Subs in the back of the room

[itschris]

I just posted about 4 times... should have posted all in one. But check out the pics above if you skipped over my blathering. I'd like get your guy's opinions on placement options. I'm sure you'll think of stuff that I haven't even considered.

 

[Adam]

You know, Gene lives about 20 minutes or so from me. I need to bribe him with some BBQ or a night out for sushi and get him to come over.

Really?!? Dude, you should so that! With your smoker and your pool...you should be golden.

 

[Adam]

You mentioned that your wife probably wouldn't want a black subwoofer box next to her glass items. Okay, then. How about a glass subwoofer box?

 

[moreira85]

back of room

ItsChris,

I don't think the placement of the sub is as important as other speakers; back of the room should work well.

A question, have you definitely selected Emotiva and definitely decided on dual subs. Is it a size consideration ? The SVS is still my favorite sub line and if the have the space a SVS PB13-Ultra would be awesome
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm .

SVS also offers some cylinder subs that might fit better if space is an issue:
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl.cfm

Good Luck,

MidCow2

I moved my SVS to the back of the room and it sounded so terrible, it was really boomy and i couldnt calibrate it because i had to turn it up so high in order to get it to 75db. i ended up moving it back to the front right. However it could of just been the acoustics in my terrible little basement room.

 

[mazersteven]

I never even thought about that. I'm assuming it would be more of a really tight hard hitting punch as opposed to a booooom... correct? I like that much better anyway.

Talk with Majorloser more about the Mid-Bass Modules. He has one, and loves it.

 

[speakerman39]

Chris, I have my twins in the back part of my room directly behind my love-seat. The cool thing is, the bass sounds like it is coming from the front of the room, but you surely can feel it resulting in a free back massage at times. However, my room is very small and confined. I agree, the subs in the rear of your room should sound fine. Sometimes though, things can sound a bit boomy depending on how they are placed. Anyways, really like the color coordination of your room. The artwork is fabulous. Keep up the good work my friend.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[avaserfi]

Wanting superior bass performance seems to be a common problem for many people within this hobby. While many may have the initial instinct to purchase something to solve this problem it is not always the ideal solution. As Adam pointed out the ideal starting point would be measuring your systems low frequency response. While it is possible with pen, paper and test tones there is an easy, relatively inexpensive, method: Room EQ Wizard which is freeware that only requires registration at the hosting forum. If you choose to use this program it will accurately measure your low frequency response, presuming proper use, of course. Once these measurements have been attained it will be readily apparent what the issue is from an actual lack in your current system to the need for treatments, equalization and/or changes of placement.

Once you have done all of this you will finally be able to answer the question: How can I most effectively increase bass performance of my system? Rather than: What can I buy that might help increase bass performance within my system?

 

[Adam]

Once you have done all of this you will finally be able to answer the question: How can I most effectively increase bass performance of my system? Rather than: What can I buy that might help increase bass performance within my system?

Exactly! Well put, Andrew.

However, that approach doesn't quite scratch that itch for new subwoofers. Okay, it might in the end, but it requires a lot more work.

 

[mike c]

Once you have done all of this you will finally be able to answer the question: How can I most effectively increase bass performance of my system? Rather than: What can I buy that might help increase bass performance within my system?

why does it have to be OR when you can go with AND

i'm going for this Harman white paper conclusion:

 

[Adam]

5000 subs?!

Now THAT would scratch the itch. Oh, yeah. Right there. That's the spot.

 

[itschris]

5000 subs?!

Now THAT would scratch the itch. Oh, yeah. Right there. That's the spot.

You guys aren't helping me!

I'll be lucky if I can get one of the black boxes past the wife.

What about a coffee table posiition, what if I had them concealed in an automan?

 

[Adam]

Well, first (and for the last time) I'll again recommend what Andrew and I were saying - check out the response of your system in your room first.

Now, back to getting some new gear. Sure, a coffee table idea could work for you. Just keep in mind the wires that would need to run to that area of the room.

