Silly ethernet cable question

ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Can you "split an Ethernet cable at the distal end?

When I ran the Ethernet cable to my AVR, I should have ran a second one to the PS3 as my wireless connection seems sketchy on the PS3(or something has made it very slow when surfing the net).

Since it is very difficult to do a second run, is there some type of adapter that I can split the end of the Ethernet cable and run it to two sources?
 
Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
Why not just run it through a small Ethernet hub?

EDIT: Dang.. GR beat me to it :D We must have posted at the same time.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
So that looks simple and inexpensive. So we are on the same page correct?

My Ethernet cable is going from my router, in my office- to the AVR in the living room. I want to use this same cable to split to my PS3.

The hub allows me to do this?

Any drawbacks on doing this?
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Ok excuse me for being an idiot when it comes to computers but I am trying to solve a few issues.

Can I have too many items running under one router? As time goes on and more gear is added, it seems like all my stuff is getting slower. You guys helped speed up my computer with a different OS, security and reformatting but now I wonder if you can have too much going on.

I have a basic wireless router that came with a AT&T ISP set up. Running out of it is my AVR, CPU, Laptop and PS3.

Is this an issue?
 
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Fenix

Audioholic
No, it should not be an issue. The routers can easily address 100+ devices on the network. The part where you start getting into trouble is bandwidth. Your network is only as fast as the slowest component. That would be your connection to your ISP. For me my ISP runs at 20 Mbps which works out to be 2.5 MBps (notice the difference, Mb-Mega bits, MB-Mega Bytes, 8 bits = 1 Byte)

Now your router most likely can do 100 MBps accross the network plugs, which means that all of your computers hooked to your router will be able to communicate and transfer at that speed, but when connected to the internet they all share whatever limited bandwidth you have there, so Inet may get slower as you have more devices trying to access it simultaneously (depends if you're just browsing, streaming movies, or playing games).

Within your router all of your computers will speak to each other quite quickly, but once you get a lot of them going things may slow down a bit with increased traffic. But you are not likely to experience that with a small home network like yours.

An example that I would like to share, is that when my wife and I first got our house we initially went with the cheapest package that our cable company offered for Inet which was 7 Mbps, and when I would be playing Diablo II online and my wife would be browsing pictures on the Inet I would get lagged out of my game quite often. Once I upgraded to the higher bandwidth I had no problems and was even able to have 2 computers on Diablo II while my wife was browsing pictures.

So, if you want to skip all of the stuff above, the short answer is Yes you will be fine and have no issues.
 
njedpx3

njedpx3

Audioholic General
Ok excuse me for being an idiot when it comes to computers but I am trying to solve a few issues.

Can I have too many items running under one router? As time goes on and more gear is added, it seems like all my stuff is getting slower. You guys helped speed up my computer with a different OS, security and reformatting but now I wonder if you can have too much going on.

I have a basic wireless routher than came with a AT&T ISP set up. Running out of it is my AVR, CPU, Laptop and PS3.

Is this an issue?
Hey Dawg,

(1) you are not an idiot as far as computers

and

(2) you have a great audio and HT perspective which more than makes up for any perceived deficiency in (1)

What speed of connection are you running ? (the upload speed will be the lower figure of the two, and then the download speed). You can actually connect a large number of devices through a router and wireless hub before you see degradation because you rarely try to perfrom two downloads simutaneously. However, it you are uploading and/or downloading large files and it seems slow (1) isolate to just perfroming ONE(1) download (usually up load is not the problem) and if that is slow you might consider upgrading the speed.


Peace and Serenity,

Forest Man
 
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GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
So that looks simple and inexpensive. So we are on the same page correct?

My Ethernet cable is going from my router, in my office- to the AVR in the living room. I want to use this same cable to split to my PS3.

The hub allows me to do this?

Any drawbacks on doing this?
No drawbacks, take the ethernet cable coming out of the wall and connect it to the switch/hub then connect all your gear to the remaing ports on the switch/hub, it doesn't matter what ports you connect the devices to, they are all the same. I have a 4 port gigabit wireless N router in my bedroom, and two 8 port gigabit switches in other rooms and most of the ports are filled up and everything runs flawlessly.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Ok here an idiot question to prove it.

How to I tell what speed of connection I am running?
Hey Dawg,

(1) you are not an idiot as far as computers

and

(2) you have a great audio and HT perspective which more than makes up for any perceived deficiency in (1)

What speed of connection are you running ? (the upload speed will be the lower figure of the two, and then the download speed). You can actually connect a large number of devices through a router and wireless hub before you see degradation because you rarely try to perfrom two downloads simutaneously. However, it you are uploading and/or downloading large files and it seems slow (1) isolate to just perfroming ONE(1) download (usually up load is not the problem) and if that is slow you might consider upgrading the speed.


Peace and Serenity,

Forest Man
 
M

MDS

Audioholic Spartan
My Ethernet cable is going from my router, in my office- to the AVR in the living room. I want to use this same cable to split to my PS3.

The hub allows me to do this?

Any drawbacks on doing this?
A hub is like a splitter. All devices connected to it will see every packet of data that comes by. Only the device to which the packet is addressed will take it off the wire while all others will drop it, but when you have a lot of devices connected to a simple hub, things can slow down because they are all sharing the same bandwidth.

A switch offers similar functionality but learns over time which wire is connected to which device and thus sends the packet only to the intended device and not all others connected to it like the hub.

If you have multiple devices that need to access the internet (via the router) and are located away from the router, then you need all of them connected to a switch and the switch connected to the router.
 
nibhaz

nibhaz

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ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

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Fenix

Audioholic
Yuck....

What type of internet connection are you running DSL? Cable? Satelite?

I'll have to post up my results when I get home, as I doubt that I'll be able to pull those sites up at work.

Ok, I tried and here is what I got at work:

1136 kbps down
132 kbps up
 
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ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
So I am way slow?

This is AT&T DSL, the next to the best package they offered.

What should I do? When I called them and told them of slow issues, they said they tested and everything is fine.
Yuck....

What type of internet connection are you running DSL? Cable? Satelite?

I'll have to post up my results when I get home, as I doubt that I'll be able to pull those sites up at work.

Ok, I tried and here is what I got at work:

1136 kbps down
132 kbps up
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
download 20.15 Mb/s
upload 2.05 Mb/s
Ping 20 ms



Now if I just knew what to do with it.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
How does one do a modem hack with say something like a time warner cable modem?
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
So I am way slow?

This is AT&T DSL, the next to the best package they offered.

What should I do? When I called them and told them of slow issues, they said they tested and everything is fine.
Yeah, that is quite slow, I would highly reccomend going with cable modem.
 

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