Tekton Enzo - The most inexpensive speakers that is in the league with high-end speaker

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Chu Gai

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Which means no warranty or even service in the US, right?
 
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SearchofSub

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No. Not all digital sources are compressed. That is just silly. Analog sources, like LPs, have a much more limited dynamic range than CDs. Consequently, in the past, it was common to dynamically compress recordings to put them on LPs.

Today, quite a lot of popular music is dynamically compressed to try to seem louder when played on radio and other such things, but there is no inherent compression with digital recordings.

You might want to read this:

Boston Audio Society - ABX Testing article

And:

Vinyl vs. CD - A Running Commentary - Parts 1 - 5 - Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity

The CD format is superb. Of course, many people imagine all sorts of nonsense about it, and also complain due to some CDs being poorly mastered. Putting garbage on a good format results in garbage, but that is not the fault of the format; it is because one has put garbage on it. The CD format itself is better than LP ever was.


How does 2.1 systems work? As far as I know, all sources are either recorded in 2.0 or 5.1. Thanks.
 
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templemaners

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If you were smart, you'd forget about the $200 speaker cables and Mundof caps and get a better receiver (one with decent room correction).

I'll leave my opinions on Tekton speakers out of it though.
 
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SearchofSub

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I'm going old school with room correction.
 
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ImcLoud

ImcLoud

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I think you just want to be different and that is great, but Ill tell you something, you are spending more money and getting less, If I remember your first posts correctly you wanted the most for your money... What you listed is fine and will make sound, but for what you are spending get much more... Ill bet if you A-B'd what you are buying with this...
Amazon.com: Energy Take Classic 5 Pack 5.0 Home Theater Speaker (Black): Electronics {good enough for budget HT you can find these on sale for $200
VTF-2 MK4 Subwoofer {love this sub}
YAMAHA HTR-7065 7.1 665-Watt A/V Receiver w/ AirPlay | Accessories4less {inexpensive avr with preouts}

the above equipment would be more impressive for movies than what is on your list for less money...

But I tried, good luck and I hope you like the Tektons, I like mine, I am curious why you would go with upgraded mlores over the full size lores, they are almost the same price...
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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I just went over to AVSforum to read the Pendragon thread and there are 3 owners reporting tweeter blow-outs with the Lores and the pendragons. But none of them states how hard they drove them.. A poster said the loudest he drove them was 105db and they were perfectly fine. In my home I dont plan to drive them above 75db so I think it'll be okay..


Someone should ask them how hard they drove them..
If I were you, I would be scared.... I would be very scared. :D

What's the point of having "high efficiency" speakers if you can't play > 105dB?

Heck, my low efficiency speakers can play 105dB without even breaking a sweat or a tweeter. :D
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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I have made my decision and this is NOT going to change. :D

1. Tekton M-Lore w/ Mundorf SIO upgrade. ($907.00)
2. Hsu VTF-2 MK4 ($600)
3. Neo-Morpheus speaker cables (pair) ($200)
4. Blue Jeans HDMI and subwoofer cable's. ($50)
5. 10 x 10 thick rug ($350.00)
3. Kenwood RA-5000 2.1 reciever. ($350)
Good. Then we can say that we told you so in about a month.... Or maybe 7 months ..... Or 7 years ...... whenever you actually get your speakers. :D

You can get Kimber Kable 10 Gauge cables for less than $200/PR.

Why spend $350 on a thick rug? :eek:

Why not put that money into an AVR or something else?

I would get the Rythmik LV12 sub for $598 shipped.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
If you were smart, you'd forget about the $200 speaker cables and Mundof caps and get a better receiver (one with decent room correction).

I'll leave my opinions on Tekton speakers out of it though.
Yeah, if he were sagacious, he would not buy any of the above, including the speakers and rugs. :D
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

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I have made my decision and this is NOT going to change. :D

For 2.1 HT/Music in a 13 x 13 x10 room.

1. Tekton M-Lore w/ Mundorf SIO upgrade. ($907.00)
2. Hsu VTF-2 MK4 ($600)
3. Neo-Morpheus speaker cables (pair) ($200)
4. Blue Jeans HDMI and subwoofer cable's. ($50)
5. 10 x 10 thick rug ($350.00)
3. Kenwood RA-5000 2.1 reciever. ($350)
I don't mean to offend you, but you, sir, are a certified, gullible bad decision maker. The part that dissapoints me is that, whereas others of your kind at least make these decisions because they were hit by placebo effect, you're just making those decisions because you believe other people who were hit by placebo effect. Worse yet, you have developed your own faulty logic to justify every decision, even though the fellas in this thread have been trying, trying, trying to tell you these things for your own good. You choose to doubt the people here, rather than people who claim magical differences after 300 hour "burn-ins" and these strange implications that earlier clipping of the waveform is somehow beneficial. You seem to believe that we don't like x or y because we haven't tried it, when in reality we specifically choose not to try x or y because it is fundamentally a waste of time and money - two massive biases which compromise the so-called opinions of those less critical of their own actions. And mind you - some of the people in this forum - guys like AcuDefTechGuy, Gene Dellsala, Irv Robinson, TLS Guy, have probably spent five or six digits on their systems over the years (and fuzz seems to be getting there while unemployed), yet they are by far more credible as decision-makers than you in a fraction of that budget. Sit on that for just a moment.

