So I gotta ask, 104% tariffs on China?

TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
This is a thread on the audio implications of these tarriffs. Lets continue the political side of this conversation more in the steam thread if that's okay with you :).

I probably shouldnt have answered Lovins question on this thread I didn't mind the question it's just off topic of the thread. Sorry about that everyone.
Nonsense. These tariffs are all part of the same fascist campaign and I will oppose it on any forum were this vile man affects us all.

This vile Trump bloke needs opposing everywhere and every day.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Nonsense. These tariffs are all part of the same fascist campaign and I will oppose it on any forum were this vile man affects us all.

This vile Trump bloke needs opposing everywhere and every day.
Well I'm not willing to do that on this thread. I did start a conversation with you though. We could chat about it there if you like. Otherwise I have nothing further to say on an audio thread about this.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
Nonsense. These tariffs are all part of the same fascist campaign and I will oppose it on any forum were this vile man affects us all.

This vile Trump bloke needs opposing everywhere and every day.
No Doc, you're wrong. As Danzilla stated, we have 'The Steam Vent' for such, thus dragging everyone's political views into any and all audio discussion is counterproductive to the overall forum. What perhaps you fail to realize is, this is one of the few sites that actually allows such discussion as a subset topic to begin with.

So, for all your smarts and insightful contributions you should understand this ..........
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
No, it was just an opening of the relations door which had been shut due the commie thing, took the trade act of 74 to get that rolling. Believe 80 was first year of MFN status which was renewed yearly for 20 years until made permanent. Biggest objections I remember was over human rights issues.
And where is China WRT human rights now? I don't see anyone in Congress addressing it.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
No Doc, you're wrong. As Danzilla stated, we have 'The Steam Vent' for such, thus dragging everyone's political views into any and all audio discussion is counterproductive to the overall forum. What perhaps you fail to realize is, this is one of the few sites that actually allows such discussion as a subset topic to begin with.

So, for all your smarts and insightful contributions you should understand this ..........
I agree these tariffs will cause extreme trouble for our hobby. This will be especially true of speaker manufactures.

So, the best option will be DIY. Unfortunately there are virtually no good US drivers for DIY.

However, the UK look as if they are striking a deal, and the UK has a lot of good drivers some available from US online dealers.

Norway may come to a similar deal and they have a lot of excellent drivers available to the DIY builder.

DIY would be an excellent way of reducing the tariffs.

I could work up designs, with ready to go data to take to your local C & C cabinet maker. So you can get a pro cabinet. The you just have to get the drivers an build the crossover, which is not difficult.

So, this way people could get better speakers than they otherwise would not be able to afford.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I agree these tariffs will cause extreme trouble for our hobby. This will be especially true of speaker manufactures.

So, the best option will be DIY. Unfortunately there are virtually no good US drivers for DIY.

However, the UK look as if they are striking a deal, and the UK has a lot of good drivers some available from US online dealers.

Norway may come to a similar deal and they have a lot of excellent drivers available to the DIY builder.

DIY would be an excellent way of reducing the tariffs.

I could work up designs, with ready to go data to take to your local C & C cabinet maker. So you can get a pro cabinet. The you just have to get the drivers an build the crossover, which is not difficult.

So, this way people could get better speakers than they otherwise would not be able to afford.
Looks like I'm finally going to have to take your advice and become a DIY after all Doc :)
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
This is a thread on the audio implications of these tarriffs. Lets continue the political side of this conversation more in the steam thread if that's okay with you :).

I probably shouldnt have answered Lovins question on this thread I didn't mind the question it's just off topic of the thread. Sorry about that everyone.
Or just move it to the steam vent :)
 
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Hetfield

Audioholic Samurai
More confusion from this clown administration as there 245% tariffs on some Chinese products. No one knows what is tariffed and at what and what is exempt. This is a clown show and that is an insult to clowns.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Sure, don't answer the question. Don't point fingers without looking at others for the same accusations.
LOL what question? That the concerns for human rights take a back seat to cheaper goods? Certainly it wouldn't be a republican thing these days to protect human rights....
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
More confusion from this clown administration as there 245% tariffs on some Chinese products. No one knows what is tariffed and at what and what is exempt. This is a clown show and that is an insult to clowns.
Who knows what he he intends to do. It's pretty clear his real target is China.

