Speaker And Amp For My Jukebox

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chris050

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I AM BUILDING A DIGITAL JUKE BOX AND I AM LOOKING AT GETTING AN AMP ON EBAY TO BOOST THE SOUND FROM THE COMPUTER. I WILL ALSO NEEED SPEAKERS TO MATCH THE AMP BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING THE RIGTH COMMBINATION!! THE AMP SPECS ARE:
Power supply: 230Vac, 50Hz
Output power: 2 x 50-watt max
Impedance: 8 ohms
Input sensitivity (line): 500mV
Input sensitivity (mic - unbalanced): 2mV

WHAT DO YOU THINK???
 
Adam

Adam

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Welcome to the forum, Chris!

I don't want to assume anything, so I wanted to ask - do you live in a country that uses 230V for your power outlets?

A maximum rating of 50W isn't extremely high, but it's not too bad. If you'll be sitting at your computer with the speakers pretty close to you, then that should be more than enough power. If you want to get floorstanding speakers and crank loud music to fill a large room, then it might not be enough.

The impedance rating of 8 ohms might mean more than one thing. It might just be that the 50W output is measured at 8 ohms. It might also mean that the amp shouldn't be used on speakers that have a nominal impedance below 8 ohms. If it is the second thing, then that would limit your choices of speakers (you would still have plenty of speakers that you could choose from, but it's a consideration). Would you mind putting up a link to that amp on eBay? That way, we might be able to find some more info.
 
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chris050

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Welcome to the forum, Chris!

I don't want to assume anything, so I wanted to ask - do you live in a country that uses 230V for your power outlets?

A maximum rating of 50W isn't extremely high, but it's not too bad. If you'll be sitting at your computer with the speakers pretty close to you, then that should be more than enough power. If you want to get floorstanding speakers and crank loud music to fill a large room, then it might not be enough.

The impedance rating of 8 ohms might mean more than one thing. It might just be that the 50W output is measured at 8 ohms. It might also mean that the amp shouldn't be used on speakers that have a nominal impedance below 8 ohms. If it is the second thing, then that would limit your choices of speakers (you would still have plenty of speakers that you could choose from, but it's a consideration). Would you mind putting up a link to that amp on eBay? That way, we might be able to find some more info.
Thanks Adam,

power is 240v ( Australia ), I would like enough sound to fill a large room ( lounge or two car garage) and the jukebox is large enough to hold floor speakers, amp, comp and monitor internaly (just like a jukebox you would find in a bar or pub).

if It sounds like the amp will not be big enough could you suggest a good combiation.
 
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chris050

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Thanks Adam,

power is 240v ( Australia ), I would like enough sound to fill a large room ( lounge or two car garage) and the jukebox is large enough to hold floor speakers, amp, comp and monitor internaly (just like a jukebox you would find in a bar or pub).

if It sounds like the amp will not be big enough could you suggest a good combiation.
Adam, this forum will not allow me to post links unless i have 5 or more posting so bear with me and i will fix that problem! jus ignore the next few posts.
 
bandphan

bandphan

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If the computer is going to handel v/c and dsp,eq, ect duties- imo look into pro-audio speaker/s and amp....
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
If the computer is going to handel v/c and dsp,eq, ect duties- imo look into pro-audio speaker/s and amp....
Very good suggestion. Scott, would you (or someone else here) please list out some of your preferred options for Chris? He's new here and probably hasn't seen all of the regular recommendations. I recall two or three amps being the most popular, but I really don't pay too much attention to pro audio gear. Thanks!
 
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chris050

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If the computer is going to handel v/c and dsp,eq, ect duties- imo look into pro-audio speaker/s and amp....
Sorry guys.......... i dont know what v/c, dsq mean!!! all i know is the room in the jukebox has two chambers to house the speakers (left side and right side) and they measure 950mm(37.5in)H /200mm(8in)W /350mm(14in)D. Im not swiched on when is comes to electronics!! How many Watt and ohms ect for speakers and amp comb? Keeping in mind its only a two channel set up. I will be takeing the sound out of the computers sound card via the comp speaker plug (same as a small earphone plug) and pluging it in to the L/R RCA jack in the back of the amp/tunner( CDin or AUXin) with a adapter cable that go's from earplug type conection to L/R RCA..I was thinking of just getting an old two channel stereo tunner/amp with left and right, tone, bass and treb adjust and speakers from the 90s on ebay or something like that. ill get something new if i have to but i didnt want to spend too much and i didnt think you could get new two channel amps any more!!! ill have a look at pro-audio online now and ill get back to you..
 
