So earlier today I start typing...

Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
mulester7 said:
.....Buck, how was your canoe trip up 30-Pack River last night?.....
Rented Oceans 12. 30 minutes into the movie, I found myself passed out on the couch. Need to finish watching it this afternoon. From what I remember, it was a bizarre opening to a movie. Taco Hell was good though. Found myself - as you can imagine - on the throne a few times today from the lovely Spanish food. I was able to get in about two hours at the driving range and helped move a guy into a house yesterday, so beer wasn't the only culprit of the early turn in.

I'm working on the last 4 High Lifes left in the case. Must do another beer run and hide the evidence before the better half gets home and thinks I obliterated an entire 30 pack in 5 days. There goes the SD diet.
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....hahaha....haha....etc.....Buck, I think I'm working toward a system that will be my finest hour....slave amps everywhere.....mono center channel up high in the cathedral ceiling arch at both ends with either one or two XXXX XXX's....yeah, with XXX XXXX XXX XXXXXXXXXX......
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....Die Hard Yammy....I wnat two apahluhgizze jwon mohre tyme....that wasn't the real me, I promise....
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....I suspect a lot of you guys have been building your love of music for a long time....choirs and band in elementary or junior high schools usually beginning the journey....I opted for tenor trombone in the sixth grade, and switched to bass trombone in the 10th grade first year of high school....the high school program director and conductor of the main band, yeah, two bands, and they were large in count, anyhow, Mr. Brandon conducted high school clinics all over the South-Central and was in high demand for that function....we marched everyone in football season for a total of about 225 and that's a big program....I was in the main band all three years....I went on to the U of Arkansas system, UCA, (Central), and played in the band the whole time I was there until graduation....I was going with the prettiest majorette on Earth, haha, my third year of college and she was extremely accomplished on the alto clarinet.....she was an instrumental major and destined to be a shoe-in for the All-Conference band with rehearsals and concert in another town....folks, I had to think fast to be able to go with her, haha....I approached the university's band program/director/conductor, and asked Mr. Brown if there was a chance I could possibly entertain thoughts of being even last chair bass trombone in that band in the bass trombone section that always had at least three....he said he would see what he could do and told me my request was irregular with my not being an instrumental major....I said ok, sure....all the directors of about 10 branches of the U of A system got together and picked the honored band....the list of members chosen was posted on a bulletin board two weeks later in the lobby of the band complex at my school....I approached the list not knowing jack, and there on the list was my name in the bass trombone section....first chair....folks, I had to sit down for a few minutes and sip on a big orange fanning my face with a notebook...I walked to Mr. Brown's office and stood in the doorway staring at him with him staring back....he uttered the zenith compliment of my trombone playing career...."I thought about it, and you are a student at this university and a member of it's instrumental program, and in my opinion deserve the placement you received".........Folks, at that point, I was most luckiest there was another chair close and the orange was only half gone....upon graduation, I went on to play the bass trombone in the Arkansas Symphony for awhile, and the conductor brought in from Wisconsin was very demanding and I truly enjoyed that period with glorious strings now being brought into the picture....why in the World have I told you all this?....to maybe help you to trust me when I tell you what I am about to give you a link unto has magic in it....Erich Kunzel evidently demands more out of the Cincinnati Pops orchestra than other conductors demand out of some other orchestras....I notice a difference in the quick swells-to-cutoffs, attacks, and releases from this orchestra, which is what brings music to life....Erich surely has a pair of speakers, so this post qualifies for this board, haha....notice the used prices again....amazing CD with magic inside, I promise....not classical, either, patriotic stuff....with a pro choir on some selections....pro singers, trust me, I was a vocal major....the Christmas one by them I advised the other night, has a sweet spot about a minute into the first selection that makes the purchase worth it, IMMHO.....

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003CUB/qid=1113773472/sr=8-7/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i7_xgl15/002-7225902-3676841?v=glance&s=music&n=507846
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....Clint, make that a minute and 26 on the sweet spot....you know, on the Christmas one....first selection....if'n you don't agree, I'll place you in the category of the guy who claimed a report....what?....report about what you ask?....ahem....hmmmmm, it's now on the radar....interesting.....
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Mulie, I'm beginning to think you overly enjoy the sound of your own, uh, er, keyboard.
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....Rjbudz, sorry to offend....I post different places....mainly Raging Bull on a couple of stock boards....this board I found a week ago is about equipment I'm familiar with on some levels....equipment I love to buy to reproduce that which I truly love....music....after a week, the honeymoon's pretty much over and you will hear me less, I promise.....
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
No offense taken, Mulie. I was just holding up a little mirror for you.
 
Resident Loser

Resident Loser

Senior Audioholic
Re: R&R Ninja...

...first, thanks for your response and my apologies for my tardiness in reciprocating...now for a bit more background...

As stated in my previous posts, my comments are based on the 901-IIs, the last acoustic suspension models, and from what I am made to understand, they are the pick of the litter...even so...I added my half-octave EQ to achieve their present state. The newer model Bose EQs do seem to have a bit more adjustment possibilities, but I would hazard a guess that there are limits.

Yes, they could be considered "bookshelf" in the widest of applications, but employing them in such a manner really runs counter to the whole design application IMO(Strictly speaking the model 501s were truly floorstanders, I believe there the others subsequent to them, but their designations were, escape me). They(the 901s) must be placed within some fairly restrictive guidelines to perform as intended...I wound up building a half-wall in my house to supply the needed reflective surface for my rt. channel...talk about flyin' in the face of WAF! But some folks go for far more room alterations such a LEDE and/or rugs on walls and bass traps, etc. That addition/alteration, some reasonable manipulation of the room acoustics, via agreed upon "decorating" ideas AND the SAE EQ are what is responsible for the system sounding as good as it does...I think the pedestals are a must...so be forewarned.

