SUBS: svs PB10NSD vs hsu VTF-1

[roger259]

My room measurements are 13 x 29 x 9. I have 5 Paradigm: 2 monitor bookshelves, 1 center, and 2 atoms. Which sub would you choose? Is a 10" sub sufficient for this room size?

 

[mazersteven]

My room measurements are 13 x 29 x 9. I have 5 Paradigm: 2 monitor bookshelves, 1 center, and 2 atoms. Which sub would you choose? Is a 10" sub sufficient for this room size?

Your best bet is to ask the professionals at SVS, and HSU. I would say no those subs will not be sufficient for that room. That is a lot of volume to fill.

sales@svsound.com

sales@hsuresearch.com

 

[j_garcia]

The VTF-1 can't compete with the PB-10. You'd need to step up to the VTF-2 to get a closer comparison. That is a large room, I'd probably be looking at a 12" sub (which the VTF-2 is).

 

[roger259]

It's interesting that the SVS PB-10 has 300 watts power vs. HSU VTF-2 MK-3 12" has 250 watts power. Should I go with more watts or larger sub?

 

[mazersteven]

It's interesting that the SVS PB-10 has 300 watts power vs. HSU VTF-2 MK-3 12" has 250 watts power. Should I go with more watts or larger sub?

There are a lot of things that contribute to a subwoofers performance. So just because a subwoofers amp has more watts doesn't make it better. Just because the subwoofers driver is larger doesn't make it better.

A combination of all things, amp, driver, cabinet, crossover, ports, and size, will contribute to the overall performance of a subwoofer.

Look at the Definitive Technology Supercube 1.

The Supercubes dimensions 14-1/4" W x 14-1/4" D x 14-1/10" H. It had a 1500 watt amplifier. And has a 10" driver. $1200

Then look at the SVS SB12-Plus

Very close to the same size of the Def Tech (15” deep x 14" wide x 14 " high). But only has a 425 watt amplifier, But has a larger 12" driver. $699

 

[roger259]

Final pairing question: Which one of the two is better for 65% movies and 35% music: The SVS PB12 NSD or The HSU VTF-2 MK3? Both 12". HSU is $100 cheaper.

 

[Gimpy Ric]

Final pairing question: Which one of the two is better for 65% movies and 35% music: The SVS PB12 NSD or The HSU VTF-2 MK3? Both 12". HSU is $100 cheaper.

You have a very large room. I have the top of the line Hsu, and have owned the following subs:

M&K MX-200 - In Use
Infinity PS-12 - Gave To friend as X-mas Present
Velodyne 8" MicroVee 1000 watt sealed. Returned to CC
Hsu Research VTF-3 HO Turbo - Used all day and night in Man Cave v2 (my bedroom system in sig)

I recommend the Hsu Research VTF-3 MK3 10% off right now. Buy the Turbo for exceptional DEEP BASS!! The subs are also very musical.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-3-mk3.html - $629.00

Good Luck!

 

[j_garcia]

I think the PB-12 and the VTF-2 Mk3 are going to be too close to call, so I'd lean toward the less expensive one.

I owned the PB-10 and original VTF-2 (10") and both were excellent subs.

 

[Ron Temple]

I think the PB-12 and the VTF-2 Mk3 are going to be too close to call, so I'd lean toward the less expensive one.

I owned the PB-10 and original VTF-2 (10") and both were excellent subs.

Here's a link to Illka's numbers comparing a bunch of subs...looks like the PB12NSD has been improved...

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/55184-post141.html

 

[Warpdrv]

Was there a strict budget to follow here...?
I would certainly step up to at least a 12" sub for that size room....

If you can swing PB12-Plus, I think you would be extremely happy with the output there... SVS has some overstock on those units...

http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-plus1.cfm
B-Stock units with a slightly damaged PB12-nsd
https://svsound.com/store/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=12

 

[roger259]

Does anyone know if the PB12 or the VTF-2 is more musical than the other one; or, is it a coin toss?

 

[Warpdrv]

Hey roger... Musical is a myth... read this... http://www.audiopulse.com/know-how/subwoofer-driver-guide/myths-about-subwoofers/

A good quality driver and/or sub design is what your looking for.