slightly dissapointed

[Loxxa]

I've been reading threads here for a bit, and I find that there is alot of snobbery and elitism from some members, I just wanted to say that just because you're well off or rich and can afford lots of expensive **** doesn't give you the right to act like a snob. This isn't directed at anyone in particular nor is it meant in a malicious way, I enjoy posting here occasionally and reading, it's just funny how some users reluctantly share knowledge and advice. Everyone starts from the bottom with little experience and knowledge... it's easy to forget that. All that should matter is a general interest in the subject. Arrogance & sarcasm don't mix well, some would call that being a smart arse.

 

[stratman]

Hey Loxxa,

Welcome to Audioholics, everybody has an opinion, some are more vocal than others, don't be too dissapointed they're all a bunch of nice guys. As you hang around and become familiar you'll see what I'm talking about. Give the site a chance.

 

[Nomo]

Actually I've found there is less "snobbery" here than other sites I've been to.
Rich guys, yeah I suppose there are a few. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. Regardless, I haven't found the rich guys to be snobby in any way.
To the contrary, it seems they are the guys who have the expensive gear, or can should they choose to. Those are the guys I want to hear tell me whether the expensive stuff is worth is or not.
As the caveman said everybody has an opinion.

Again welcome.

 

[mike c]

sorry if I came out to be a snob with my post on your thread ...
was just trying to exaggerate my point so you'd realize that unless you place a subwoofer on the same shelf as your player, a bookshelf speaker will never have enough juice to rock the rack.

 

[racquetman]

I've been reading threads here for a bit, and I find that there is alot of snobbery and elitism from some members, I just wanted to say that just because you're well off or rich and can afford lots of expensive **** doesn't give you the right to act like a snob. This isn't directed at anyone in particular nor is it meant in a malicious way, I enjoy posting here occasionally and reading, it's just funny how some users reluctantly share knowledge and advice. Everyone starts from the bottom with little experience and knowledge... it's easy to forget that. All that should matter is a general interest in the subject. Arrogance & sarcasm don't mix well, some would call that being a smart arse.

Ya, you start at the bottom and get the crap kicked out of you for a while. After you take some lumps, you get a turn in the ***-kicking line and start doing some smackin' around yourself. It's the cycle of life (or A/V knowledge in this case). During the process you get some sweet scars, become slightly jaded, and accumulate vast amounts of barely useful knowledge that only 100 other people scattered around the globe care about. In short, you become an audioholic. Enjoy the ride!! It's half the fun.

 

[Tom Andry]

When I walk into a room, I like to make sure and insult as many of the occupants as possible. Generally I do this by making blanket unqualified statements about "some people" without specifying exactly who. That gives everyone the opportunity to wonder if they are one of the ones I'm talking about. I find it really helps people open up to me and hear what I have to say. They are much more willing to help me after a little stab in the back or gab to the gut. Oh, and I never use sarcasm. That would just be rude.

Oh, I hope everyone understands that this post is not meant in a malicious way. Cause saying that makes it true.

 

[highfihoney]

I've been reading threads here for a bit, and I find that there is alot of snobbery and elitism from some members, I just wanted to say that just because you're well off or rich and can afford lots of expensive **** doesn't give you the right to act like a snob.

I think your looking at the whole deal from the wrong perspective,audio is a funny thing,to some its cut & dried & to others its confusing but everybody has an opinion,you also have to realize that sometimes the things people write in their responses dont come off exactly how they meant it.

A member may write a response that looks on paper like it was meant to be sarcastic but if you had the same conversation with that member in person what looked to be scarcasm on paper may end up making better sense & not be sarcastic at all.

Posting on audio forums takes a while to get the flavor of how they work,like stratman said above,take a pill,chill out & have fun

No sarcasm intended

 

[Rowdy S13]

Im a rich *******, and damn proud of it

Sean

 

[Jack Hammer]

I've been reading threads here for a bit, and I find that there is alot of snobbery and elitism from some members, I just wanted to say that just because you're well off or rich and can afford lots of expensive **** doesn't give you the right to act like a snob. This isn't directed at anyone in particular nor is it meant in a malicious way, I enjoy posting here occasionally and reading, it's just funny how some users reluctantly share knowledge and advice. Everyone starts from the bottom with little experience and knowledge... it's easy to forget that. All that should matter is a general interest in the subject. Arrogance & sarcasm don't mix well, some would call that being a smart arse.

I'm not willing to take the time and read through your previous posts to see what replies may have given you this feeling. What I'll tell you is that in my experience here the regular members rarely act snobbish or elitist, unless they are Bose bashing. When that does occur is usually only when some one prods them with statements about the superior nature of inferior products.

The advice here is given freely and willingly to all visitors and new members and the group here will often help people fit equipment into their budget. Generally if people say something is junk it is because they have had bad personal experiences with that product or it has a known reputation for being junk. Not because it is beneath them. I have seen several recommendations for cheap speakers and subwoofers, especially for bedrooms. If members are trying to steer you into "better" equipment, it may be to prevent you from wasting money by buying something you will most likely be unhappy with or is a poor value for the cost.