 

[itschris]

Well, first (and for the last time) I'll again recommend what Andrew and I were saying - check out the response of your system in your room first.

Now, back to getting some new gear. Sure, a coffee table idea could work for you. Just keep in mind the wires that would need to run to that area of the room.

I was think I could run cables under the rug and just poke a hole in it. I can't believe I'm actually saying that with a straight face, but I think it may work. I'm gonna check out the HSU sub again and figure out a way to get the room accurately checked out.

If I could do the automan thing, than one sub would work well and I could easily move up in quality since I don't need two of them.

 

[Adam]

Hey, Chris. Do you have access to the floor from below (say, from a basement)? If so, that's quite a bit easier. Even if you run the wire(s) under the carpet, you'll probably still be able to feel when you walk over them (or in your daughter's case, dance in front of the TV).

Another thing that you could consider are in-wall subs.

 

[itschris]

Hey, Chris. Do you have access to the floor from below (say, from a basement)? If so, that's quite a bit easier. Even if you run the wire(s) under the carpet, you'll probably still be able to feel when you walk over them (or in your daughter's case, dance in front of the TV).

Another thing that you could consider are in-wall subs.

Well, being Florida, if I were to have a basement, it'd be filled with seawater. We're pretty close to the Gulf. I'm totally jealouse of you guys who have basements by the way.

If you notice from the pics, there's only about a couple of feet from the edge of the couch to the where the current coffee table sits. The carpet we have there is actually pretty thick and shaggy. I'm sure you'd feel cable, but I don't see that as a major issue. I'll start thinking about this setup since I think it'll make the most sense. My only concern is having the sub so close, right in front of us. I've never been in that kind of setup and I just wonder if that would be a bit distracting.

 

[mazersteven]

Well, being Florida, if I were to have a basement, it'd be filled with seawater. We're pretty close to the Gulf. I'm totally jealouse of you guys who have basements by the way..

Run the cable up, and over from your attic. If you have a 6/12 pitch on your roof. Then you should have plenty of room to move about up there.

 

[Adam]

Run the cable up, and over from your attic. If you have a 6/12 pitch on your roof. Then you should have plenty of room to move about up there.

This DIY video from Audioholics (about 15 minutes long) is the first thing that came to mind when I saw this recommendation. Very informative, and it walks you through it. Yours will be a bit different because you'd be running wires down lower on the back wall, but the basics are the same. Heck, even if you're not planning on running wires through the attic, I still recommend it. Parts of it just cracked me up.

 

[ivseenbetter]

This DIY video from Audioholics (about 15 minutes long) is the first thing that came to mind when I saw this recommendation. Very informative, and it walks you through it. Yours will be a bit different because you'd be running wires down lower on the back wall, but the basics are the same. Heck, even if you're not planning on running wires through the attic, I still recommend it. Parts of it just cracked me up.

I'm getting ready to run a bunch of wires and although that is how I pictured it would happen...it really helped to actually see it being done! Thanks for posting that. As soon as I get home to a working "Thanks" function I will give you your props. I know it was posted for Chris's sake but it really helped me out too. I have searched and read articles on that but I didn't know they have videos too! Sweet.

 

[jamie2112]

Run the cable up, and over from your attic. If you have a 6/12 pitch on your roof. Then you should have plenty of room to move about up there.

Don't feel bad Chris when I got my B&Ws I had to live on the roof for a whole month........It wasn't that bad except I had to eat at an angle, and going to the Bathroom might present it's self a little trouble but hey we are MEN and audio is important ....right....

 

[Adam]

I'm getting ready to run a bunch of wires and although that is how I pictured it would happen...it really helped to actually see it being done! Thanks for posting that. As soon as I get home to a working "Thanks" function I will give you your props. I know it was posted for Chris's sake but it really helped me out too. I have searched and read articles on that but I didn't know they have videos too! Sweet.

Hey, thanks! Glad it helped. That's such a great video.

The real kudos go to Clint and Tom (and whoever else was involved). They did all the hard work...well, maybe not Tom. Ahem, I mean, "Mr. President."