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SithZedi

SithZedi

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Where does the current payments going to. The banks that are not sanctioned?
They didn't sanction all the Russian banks, just a set few. I would imagine that was done to keep the gas flowing to Europe without interruption amoung other items.
 
Trell

Trell

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Yes. And they are or were planning to decommission all their nuclear power plants.
France are planning new nuclear reactors along with portable nuclear power plants. They will take
years to build.

I wonder if Germany will change their position on nuclear power.

 
SithZedi

SithZedi

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France are planning new nuclear reactors along with portable nuclear power plants. They will take
years to build.

I wonder if Germany will change their position on nuclear power.

I think that is in the mix, at least the extension of the deadline for their closing.

This is a translation from an influential German blog Tichys Einblick, George Gafron on the Feb 27 session of the Bundestag.

"Anyone who followed the special session of the Bundestag on the overall situation after the Russian attack on Ukraine actually had to doubt whether they were really watching the right TV program. Was that really the Social Democratic Chancellor Olaf Scholz? Was it really the representatives of the Greens, who unanimously spoke out in favor of strengthening the Bundeswehr and immediately implementing the 2% target of the gross national product for defense? The tones on energy policy sounded just as if they were from another world. Almost everything suddenly seemed possible again.

"Not only is there to be a coal reserve, but also an end to dependence on Russian gas supplies through a broad diversification of energy supplies, including the export of large quantities of liquid gas. Yes, there is even talk of a completely new energy policy. The Germans experienced a situation as if a group of doctors had to tell a patient whom they had previously told about sunburn that it was skin cancer. The unity of the state-supporting parties in government and opposition was also surprising — what happened?

"Almost overnight, German politics was roused from its slumber. The freezing cold reality has descended on us all. In the last decades after the reunification of Germany, the desire for harmony and peaceful trade with the whole world increasingly became the driving force behind German politics. The truth was too uncomfortable to face. The development of aggressive and militant nationalism in nineteenth-century thought was simply ignored. What's more, there were always enough voices that showed understanding for the Kremlin's behavior and blamed the West itself for its escapades....

"Germany, in particular, did everything possible to slow down the integration of the new NATO members into the structures of the alliance. The consequences of this were decisions by the United States to conclude special agreements with Poland, Hungary and above all with the Baltic States. Only then did the Merkel government give in. And again it was Berlin that prevented Ukraine's admission to NATO at the NATO summit in Bucharest in 2008.

"The findings of their own intelligence services were simply ignored. The Federal Intelligence Service verifiably informed the Federal Chancellery again and again at certain intervals about the massive rearmament of the Russian army and the corresponding restructuring, which greatly expanded the attack possibilities of all branches of the armed forces. The same applies to the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution [Germany's domestic intelligence agency], which not only drew attention to the intensive increase in Russian espionage activities against the Federal Republic. All of these studies disappeared on the instructions of the Chancellor....

"Not to mention the state of the Bundeswehr. These days, the highest authority in the Bundeswehr had to openly admit that the country's army is currently not in a position to carry out its mandate under the Basic Law to defend the Federal Republic of Germany. In retrospect, how hollow must be the talk of more sovereignty and a say in the world from a country that is not even able to defend itself against third parties...

"The signpost for the near future has been set up. However, the path itself has yet to be actually trodden."
 
mtrycrafts

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... They will take years to build.

I wonder if Germany will change their position on nuclear power.

Yes, years if not decades.
Surely hope Germany will postpone the removal until there is a good replacement, again in decades.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

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wow....I wonder who's right....Chomsky or Lindsey

Warnings and opinions on NATO expansion from both sides of the ideological spectrum from 1999 on. Unfortunately, Western leaders thought otherwise and the reasons will become clear in time. Meanwhile the media will be on spin cycle as usual.

Lindsey can be a fool at times. He recently sent out a tweet calling for a "Brutus" to come forward in Russia to kill Putin. A US Senator. The fool obviously did not know how Brutus ended up.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

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The spending bill referred to in the article is the Ominbus bill which is loaded with the typical Big Government lard and not scheduled for discussion until next week. They bolted on the Ukrainian funds into it to make it easier to pass. Typical Schumer tactics. He is using the Ukr war to push his agenda and the media is covering for him. True colors indeed.