I am partial to the black myself(on the current crop, at least) however my 30yr. olds have a nicely figured walnut veneer from a time when wood was wood, possibly old growth, not like the current crop of tree-farm turn-out...as a DIY woodworker I have seen the quality of wood products deteriorate and the prices skyrocket. Anywho, I keep 'em clean(normally with Endust sprayed on the cleaning cloth) and polished(very ocassionally with Minwax for dark wood) and they look like a million!

I do hope you get the opportunity to listen for yourself...good luck.

jimHJJ(...and again, thanx...)
 
Resident Loser

Resident Loser

Senior Audioholic
To mr. zipper...

...I'll make an assumption that part of your post was intended for me...It's difficult to tell with all the seemingly unrelated banter about...so in that light...

No, I'm not taking anything personal...I'm hardly defending BOSE...in fact, this past Saturday while visiting a local "warehouse-style" shopping club, I happened upon a display for a Bose 1-2-3 HTIB...while my better-half was going about her business I decided to play with the demo presentation and in the midst of it some fellow strolled over to take a gander. After a few minutes he opined "Bose IS the best, isn't it?"...to which I responded "Define best"...Well, after the standard yada, yada, yada, I explained to him that while I owned a few Bose products and they suited MY needs, there are any number of others who feel that Bose is overpriced, over-hyped, underperforming junk and further, that if his opinion is based simply on advertising slogans, without any real firsthand knowledge, he would do well to visit a hi-fi shop and listen for himself. I also explained the shortcomings re: potential upgrading (short of starting from scratch) and interfacing problems at the outset. The system does sound impressive...but...well, but.

I wasn't writing any off anyone as "...blithering idiots..." for any other reason than the lack of intelligent discourse and certainly not to make me "...feel better..." I really have no reason to inflate my self-esteem(note my moniker)I'm quite comfortable with myself, warts and all. I just wish all the Bose-bashing was based on real, first-hand experience, not merely jumping on the bandwagon of corporate condemnation and cheap shots. And I don't mean in a hi-fi(or lo-fi if you prefer)shop...unfortunately, I find myself in a position using some of the same type of rhetoric as do the wire-wackos...'ceptin' for the fact that I know wire is wire(and nothing can change that) and loudspeakers are a whole 'nother thing!

Before you write me off as some inexperienced aural virgin, prior to purchasing the 901s, I auditioned nearly all of their contemporaries, Advent, Allison, AR, Dynaco, Dahlquist, etc. there was something about the Bose design that intrigued me and the sound produced was unlike any of the others...so I went with my gut, again, 30yrs. ago...the DQ-10s were nice, but there was something that sounded "off" to me...it was only in later years I discovered the existence of the mirror-imaging mod and the improvement that it made...perhaps they would have been my choice if produced as modded...but still, they were a five-way design and all that crossover!!!

Insofar as my attitude re: the corporate suited swine, my displeasure with them is second to none...however this is hi-fi, a discretionary commodity at best and not something important like prescription drugs and such...

jimHJJ(...BTW, thanks for your response...)
 
zipper

zipper

Full Audioholic
I acknowledge that RL................sorry if I came across a bit harsh. I agree that hi-fi should be way down on the list of things to argue passionately about.............nothing life or death about it.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
In defense of BOSE, (and I tread on that line lightly), you can compare a few automobile companies to them. Two in particular are Mercedes and Jaguar. I am into automobiles probably moreso than A/V. If anyone ownes one of the two above mentioned vehicles, then can vouch for the roller coaster type satisfaction they get from these cars. On one hand, they supposedly have one of the "best" luxury cars on the market. On the other hand, they spend an average of 5 times a year in the shop and have some of the worst reliability records. Bose, as well as MB and Ford's Jaguar, all do a great job advertising the brand, and making them a highly respected name in the general public. Go any further than the unknowning public, especially online forums and monthly mags, and you'll find the same problems that plague Bose. These three companies are pure genius when it comes to advertising and pulling the wool over the publics' eyes. Only after making the purchase, do some realize what actually just took place.
 
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Die Hard Yammy

Junior Audioholic
Hey Clint! I don't mean to sound caddy or start a fire here so bare with me.

I, and I'm sure many others, take issue with someone who comes here to Audioholics, and posts (I counted) 29 times on a single thread. Not that there's a problem with posting that many times, if those posts add value to said topic.

When some of the posts are merely to ask how your weekind was, it is a clear attempt to accelerate your member status here on the forum.

NOW! It's not like I'm the most informative of posters, or even post that frequently. But when I do post, it pertains to the particular thread in one way or another, be it advice or an opinion. This is (I've noticed) how most of us here at Audioholics operate.


All I'm saying is that this forum is something which should be treated with respect and a level of maturity, after all we are all adults here (I'm sure I'm one of the youngest "23") we should be able to post like them.

I decided not to name names, I'm sure we all know who's quilty of excessive posting.
 
M

MarkOcena

Audioholic Intern
You're Not the Youngest, Die Hard

Sorry Yammy, I got you beat by 2 years. I know we could hang out now, I'm only one province down from ya! Anybody else around here from Winterpeg? (actually the weather great right now :cool: , compared for -40!)
 
Die Hard Yammy said:
I, and I'm sure many others, take issue with someone who comes here to Audioholics, and posts (I counted) 29 times on a single thread.
I think we banned the person you are speaking of for a week if you read above.
 
R

Red

Audioholic
I could be wrong....

Clint DeBoer said:
I think we banned the person you are speaking of for a week if you read above.
looks like you may have banned the wrong person :confused:
 
D

Die Hard Yammy

Junior Audioholic
It doesn't really matter who was banned, Clint has made an example that I think may wake some people up, and perhaps envoke some maturity!
 

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