Static in speakers.

mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Redbone said:
Hold the phone I think I may have isolated the problem. Awhile back I took some tweak advice I read somewhere and it said to buff the power cable connectors with steel wool, I did this as well but went one step further and treated them with Cage Pro-Gold. The sound seemed more dynamic after I did this to all my components Receiver, DVD player, TV and cable box. I also did it to the Monster HT850 power strip. I think that is around the time I bought the sub and noticed the popping in the speakers. I think I might have super enhanced the electricla connection allowing the smallest noise to come through. Make sense to any one??

One thing the crackle and pop is definately worse at night 6- 10pm and definately worse some times than others. Some times that crackle/ pop is loud and makes you jump out of your seat. So it is not consistent, lately it seems to be getting worse.

Buffing the prongs with steel wool is a good idea, takes off any resistive agents on it. Not sure what that liquid stuff does. It may be a thin film that is not conductive enough and causes breakdown noise?
It will certainly not make it super conductive and enhance the noise. Now it may be on the oulet plugs too :(

You may want to go back and use that steel wool and get that junk off the prongs, all of them.

What else you failed to tell us? :D
 
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Redbone

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Well from what I hear Caig Pro Gold isn't junk :D it is supposed to greatly enhance any electrical connection. I think it has the ability to greatly magnify line noise thus the line noise that was in the system already is know 10x. This is just my hypothesis though.

I still have to swap out the receiver, I am very curious because I have heard about line noise and ground looping issues with the new NAD receivers. I need to locate a receiver though.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Redbone said:
Well from what I hear Caig Pro Gold isn't junk :D it is supposed to greatly enhance any electrical connection. I think it has the ability to greatly magnify line noise thus the line noise that was in the system already is know 10x. This is just my hypothesis though.

I still have to swap out the receiver, I am very curious because I have heard about line noise and ground looping issues with the new NAD receivers. I need to locate a receiver though.

Well, just between you and me, no one else is reading ;)
give up that Pro Gold mythos ;) it aint greatly amplifying anything.

Try to get a different brand of receiver to try and see if plugging it into different house outlets by extension cord will c hange anything if you strill have the static.
 
howie85

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Ok time for me to jump in. Thanks to the magical search button i found this thread and did not have to start a new one for the same thing. Since there have not been any recent posts here i need to get in and ask for any updates. I am having what appears to be the exact problem. I have a small fridge in my HT for at hand beverages etc and all was good until i added three 2channel amps to bi amp my system. After that i have the popping cracking noise which the first time i heard it i thought my rear spkr was falling off the wall. It is directly related to the fridge cycling off. My house is new and I had an two extra 20amp separate circuits run just for this room that are on their own breakers. Im running most items through MNSTR power center hts5000 all amps plugged into this unit. The only thing i have changed was my polk cs1000 center w/powered subs i plugged in a separate plug and i ran my cable connection to my sat reciever through the pwr center which was previously directly from the wall to the dish reciever. I think i will start by plugging the center back into one of the pwr centers plugs and then if that does not do it i will go back to dish rec direct to wall. I will post here with the results.
Curt
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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howie85 said:
Ok time for me to jump in. Thanks to the magical search button i found this thread and did not have to start a new one for the same thing. Since there have not been any recent posts here i need to get in and ask for any updates. I am having what appears to be the exact problem. I have a small fridge in my HT for at hand beverages etc and all was good until i added three 2channel amps to bi amp my system. After that i have the popping cracking noise which the first time i heard it i thought my rear spkr was falling off the wall. It is directly related to the fridge cycling off. My house is new and I had an two extra 20amp separate circuits run just for this room that are on their own breakers. Im running most items through MNSTR power center hts5000 all amps plugged into this unit. The only thing i have changed was my polk cs1000 center w/powered subs i plugged in a separate plug and i ran my cable connection to my sat reciever through the pwr center which was previously directly from the wall to the dish reciever. I think i will start by plugging the center back into one of the pwr centers plugs and then if that does not do it i will go back to dish rec direct to wall. I will post here with the results.
Curt
Before you do anything, try to unplug the sat TV to your receiver and see if you still have this problem. Second, you may want to try a temporaty extension cord for the fridge and plub it into a remote outlet in some other room, kithchen, bath, etc, not the room with the hi fi.
 
