Silicon Image Releases First HDMI 1.3 Chips

[Audioholics]

<A href="http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/HDMI13siliconimagechips.php"><IMG style="WIDTH: 125px; HEIGHT: 35px" alt=[hdmilogo] hspace=10 src="http://www.audioholics.com/news/thumbs/hdmilogo_th.gif" align=left border=0></A>Silicon Image, Inc. today announced the world's first HDMI 1.3 transmitters and receivers, which will enable the next generation of DVD players and HDTVs to transmit and receive content in billions of colors. The VastLane SiI 9133, an advanced dual-input HDMI receiver, will enable HDTVs to display Deep Color content transmitted by a new generation of consumer products, such as the Sony PlayStation 3 and high-definition DVD players. The VastLane SiI 9134 transmitter may be integrated into HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc DVD players and recorders to transmit Deep Color content for the highest-quality image for the end consumer. The SiI 9134 also supports new high-bit rate audio formats.

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[ned]

Finally!!!!

 

[mikeyj92]

Is it safe to assume that initially a large portion of these will be slated for PS3 manufacturing needs over other products?

 

[jcPanny]

PS3 Chips

If I am reading this correctly, the HDMI 1.3 transmitter scheduled for use in the PS3 will go into production in October. That's cutting it close for millions of PS3s due out in November.

 

[ht_addict]

What about 1080p????

 

[goodman]

This is the breakthrough that will allow us to have high resolution audio and video simultaneously. Also, it appears as if some of you with earlier HDMI-equipped devices will be able to adapt them to HDMI 1.3. Unfortunately for me, all of my equipment is analog, including a projector (Sharp XV-9000U) and receiver (Denon AVR-5803) that I will not be replacing for several years. Still, you gotta start somewhere, so I'm gonna start with a Sony PS3!

 

[Audioholics]

What about 1080p?

Been around since HDMI 1.0... no reason to wait on that. Hey, is your signature long enough? Sheesh, it's taller than most of your posts!

 

[Mobius]

This is great news.

My HDTV has 2 v1.1 inputs so I am assuming that even if I had a HD-DVD (Blu-Ray, Cable Box etc...) that has v1.3 I would not be able to take advantage of the new color modes?

 

[Tawnos]

Now how much longer until we can see HDMI 1.3 units and a hi def DVD player that can use 1080p and lossless audio?

 

[Audioholics]

I would not be able to take advantage of the new color modes?

That is correct. HDMI 1.3 is going to be up to the manufacturers who will start first with high end products and trickle the technology down. Don't hold you breath on Deep Color making it to mid-fi anytime soon. That's a lot of work and the cable companies aren't even taking it seriously yet (in terms of pushing through all of that bandwidth and making sure the electronic cable EQ systems can handle it).

 

[gboehm]

1080p at 60Hz vs 1080i and 720p at 120Hz

From the press release:

"This lets them support Deep Color displays with video resolutions of up to 1080p at 60Hz and 36-bits per pixel color depth, matching the output of the PlayStation 3.

The higher bandwidth also lets the chips support the latest-generation of fast-refresh displays used for gaming and other demanding applications. The SiI 9133 and SiI 9134 will support resolutions of 1080i and 720p at 120Hz and 36-bits per pixel color depth, providing a crisper image with fast moving video. "

I have no idea what that means to be running at 120Hz vs 60Hz. Is there any real world impact of running at 60Hz for 1080P vs 120Hz for 1080i and 720p?

 

[HookedOnSound]

I'm staying on the bench...

Does anybody really believe we need this stuff?

I don't know about you but I find the new "standards" are becoming more frequent, almost to the point where the new technology lifecycles is almost outstripping the pace of product lifecycles.

It's hard for me to accept the "new standards" when they are becoming as disposable as the products they are selling. IMHO, the consumers (in general) will hesistate even more than ever to immerse themselves with new technologies and/or products.

Who's benefit is this really for? the consumer or the manufacturers?

 

[danjuvenile]

hdmi 1.3 compliant or capable????