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bandphan

bandphan

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Sorry guys.......... i dont know what v/c, dsq mean!!! all i know is the room in the jukebox has two chambers to house the speakers (left side and right side) and they measure 950mm(37.5in)H /200mm(8in)W /350mm(14in)D. Im not swiched on when is comes to electronics!! How many Watt and ohms ect for speakers and amp comb? Keeping in mind its only a two channel set up. I was thinking of just getting an old two channel stereo tunner/amp and speakers from the 90s on ebay or something like that. ill get something new if i have to but i didnt think you could get new two channel amps any more!!! ill have a look at pro-audio online now and ill get back to you..
Sorry, check zzsounds.com.. something like this that will play loud and has amp built in..

VC=volume control EQ= equalizer DSP= Digital Sound Processing
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Some notes that might help you in your search:

1. The higher the sensitivity (rated in dB) that a speaker has, the louder it will play given a certain power input. Short story - speakers with a sensitivity of 90dB will play louder with a certain amp than speakers with a sensitivity of 85dB.

2. The lower the impedance in ohms of a speaker, the more current an amplifier will need to supply to that speaker. Some amps are not built to handle the current draw of low impedance (e.g. 4 ohm) speakers, other amps won't have any problems with it at all.

3. The exact numbers are sometimes debated, but some say that it takes an increase in 10dB to have something sound twice as loud. What this means to you is that it takes 10 times as much power from an amp to make something twice as loud. Most of the time that you are listening to music, you are probably drawing less than 1W from your amp. It's the transient noises (like cymbal crashes and such) that pull large amounts of power for very short periods of time. The point is that a 100W/channel amp isn't going to be significantly louder than a 90W/channel amp just because of the power rating.

4. You can certainly still buy two-channel amplifiers. You can buy one-channel amplifiers, in fact (they are often called monoblocks).

5. You could also use a receiver (stereo receiver or A/V receiver) to power your speakers. Not a bad option, IMO, as you might already have one around that you aren't using, or you could buy one used (or even new for pretty cheap...at least in the USA).
 
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chris050

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Looked at pro-audio and its way too exp fpr me!!

would a public address system with AUX input,L/R adjust,bass/treb, ect do the job??
 
bandphan

bandphan

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FYI pro audio is inexpensive for what you get, the speaker i linked plays very loud and has 2 built in amps, for 279, running a mono output...thats cheap;)
 
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chris050

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FYI pro audio is inexpensive for what you get, the speaker i linked plays very loud and has 2 built in amps, for 279, running a mono output...thats cheap;)
Bandphan, could you please post the like to that page?
 
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chris050

Enthusiast
Some notes that might help you in your search:

1. The higher the sensitivity (rated in dB) that a speaker has, the louder it will play given a certain power input. Short story - speakers with a sensitivity of 90dB will play louder with a certain amp than speakers with a sensitivity of 85dB.

2. The lower the impedance in ohms of a speaker, the more current an amplifier will need to supply to that speaker. Some amps are not built to handle the current draw of low impedance (e.g. 4 ohm) speakers, other amps won't have any problems with it at all.

3. The exact numbers are sometimes debated, but some say that it takes an increase in 10dB to have something sound twice as loud. What this means to you is that it takes 10 times as much power from an amp to make something twice as loud. Most of the time that you are listening to music, you are probably drawing less than 1W from your amp. It's the transient noises (like cymbal crashes and such) that pull large amounts of power for very short periods of time. The point is that a 100W/channel amp isn't going to be significantly louder than a 90W/channel amp just because of the power rating.

4. You can certainly still buy two-channel amplifiers. You can buy one-channel amplifiers, in fact (they are often called monoblocks).

5. You could also use a receiver (stereo receiver or A/V receiver) to power your speakers. Not a bad option, IMO, as you might already have one around that you aren't using, or you could buy one used (or even new for pretty cheap...at least in the USA).
Thanks Adam, i actualy under stand what you mean (belive it or not!). if i were to go out right know and get somithing new or used ( keeping in mind the room is a two car garage and i want it to be loud but not overkill as i like to be able to crank out a few tunes without the speakers screeming for mercy) what would be a good stat? i.e sens rating, watts, ohms?
 
bandphan

bandphan

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Sorry, check zzsounds.com.. something like this that will play loud and has amp built in..

VC=volume control EQ= equalizer DSP= Digital Sound Processing
see the link, for the price you probably will not get anything that will play louder for the price(new);)
 
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chris050

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see the link, for the price you probably will not get anything that will play louder for the price(new);)
Sorry bandphan, i should of informed you that im in Australia!! i looked at the prices of the gear over here and they are much more exp! the Behringer B212A Powered Speaker (400 Watts, 1x12 in.) is $US275 and here its $AUS500!!!

I think ill be looking for just the standard floor standing stereo speakers and amp given the limited box width (each speaker box only 8in wide).
 
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