Surround distance (changed title)

[peuga]

i tried pro-logic II 7.1 from a 5.1 source
it sounded like poop, but it also sounded quite a bit fuller

i'm suspecting it's due to the shitty sony HT in a box speakers i used for SBs
i'm getting the B&Ws dm604 for front stage
and maybe if i use the JBL HT1F bookshelf, as, SL, SR, CB, it would sound better
i heard a back center doesn't sound good, but i can put it really, like, reeeeeeeealy back there, so it doesn't sound so localized
do you guys think that would work
(asking cause that would require me re arrenging my living room

 

[lovinthehd]

ProLogic II only upmixes to 5.1. You mean ProLogic II x or z ?

 

[peuga]

ProLogic II only upmixes to 5.1. You mean ProLogic II x or z ?

what, humn, what are pro logic II x and Y, all i did was turn on logic pro II to movie or music, and they were active, tho, it might be something like multi stereo, but only for the surrounds

 

[lovinthehd]

What receiver/processor do you have? Pro Logic II only provided for upmixing up to 5.1, Pro Logic II x provided for up to 7.1 (z indicated it could do rear surrounds and/or front heights). I wouldn't worry about using a single rear surround if that works better for you....

 

[peuga]

sony da9000es

those are all the icons that can show up, i read the manual, and i don't see any mention of pro logic II X

 

[peuga]

also, how is one supposed to play EX formats for 6.1, i got a few 6.1 movies, but iirc, nor my tv nor my blu ray player support that via optical or coaxial

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah that unit is probably just before they came out with the x/z version of ProLogicII. I think you do have the option of 6.1 and 7.1 if it's native content, not for upmixing from 5.1. I'd have to read your manual but that's my guess.

 

[peuga]

Yeah that unit is probably just before they came out with the x/z version of ProLogicII. I think you do have the option of 6.1 and 7.1 if it's native content, not for upmixing from 5.1. I'd have to read your manual but that's my guess.

I have no 7.1 input tho, only s/dif and analog 5.1 for surround

 

[peuga]

It seems i can have 6.1 as in digital EX and dts ES, but i got no idea on how to get that to work

 

[lovinthehd]

I have no 7.1 input tho, only s/dif and analog 5.1 for surround

Looking at a diagram of the back of the unit, it does have 7.1 analog multich inputs, so you'd need a player with 6.1/7.1 analog outputs to use that....

 

[peuga]

Looking at a diagram of the back of the unit, it does have 7.1 analog multich inputs, so you'd need a player with 6.1/7.1 analog outputs to use that....

Now that you mention it, you're right

 

[peuga]

That kinda sucks

 

[peuga]

What about DTS ES and digital ex?

 

[lovinthehd]

You're not missing much really. 5.1 is quite good on its own. Rather than upmix to 7.1 I sometimes just do the 5.1 myself, depends on the mix. DTS ES and Digital EX are 6.1 formats IIRC. Maybe this helps https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-dts-es-1846890

 

[peuga]

You're not missing much really. 5.1 is quite good on its own. Rather than upmix to 7.1 I sometimes just do the 5.1 myself, depends on the mix. DTS ES and Digital EX are 6.1 formats IIRC. Maybe this helps https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-dts-es-1846890

I mean to say, how are they delivered

 

[peuga]

I mean to say, how are they delivered

Is DTS ES matrix not a good option?

 

[Trebdp83]

 

[peuga]

Can I force it to matrix stuff to the back channel, instead of reallying on a flag that will never come, since my tv only supports dd

 

[Trebdp83]

Yup

 

[peuga]

Should that do it?