OK so the PS3 has hdmi 1.3. But does that mean that it will actually stream dolby true hd and DTS Master??? All we know is that the hdmi transmitter on the ps3 is capable of streaming those formats! Doesn't mean that the rest of the hardware on board is also fully hdmi 1.3 compliant though. I'll believe it when I see (or hear) it!! I reckon this is good ol' sony marketing again.I can't find any literature saying that it will. SAme goes for all this Deep Color carry-on!! 36bit and 48 bit color would require new and compliant video processors on-board. And I know for a fact that nvidia has never designed a video chip that handles that color depth and probably won't for a while!! So this a fad really!! the ps3 almost certainly won't be able to render true "deep color" and I'll be surprised if it supports either DTS Master or Dolby True HD in their full glory!

 

[Tawnos]

Does anybody really believe we need this stuff?

Yes we need HDMI 1.3 to pass a 1080p video signal and lossless 5.1+ audio, simple.

 

[LEVESQUE]

If the HD player is doing the decoding and sending PCM, then all we need is HDMI 1.1.

HDMI 1.1 can support 8 channels of audio 96/24 or 2 channels of 192/24 (PCM).

No problem with 1080p60 also over HDMI 1.1. In fact, I'm using 1080p60 over HDMI 1.1 to my projector presently.

Everyting is filmed in 16 bit or less today, and there is nothing to record anything (film or video) in 48 bits.

 

[Tawnos]

If the HD player is doing the decoding and sending PCM,

And? Who said anything about the player doing the decoding?

I will say this one more time to drive it through your heads because you are not getting it, we need HDMI 1.3 in order to pass a 1080p video signal and a 5.1+ lossless audio signal over the same cable. End of story there is no other way around it.

 

[MAX661]

And? Who said anything about the player doing the decoding?

I will say this one more time to drive it through your heads because you are not getting it, we need HDMI 1.3 in order to pass a 1080p video signal and a 5.1+ lossless audio signal over the same cable. End of story there is no other way around it.

But why would you care where the decoding is being done? wheather it's in the player or the receiver the results are the same. So the hype around HDMI 1.3 for the new audio codecs is pointless. Also 1080p will travel through 1.1 at the same time.

Now dont get me wrong 1.3 does have some advantages, but as for what this arguement is concerning, 1.3 will make absolutely NO difference what so ever!

 

[Zer0beaT]

OK so the PS3 has hdmi 1.3. But does that mean that it will actually stream dolby true hd and DTS Master??? All we know is that the hdmi transmitter on the ps3 is capable of streaming those formats! Doesn't mean that the rest of the hardware on board is also fully hdmi 1.3 compliant though. I'll believe it when I see (or hear) it!! I reckon this is good ol' sony marketing again.I can't find any literature saying that it will. SAme goes for all this Deep Color carry-on!! 36bit and 48 bit color would require new and compliant video processors on-board. And I know for a fact that nvidia has never designed a video chip that handles that color depth and probably won't for a while!! So this a fad really!! the ps3 almost certainly won't be able to render true "deep color" and I'll be surprised if it supports either DTS Master or Dolby True HD in their full glory!

Sure it will. The PS3 will decode all this stuff with it's Cell processor. Which is one thing the Cell is actually good at. The external HDDVD player that's coming out for the Xbox 360 will use the triple core 3.2Ghz IBM chip to decode everything, the external drive will just send the 360 the info over USB 2.0 and the system will do the rest.

I highly doubt though that the PS3 will have multichannel outs, so that means the PS3 will require HDMI 1.3 for both the new DTS/DD HD and its SACD capabilities (which means few will be able to use it for the forseable future).

 

[Zer0beaT]

Does anybody really believe we need this stuff?

I don't know about you but I find the new "standards" are becoming more frequent, almost to the point where the new technology lifecycles is almost outstripping the pace of product lifecycles.

It's hard for me to accept the "new standards" when they are becoming as disposable as the products they are selling. IMHO, the consumers (in general) will hesistate even more than ever to immerse themselves with new technologies and/or products.

Who's benefit is this really for? the consumer or the manufacturers?

But....but....THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE PROMISE!!!! Really, we've got it all sorted, and now we can start to consider the dropping of HDTV prices!




Yep, it never ends. Component, DVI, VGA, HDMI, HDMI 1.3..........

 

[Tawnos]

But why would you care where the decoding is being done? wheather it's in the player or the receiver the results are the same.

The same? So all decoding chips and DAC's are the same? A $99 DVD player decodes the same as a multi thousand dollar processor such as a meridian, theta, or mcintosh? Who uses a DVD player now to decode the information and sends it as a PCM signal, no one so why would you do it with a hi def format?