sony, should they live or die?

[Audioholics]

naisphoo: you are what we like to refer to in the professional world as an "unstable person".

Most of your posts have been deleted and you are banned for a week. Welcome to Audioholics. Cool off and then come back.

 

[jbrillo]

I know Sony may not make some of the greatest stuff, but I feel that they have their place in the market just like everyone else. I've had a few Sony products that met my needs & my budget. I've owned two Sony receivers, an STR-DE335 & a STR-DE875 for 6 and 4 yrs. respectively. They've served me well considering my budget when I purchased them. I've never had a problem with either one. I even own a Sony 51' WS rear projection HDTV. Imagine my horror when, after a couple of months of ownership, I discover Audioholics.com & read the wonderful article on the whole flickering nightmare. I bought my TV in the summer of 2003 & I think they must have fixed the problem as I have no problem with flickering on mine. Is Sony great? No. Do they deserve to die? No. They do, however, allow the average Joe like myself to at least experience some of the wonders of our digital world without going into debt.

 

[RJB]

naisphoo: you are what we like to refer to in the professional world as an "unstable person".

Most of your posts have been deleted and you are banned for a week. Welcome to Audioholics. Cool off and then come back.

Nice to see you are in the Holiday spirit...

 

[Audioholics]

Nice to see you are in the Holiday spirit...

Of course, that's why it's only a week. lol.

Hey, you should have seen some of the posts I deleted. If my filters weren't in place the thread would have been very un-kid-friendly.

 

[no man]

I dono if anyone still reads this thread but here goes...

Although i voted option one on my poll i must admit there are a few Sony products that i don't despise (about 3 thing...),

1) My sony dvd player
2) their largest tv...
3) My kickass Sony Ericsson W810i (i dont like the swivly W900... )

Hey, you should have seen some of the posts I deleted. If my filters weren't in place the thread would have been very un-kid-friendly.

- and thanks for deleting the not-so-kind posts that plagued this thread

 

[Tod]

Well, whatever their current attitude and business model is, you can't really deny that they have been just about the most influential company in history as far as bringing audio and visual products to the masses. Yes, there may have been more emphasis on the masses than the products, some of which are definitely lame. But it was them after all who first made it possible to bring music out of the home into the world. The Walkman/Discman was a great idea. And they have been leaders in display innovations as well. They've got a history that shouldn't be forgotten even if they don't measure up now. Maybe they'll come around...

 

[Sheep]

I like Sony TVs. I only own 1 sony product (TV) but just because they are not the best of the best (BTW, most of their products atleast work), doesn't mean they need to die.

Is there even a point to this thread other then who likes sony and who doesn't? By allowing this thread to live, anyone can make a "Do you hate ____" thread. Does this forum REALLY need that?

SheepStar
/no.

 

[davo]

I'm pretty sure the main thrust of the original post is about the delay of the PS3 for all PAL regions till april next year. All you NTSC people, which means North America and Japan, are still on schedule to get it in november.
Which means I have to read all the threads about how great the PS3 is for a couple of months before we get our hands on it down under. Booooo!!

On the up side, most of the bugs should be ironed out by then.

 

[ellover009]

I think they should live on, one thing is they have to change, they are a competitive company and withouth comptetition the consumer looses. The had enough balls to stick hdmi and blue ray in the ps3 even thou they are having difficulty. Nikon and canon were stuck in 6 and 8mp in theyr dslr, sony came with the alpha camera (konica minolta) and changed the sensor to 10mp and immage stabilization, well canon and nikon just changed theyr lineup to 10mp and the canon even added a sensor cleaning. In life you need the good and the bad.

 

[shokhead]

Sometimes they need to just jump on board or stay out of the way.

 

[Geno]

I've had many Sony products over the years, starting with a transistor radio in the late '50s. Most have been very good. There was a period of time when their stuff was the "sexiest" products out there, but in the last few years, they seem to have painfully lost their way. My last bad experience was with their last generation of PDAs. I had just unwrapped my $400 TH50 Clie when I read about their decision to abandon the market completely. Their Clies had been the most innovative PDAs out there, so it was a real kick in the teeth when they pulled the plug.
I don't think they should go away, just wake up & smell the coffee.

 

[corey]

Remember Sony's root kit?

I like Sony TVs. I only own 1 sony product (TV) but just because they are not the best of the best (BTW, most of their products atleast work), doesn't mean they need to die.