My advice to you was whole-ly ignored, and instead i've skimmed through drivel about electronics systems being akin to flora - at that point my facepalming was not satisfactory; and I contemplated head-desking.

Good riddance to you. You will get your just deserts, and undoubtably you'll fall into the long endless black hole known as audio nervosa, rather than Aim for the top! you'll convince yourself that mediocrity is as fine as it gets. I hope you can fund the audio nervosa hobby.
 
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templemaners

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Yeah, if he were sagacious, he would not buy any of the above, including the speakers and rugs. :D
To be fair, the subwoofer he picked and using Blue Jeans cables are fine. The rug is neither here nor there.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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SearchofSub, I have to agree with every word of GranteedEVs post, and if you value your hard earned cash you need to listen and not be pig headed.

I'm really tired of this and the previous post that has given lots of oxygen to a lunatic who thinks he can make decent speakers out of cheap paper coned drivers with crude corrugated surrounds, crossover to small domed tweeters and call it audio nirvana.

In the case of your M-Lores that 8" driver sells retail for under $60. It starts breaking up and misbehaving before 1000 Hz. All of those types of surrounds do nothing to damp edge reflections of the cone, and all speakers of that type have a lumpy bumpy response.

They will not make it to the point of safe crossover to a small dome. So the fact there are reports of tweeter burn out do not surprise me, I would expect it.

I think the only reason these speakers have any traction at all, is that they have a balance to pro speakers used at live concerts. These types of pro speakers have all of the vices these Tektons will have and are pretty much universally lousy speakers.

So the only reason I can see for buying those speakers, is to get the same lousy sound as on offer at live venues, and far too many cinemas.

Paying money for upgraded Mundorf caps, is a waste of money for any speaker, let alone those. "Funny" expensive wire is always money flushed down the toilet without exception. So you have found two ways to do the same thing as burning money.

If you don't want to change your mind, please stop trolling this forum and go back to your cave.

I advise the mods to lock this thread now. I bet I'm not the only one fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense.
 
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AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I've done some questionable and imprudent things in this hobby over the years - and still probably doing it.

But, if I were still buying the Tekton + Mundorf caps + $350 rug + 200 wires, etc, after what everyone has said on AH & AVS, then god save me because that's just something beyond. :eek:

Truly sad. :D
 
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Jimz711

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I'm not going to repeat what anyone else has posted here, but let me say I basically read all new posts in the loudspeaker category except this thread. If I weren't bored while cooking, I wouldn't have read it now.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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I don't mean to offend you, but you, sir, are a certified, gullible bad decision maker. The part that dissapoints me is that, whereas others of your kind at least make these decisions because they were hit by placebo effect, you're just making those decisions because you believe other people who were hit by placebo effect. Worse yet, you have developed your own faulty logic to justify every decision, even though the fellas in this thread have been trying, trying, trying to tell you these things for your own good. You choose to doubt the people here, rather than people who claim magical differences after 300 hour "burn-ins" and these strange implications that earlier clipping of the waveform is somehow beneficial. You seem to believe that we don't like x or y because we haven't tried it, when in reality we specifically choose not to try x or y because it is fundamentally a waste of time and money - two massive biases which compromise the so-called opinions of those less critical of their own actions. And mind you - some of the people in this forum - guys like AcuDefTechGuy, Gene Dellsala, Irv Robinson, TLS Guy, have probably spent five or six digits on their systems over the years (and fuzz seems to be getting there while unemployed), yet they are by far more credible as decision-makers than you in a fraction of that budget. Sit on that for just a moment.

My advice to you was whole-ly ignored, and instead i've skimmed through drivel about electronics systems being akin to flora - at that point my facepalming was not satisfactory; and I contemplated head-desking.

Good riddance to you. You will get your just deserts, and undoubtably you'll fall into the long endless black hole known as audio nervosa, rather than Aim for the top! you'll convince yourself that mediocrity is as fine as it gets. I hope you can fund the audio nervosa hobby.
The OP reminds me of this one time when I was a little kid playing in a park one day. I saw this guy driving a car through the grass in idle speed and inexorably heading straight for a concrete wall and creek. I saw this happening in almost slow motion (idle speed) and there was utterly nothing I could have done to stop it. It was horrible.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Has there ever been a case when all of us have tried adamantly and unequivocally to dissuade another member from buying something this egregious before? :D
 
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