at Tekton design Dennis's Phil 3 cabinets I would buy a set, picture them without that pyramid shaped top, just squared off with the soft rounded edge, painted in matte black with an antique white square name plate...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

All the BS in this thread aside, I own a lot of speakers and out of them all my satin red lores get the most compliments, there is definitely something about the simplicity and casual lines that make it attractive, they also sound good which helps, but you have to admit he has some attractive looking products, look through his blog Tektondesign's Blog | Just another WordPress.com weblog that pendragon home theater with the dual dual subs is pretty nice, and the price of 6500 shipped isn't bad, I would rather have that then one of them $8K klipsch setups...

So anyway its not all about the measurements with a lot of buyers, some people {and I think the people that are looking for something edgy and different} will pay for and fall in love with his stuff...

I'll best if you let Eric at Tekton design Dennis's Phil 3 cabinets I would buy a set, picture them without that pyramid shaped top, just squared off with the soft rounded edge, painted in matte black with an antique white square name plate...

Everyone has a different comfort zone. I would not feel comfortable paying $6500 for any speakers that have absolutely no measurements from either manufacturers or 3rd party reviews. It doesn't tell us how the speakers measure or sound in our own rooms, but at least it tells us the speakers' potential.

Trust is obviously a huge issue. It has to be earned. The issue with Tekton isn't SQ. It's trust.

And we all have different opinions for sure. I would rather have the Klipsch KL650-THX Ultra2 speakers than Tekton, JTR, Seaton, etc.

 

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OP: Timeline

7-25 : So I just ordered my pair of Tekton eNZO's
7-27: I was planning to get the enzo's but after hearing your thoughts I think I am gonna just settle for the LORE's instead
7-29: Well for what its worth I am gonna order my Tekton eNZO's tommorow along
7-30: Today I called to order
7-31: Just an update. I just spoke to Daniel at Tekton to finalize everything
7-31: Getting the 4.1 M-Lore line
8-04: I cancelled my order yesterday
8-08: So If i get the 2.0 ENZO's
08-10: Finally getting my gear together.
08-10: I have made my decision and this is NOT going to change.
08-12: I think its going to come down to Ascend Sierra with RAAL, Phil 3's and Tekton eNZO for me.
08-14: Ordered my speakers today

Well can't wait for the review, good luck

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

OP: Timeline

7-25 : So I just ordered my pair of Tekton eNZO's
7-27: I was planning to get the enzo's but after hearing your thoughts I think I am gonna just settle for the LORE's instead
7-29: Well for what its worth I am gonna order my Tekton eNZO's tommorow along
7-30: Today I called to order
7-31: Just an update. I just spoke to Daniel at Tekton to finalize everything
7-31: Getting the 4.1 M-Lore line
8-04: I cancelled my order yesterday
8-08: So If i get the 2.0 ENZO's
08-10: Finally getting my gear together.
08-10: I have made my decision and this is NOT going to change.
08-12: I think its going to come down to Ascend Sierra with RAAL, Phil 3's and Tekton eNZO for me.
08-14: Ordered my speakers today

Well can't wait for the review, good luck

Thats hysterical.

Here's my timeline:

7/25 06:00 - I'm pondering the idea of buying Salon2.
7/25 14:00 - The UPS Freight truck is here.
7/25 14:30 - The Salon2 are hooked up. They sound great.