If he truly cares about getting aid to the Ukraine, he would recommend an immediate bill focusing exclusively on the Ukraine to get the funds ASAP. That would pass immediately and the Ukraine needs the aid now.
Can't argue with that.
 
highfigh

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Where does the current payments going to. The banks that are not sanctioned?
They were using SWIFT, but that has ended because Russia was excluded. I would be surprised if they didn't have secondary/tertiary accounts, but if the supply hasn't been cut, the payments could be put in a holding account, then Russia might be paid if they stop this BS. Deductions would be made to pay for damages.
 
Trell

Trell

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They were using SWIFT, but that has ended because Russia was excluded. I would be surprised if they didn't have secondary/tertiary accounts, but if the supply hasn't been cut, the payments could be put in a holding account, then Russia might be paid if they stop this BS. Deductions would be made to pay for damages.
Deduction for damages, or whatever you call it, can only be done according to law and not willy-nilly because one thinks that it ought to be so.
 
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Deduction for damages, or whatever you call it, can only be done according to law and not willy-nilly because one thinks that it ought to be so.
I'm sure they can use war crimes as a reason for this. If they use some lame excuse to not hold the money after his troops targeted civilian refugee convoys, there's a problem. I wouldn't call that 'willi-nilly'.
 
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highfigh

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Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.

Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.


As my Ukrainian friend has said, "I wouldn't trust him for a second".
 
GO-NAD!

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Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.

Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.


As my Ukrainian friend has said, "I wouldn't trust him for a second".
I.e. surrender. As I mentioned before, giving up Donetsk and Lugansk might provide Putin an off-ramp to save face, but they're asking Ukraine to essentially give him whatever he demands. They're offering nothing in exchange.

The west needs to tighten the screws on the Russian economy. It will cause some economic pain to us, but our countries aren't being pulverized.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

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I.e. surrender. As I mentioned before, giving up Donetsk and Lugansk might provide Putin an off-ramp to save face, but they're asking Ukraine to essentially give him whatever he demands. They're offering nothing in exchange.

The west needs to tighten the screws on the Russian economy. It will cause some economic pain to us, but our countries aren't being pulverized.
There is only one significant thing left to do and it is to stop buying Russian oil/gas. I can't be bothered to read all 40 pages of this thread, but probably this has already been discussed.
 
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Mr._Clark

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The United States Patent and Trademark Office has officially terminated it's relationship with the Russian Patent Office and the Eurasian Patent Organization. In the grand scheme of things, this is probably relatively minor. On the other hand, it's the first and only instance of this that I can recall in over 25 years of practice.

The trend for many years has generally been towards greater cooperation with regards to Intellectual Property (albeit with many bumps both large and small along the way). It's somewhat unusual for one government to just straight up give another government the middle finger.

>>>Per guidance issued by the U.S. Department of State, the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has terminated engagement with officials from Russia’s agency in charge of intellectual property, the Federal Service for Intellectual Property (commonly known as Rospatent), and with the Eurasian Patent Organization. Like so many, we are deeply saddened by the events unfolding in Ukraine. We hope for the restoration of peace and human dignity.<<<

 
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I.e. surrender. As I mentioned before, giving up Donetsk and Lugansk might provide Putin an off-ramp to save face, but they're asking Ukraine to essentially give him whatever he demands. They're offering nothing in exchange.

The west needs to tighten the screws on the Russian economy. It will cause some economic pain to us, but our countries aren't being pulverized.
WRT "They're offering nothing in exchange." and, he's blaming Ukraine.

As a paranoid person who trusts nobody, he would want that buffer between NATO and Russia but it's not a realistic demand in light of the past Russia/USSR aggression.

I have seen that Russian oil amounts to about 10% for the US- I'm sure we could make up the difference somewhere.......
 
mtrycrafts

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They were using SWIFT, but that has ended because Russia was excluded. I would be surprised if they didn't have secondary/tertiary accounts, but if the supply hasn't been cut, the payments could be put in a holding account, then Russia might be paid if they stop this BS. Deductions would be made to pay for damages.
Damages in Ukraine caused by their military? If so, there would not be anything left over, I would think.
And this latter step is what is needed.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Deduction for damages, or whatever you call it, can only be done according to law and not willy-nilly because one thinks that it ought to be so.
So, this would go to the international court in the Hauge? Money in limbo until decided? That may be ok as it will be in limbo for a while.
 
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