His problem is there is no way China is going to back off because they do control a monopoly on the world market.

Who would willingly give up that monopoly without fighting to the bitter end. Especially when they got there because the whole world allowed them to. And they hold a lot of cards they can play against us.

You just can't keep retarrifing them if they don't do what you want. Sooner or later you got to sit down and try to work things out.

Tommorow important announcement!!!! Trump is raising tarriffs to 1 million percent on all Chinese goods! That's right 1 million!!! And if they don't comply within 48 hours then it's 1 billion percent!!!!! :rolleyes:
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be 'pay for your entire working life", it's supposed to be a start, originally for getting somoene up to speed so they can advance in a company (new hires don't neccesarily have ANY work exerience). But if you compare fast food work requirements with someone who's a cable TV installer as an example, the latter doesn't make much more than $20/hour to start at Spectrum and they, in theory, need to have some technical knowledge, or at least be able to learn it. In addition, some apects of cable/phone/internet installation require knowledge of the National Electrical Code because grounding is important and if they don't understand or complete the work properly, really bad things can happen. I knew someone who worked for McDonald's and after going to one of their places AND leaving because nobody wanted to take an order at the drive through when the place was empty, that was supposed to his next stop, to improve the operation. They couldn't attract people from the area, so they advertised higher wages and all that did was create a flood of workers with terrible job skills. Hard to make that job look attractive to high school kids whose 16th birthday gift might be a Mercedes, Lexus or other expensive item/trip, etc.

OTOH, paying installers more doesn't yield good results, either. This photo shows 'work' done by Spectrum and yes, it's more than one code violation. Every other installer andmanager from Spectrum said something similar to "Holy crap! Who did that?".
I don’t think any entry level jobs pay enough to survive it’s a tragedy. Imagine $14 a hour and only working 24 hours a week.
This is a thread on the audio implications of these tarriffs. Lets continue the political side of this conversation more in the steam thread if that's okay with you :).

I probably shouldnt have answered Lovins question on this thread I didn't mind the question it's just off topic of the thread. Sorry about that everyone.
I’m worried subwoofer prices are going to rise a lot . I need to upgrade one of my subs but I’m afraid to ask my parents if I can.
 
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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Who knows what he he intends to do. It's pretty clear his real target is China.

His problem is there is no way China is going to back off because they do control a monopoly on the world market.

Who would willingly give up that monopoly without fighting to the bitter end. Especially when they got there because the whole world allowed them to. And they hold a lot of cards they can play against us.

You just can't keep retarrifing them if they don't do what you want. Sooner or later you got to sit down and try to work things out.

Tommorow important announcement!!!! Trump is raising tarriffs to 1 million percent on all Chinese goods! That's right 1 million!!! And if they don't comply within 48 hours then it's 1 billion percent!!!!! :rolleyes:
Why, wouldn't the Chinese dictator trade love letters with the lunatic drumph? N.Korea found a way to his heart. Putin probably has some serious poop on him or he just likes sucking dictator coque.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Why, wouldn't the Chinese dictator trade love letters with the lunatic drumph? N.Korea found a way to his heart. Putin probably has some serious poop on him or he just likes sucking dictator coque.
Lovin I'm not sure I like your tone! I'm raising you to 2 trillion tarriffs!!!! Effective immediately!!!!!!! Make Audio Great Again!!!!!!!! :D
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I don’t think any entry level jobs pay enough to survive it’s a tragedy. Imagine $14 a hour and only working 24 hours a week.

I’m worried subwoofer prices are going to rise a lot . I need to upgrade one of my subs but I’m afraid to ask my parents if I can.
Id hit the used market if I were you also some of the good refurbished sites that have a good reputation like accessories for less
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Id hit the used market if I were you also some of the good refurbished sites that have a good reputation like accessories for less
I guess so my subs are old
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I guess so my subs are old
How big is your room can you give me dimensions? Also what are your goals with new subs. If it's a smaller room are you trying to hit 30 to 25hz. Or do you want 20 and below?

Infrasonics can be annoying to anyone your living with and you said it was for your bedroom right?

If you don't need infrasonics there are a lot of good options on the cheap and especially on the used market and refurb businesses
 

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