howie85

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ok, I plugged the center back into the power center and that seemed to diminish the noise, then i unscrewed the coax from the wall and when i did that i noted a spark?? then i unscrewed the coax from the output of the power center going up the the sat box and doing that i touched the connector to the power center and got a hi piched whine but very faint. Reconnected sat box directly to wall coax outlet and nothing so far but it was not every time i had to cycle the fridge a few times by leaving the door open and changing the t-stat and eventually i would get a noise. I now have to go back and watch another movie :rolleyes: and see if it does it again. ;) At this time the fridge is still in the same plug as it has been for the last year for now pending results. Thanks for the input Craft I will post with the results.
Curt
 
howie85

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Ok seems after a few hours of viewing i have not heard anything noteworthy. I have noticed a slight diffenence in the tv pic when watching sat especially on HD kinda like a slight fuzz around the edges of objects seems more noticable when they are moving. I had not been using the filter on the power center thinking it was b.s. but based on a review i read here it seemed there might be something to it, and there was. So what kind of filter can i get that will not cause that noise? Maybe a seperate unit only for the coax with nothing else attached? Thoughts? Thanks, Curt
 
howie85

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New update, I just heard a click in the spkers again. :eek: It is dramatically reduced to a slight click from what sounded like a cracking noise like something was breaking although it was not consistantly that loud so ??. It all started with the addition of external amps for bi amping and they are plugged into a pwr center that is almost completely full. I was thinking i might get another pwr center and spread the load a bit any thougts? Thanks, Curt
 
mtrycrafts

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howie85 said:
New update, I just heard a click in the spkers again. :eek: It is dramatically reduced to a slight click from what sounded like a cracking noise like something was breaking although it was not consistantly that loud so ??. It all started with the addition of external amps for bi amping and they are plugged into a pwr center that is almost completely full. I was thinking i might get another pwr center and spread the load a bit any thougts? Thanks, Curt

You may want to try this cable TV isolator. Go direct from the cable box into the TV, bypass your power strip. You have some sort of ground loop issue, common problem.
 
howie85

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I currently bypassing the pwr center of any coax connections. I only have pwr cords connected but I have amps plugged into sockets not labeled for amps? I called m---ter they suggest I might have created a load on the electrical system with the additional amps that is making the system more sensitive to voltage spikes from the fridge. I hate to loose at hand beverages grrrrr!!! My ht room is separated from the house and to get a different plug i would have to run a ext from outside the room and thats not gonna happen. Mstr suggested one of their voltage regulator systems..LOL somewhat spendy but if that is my only option? Off to experiment.

Ok i have to add something i left out :eek: try not to throw anything at me. When i installed the amps there was a gnd screw and instructions stated if noise is heard to grnd chassis. I just removed the grnd wires i added and will see if that does anything :rolleyes:
 
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Redbone

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My problem had to do with the lousy QC from NAD it was the receiver which had a host of other problems including screwy digital modes. Basicly the chasis or something in the receiver wasnt grounded properly. It was a first generation T753 unit, which as I have heard have this as a common problem.

I have tried an Arcam and an Integra receiver since I sent the NAD out for service and both have worked perfectly.

Howie before you go looking at the Monster power regulators look at the new Furmans- they are awesome for $1k and if I had the money I would buy one in a heartbeat. :D
 
howie85

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If this turns out to be the problem im feeling a little stupid :eek: . I was going to move the fridge and i noticed that my spkr wires had been pulled up under the fridge...doh!! I moved the wires and cycled the fridge a few times so far so good. Perhaps having unshielded speaker wire running directly under a electric motor is not a good thing?? LOL :rolleyes:
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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howie85 said:
If this turns out to be the problem im feeling a little stupid :eek: . I was going to move the fridge and i noticed that my spkr wires had been pulled up under the fridge...doh!! I moved the wires and cycled the fridge a few times so far so good. Perhaps having unshielded speaker wire running directly under a electric motor is not a good thing?? LOL :rolleyes:

It could be. If this solves it permanently, then you found the problem.
 
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