Elite snobs would not commonly recommend $500 receivers or similar priced speaker sets. They would tell you to spend upwards of $10K for an entry level system and tell you that $1K power cords will make a huge difference in your listening experience. You won't find much of that here.

No one likes a whiner, so what ever's bothering you I say, "get over it." You are welcome in the community here, please avoid unfounded generalizations. You will find if you are civil you will generally be treated the same.

Jack

 

[majorloser]

"...alot of snobbery and elitism "

You must be talking about those damn tube amp guys again


(I got champagne tastes but a beer belly pocket )

 

[Sheep]

After you've been here for awhile, you get pretty jaded. You get tired of people that can't spell, or even make it so the sentence flows properly. You get tired of the same questions, and yell telling the member to use the search. You enter Whisky threads to drink away the pain.

Life goes on.

SheepStar

 

[Rob Babcock]

I'd say this place is antisnob. The brands in vogue here are pretty mainstream, Joe-Six-Pack compared to most other sites I know of. I can only think of a couple guys here with gear that costs a lot more than mine (that I know of), notably Sleestack who's got as much in his speakers as my whole rig. Otherwise there's a lot of guys with Yammy's, Denon's, Pioneers, Axiom speakers...pretty mainstream mass market gear.

More baffling is your assertion that people here don't want to share their knowledge eek: ). You can't shut most of these guys up! The only reluctance I ever have in sharing my "audio wisdom" is the sure knowledge that the more I learn the less I know. So much of this is opinion that I don't want to risk stating my views as fact.

 

[Wafflesomd]

Or..


You'll realize your the only one on an audio forum that doesn't own a single pair of speakers.

Headphones are my cup of tea.

 

[Loxxa]

Sorry Mike C i wasn't really talking about responses to me, but other threads I have browsed. I look at people asking for information and come away slightly annoyed when i read some responses. And I figure I must be looked at as a fool or something and the truth is, I don't make much money and whenever I buy anything to do with stereos it's because I come up on deals or bargains. I don't want to feel embarrassed that I don't have the money to buy new high-end gear, I personally don't see what's wrong with buying an amazing tape deck or CD player that came out 10-15 years ago. Part of the fun for me is descovering vintage gear never knowing what I'll find. Buying everying new coz I'm rich takes away some of the glory if you ask me...

But maybe it's just jealousy of what I see some people buying and what they know? Yes, that's probably what annoys me more lol

 

[Seth=L]

SI personally don't see what's wrong with buying an amazing tape deck or CD player that came out 10-15 years ago. Part of the fun for me is descovering vintage gear never knowing what I'll find. Buying everying new coz I'm rich takes away some of the glory if you ask me...

I have got nothing against old gear. I have got some old Magnavox CD players, 80's. I purchase most of my gear used, no snob in that. However, I do take great pride in the deals I get, SO WATCH OUT! Just kidding.

 

[MDS]

I don't want to feel embarrassed that I don't have the money to buy new high-end gear, I personally don't see what's wrong with buying an amazing tape deck or CD player that came out 10-15 years ago. Part of the fun for me is descovering vintage gear never knowing what I'll find. Buying everying new coz I'm rich takes away some of the glory if you ask me...

First, you should never feel embarrassed about what you spend or what you get enjoyment from. I for one will never look down on anyone because of how much money they have or don't have or what they choose to buy. I will tell you if I think it is a waste of money to 'repair' some old gear when you could replace it with something new for about the same cost.

I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I'm older now and things change, yet still things stay the same. I personally don't like to waste money - after all you don't get rich by spending your money.

You won't catch me spending $1600 on the new Yamaha receiver that was reviewed favorably here, no matter how good it is perceived to be. It's all about matching your needs and wants to your budget. That receiver would be in my budget, but I can get what I need for a whole lot less. Besides, it will be obsolete in a year or two (though stil perfectly functional). The law of diminishing returns kicks in rapidly with audio equipment. For half the price of the latest Yamaha (or others, not to single out Yamaha) you can get 90% or more of the features and be content with what you have.

Some people just enjoy always having the latest and greatest and some can actually afford it while many cannot. It's those that can't afford it but buy anyway that I worry about.

 

[mike c]

... It's those that can't afford it but buy anyway that I worry about.

cough cough cough

ouch

 

[Seth=L]

cough cough cough

ouch

Same here, I am a terrible person in this respect.

 

[Davemcc]

Arrogance & sarcasm don't mix well, some would call that being a smart arse.

I disagree. Arrogance and sarcasm are perfectly suitable companions.

(Now, some would call that being a smart arse.)

 

[warhummer]

Snobbery

I think if anything, this place tries to instill a sense of value in audio/video purchases and attempts to tear down the advertising hype so people who don't have $25K to spend on a system can get something that suits their needs/wants.

However, mention the word "BOSE" and the fangs come out. Judging by your most recent post in this forum, I take it you were put off by the Bose comments.