Lmao!!! Wheeee!!!!Oh Joy! Def Tech and B&W, all under one roof.
Maybe in the way DT fixed some of their more glaring issues in the Demand series release, perhaps this will get B&W to do something similar.
I won't hold my breath, though.
Never owned any DT or B&W but back in the day B&W speakers were HIGHLY respected. Thanks for the info...Oh Joy! Def Tech and B&W, all under one roof.
Maybe in the way DT fixed some of their more glaring issues in the Demand series release, perhaps this will get B&W to do something similar.
I won't hold my breath, though.
A friend of mine has the 800's. Like $22000 a pair. Powers them with Krell 700w Monoblocks. They are Sweet
They ARE highly respected. I would love to sit down with the 800 series just to have that experience.
If they're not for that kinda money you're just deranged.....
These are the measurements I got from my friends B & W 800 D3s.
Posted on Audioholics tooCause I know how many people on this forum love Bowers and Wilkins. I thought I'd put this out there.
Sound United completes acquisition of Bowers & Wilkins
Originally announced in June, the deal has now been completedwww.whathifi.com
Who owns Rotel now? If I remember right at one time they were with B&W, just wondering if United Sound would be acquiring them too if not already.Posted on Audioholics too
Bowers & Wilkins is Welcomed to the Sound United Family
Sound United LLC today announced that it has finalized the acquisition of Bowers & Wilkins. What does this mean for the brand? Read on as we speculate the future of this premium loudspeaker company.www.audioholics.com
Based on your plots, I know you are not going to disagree but I am sure your friend would benefit from Audyssey for the range up to 300 Hz, if he uses those speakers in his HT system as well. Even for music, it's worth a try..These are the measurements I got from my friends B & W 800 D3s.
The blue trace is on axis, and the black one out to 90 degrees, where there is a suck out at 1.8 KHz.
Waterfall plot.
Impedance and phase angles.
Any respectable amplifier should be able to drive those speakers.
As you would expect from those measurements the speakers sound excellent. So I would have to put them in the reference class. They are a significant improvement from the precious 800 line. My only criticism is that they seem to sound a little distressed at high power in the massive forte's. My speakers seem smoother and more relaxed when the going gets really rough.
In the early 1980s Rotel joined the B&W Group forming a strategic alliance with Bowers & Wilkins and later adding Classé Audio. The company was formed by Tomoki Tachikawa and is currently run by the Nephew, Peter Kao.
Thank you, so it was just "alliance..", their website don't tell much of that, if any..
He does not have Audyssey. His electronics are 100% Mac. In any event my measurements are quasi anechoic and like all of those are somewhat suspect below 200 Hz. The speakers sound fine and do not need Audyssey to much up the sound. I'm sorry but in any of my three systems if you engage any of Audyssey's Eq platforms, the downgrade in sound is huge and not at all subtle. Audyssey is doing some very bad things, which I strongly suspect are in the time domain. It is absolutely something that should never be used with really accurate speaker systems.
What about Polk and Boston Acoustics? They're part of Sound United, too.Oh Joy! Def Tech and B&W, all under one roof.
Maybe in the way DT fixed some of their more glaring issues in the Demand series release, perhaps this will get B&W to do something similar.
I won't hold my breath, though.
For what it's worth, here is a recent ASR review of a B&W 805S bookshelf speaker. This model is not a recent B&W product – it has the abandoned yellow Kevlar mid-woofer. It's performance, in the opinion of the reviewer, is less than stellar. I agree.
Any possibility that these were tested in free air? The boundaries created by being in bookshelves could reinforce the range where the dips occur.For what it's worth, here is a recent ASR review of a B&W 805S bookshelf speaker. This model is not a recent B&W product – it has the abandoned yellow Kevlar mid-woofer. It's performance, in the opinion of the reviewer, is less than stellar. I agree.
The high resolution acoustic measurements reveal the problems that plagued B&W's Kevlar driver, and their unreasonable insistence at crossing it over to the tweeter at such a high frequency.
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This is a review and detailed measurements of the B&W 805S Bookshelf speaker. It is on kind loan from a member. The 805S is discontinued but seems to draw on the same principals of their speakers so makes for a good test. Looks like the original cost was US $2,500. Despite being bookshelf...www.audiosciencereview.com
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(though their two older lines are mildly annoying with the perpetual questions about how much power they need to really open them up and get them to sing... or blossom... or whatever...).