Is there even a point to this thread other then who likes sony and who doesn't? By allowing this thread to live, anyone can make a "Do you hate ____" thread. Does this forum REALLY need that?

SheepStar
/no.

I'm pretty sure the main thrust of the original post is about the delay of the PS3 for all PAL regions till april next year.

Has everyone already forgotten?? This poll is about Sony's root kit, that put hidden software on your PC that, besides interfering with CD burning, left you open to virus attacks.

Sony is the only major hardware maker that is supporting the studio's attack on the Supreme Court's "Fair Use" decision in the Betamax days.

So yes, they should change or die.

 

[Zer0beaT]

I used to love Sony.

My Dad only bought Sony products when I was growning up. We had Beta for most of my life, and it was a better quality product than VHS.

We always had a Sony TV (I still have one) and I think they made the best TV's.

Sony has always been innovative. They've invented alot of industry standard technologies, and invented many more that never got close to standardization.

Anyway, I used to think of Sony as a high-end company. It cost more, it had a better picture/sound/functionality, and there products looked cool and high-end.

But I think this company has gone way downhill, and has been really poorly managed, and their stock price shows it

It's obvious Sony is an arrogant company. Just think back to how many proprietary formats they've tried to push, most of them failing (and I used to think this unfortunate).

Fast forward and think about the Root Kit thing, BluRay, Memory Sticks, HDMI 1.3, the newly filed patent that would make video game rentals/used games/lending games to a friend a thing of the past.

The way Sony is trying its hardest to control formats and stop piracy is disturbing. The only people they're hurting is Sony, because they're treating their own customers like criminals and consumers aren't the unknowing sheep they used to be.

On top of this crap, Sony doesn't even make premium products anymore, yet they still charge the premium price in many cases.

They're no longer the gods of TV, portable audio, video recording etc. Pioneer, Panasonic, Sharp, Samsung etc have all come a LONG way and make great products these days and usually you get more bang for buck from these companies than with Sony. The Walkman is dead, SACD is dead (hey I appreciate some things from Sony still)CRT is dead. There's just too many other companies out there doing a great job adapting and pushing things forward and earning their mega-corporation bucks, I honestly think the consumer electronics world would be better off without Sony at this point. Perhaps we'd have a single high-def DVD format?

I think Sony was a great company, and they should be respected for their past, but they've clearly lost it completely, and should BluRay fail to reach mass-market sucess, they might be permanently screwed. I don't feel I'd be missing out on anything if Sony went out of business altogether.

 

[hogfan]

Sony should live but w/sanctions

I still have a PS-FL1 auto turntable (1981) that works as new, a cassette recorder that I hate. They are really talented but arrogant. My Walkman lasted longer than 3-headphones. My satellite receiver died after 14 months. DVD changer died after 16months. My last 4 sonys are all dead. I have probably bought my last from them.

 

[Vault 35]

SONY makes excellent AM/FM radios--yes, I said radio even in 2006. That's what they started out doing in the 1950s and they are still doing it and it is important. SONY also makes inexpensive and reliable DVD players--the simplest, single slot ones are the best for an audiophile on a tight budget. Multiple DVD/CD changers suck--too noisy...

In my curmudgeonist opinion, SONY should abandon trying to manufacture audio amplifiers / receivers at least. Their surround receivers sound like garbage and they are user-unfriendly. Beyond that, they should forget about total HTIBs, personal computers, and bookshelf systems.

How many of us have seen those grotesque SONY "bookshshelf" stereos in BEST BUY or Circuit City? What kind of human debris would place such monstrosities in their homes? The grotesquerie might be O.K. if the sound is acceptable but the sound isn't acceptable. It's just another switching amp claiming to be something it is not....

 

[videobruce]

Your poll choices could of been better.

To sum up:
Overated status symbol. Period! Most/many buy for the name to impress or think they will.

 

[shokhead]

Your poll choices could of been better.

To sum up:
Overated status symbol. Period! Most/many buy for the name to impress or think they will.

You could replace Sony with Bose and you would be saying the same thing.
Sony and Bose? Could it be a marriage made in haven?

 

[videobruce]

You mean Bose aren't the "one and only"??
Can't forget Monster Cables in the mix either.

 

[ggunnell]

My SXRD experience has caused me to cross off Sony as TV vendor.

 

[Wafflesomd]

By george they make one hell of a set of headphones (MDR-V6)