Pre main amplifier

[lovinthehd]

I was told in an earlier post that I could use my old Yamaha R-V503 and use its amplifier. Not sure how to input the RCA connectors from the ONKYO Zone B Line Out (to pre main amp). Not sure what input to use : CD, Phono, Tape etc. There is no pre amp in.

I think too much information in trying to convey my situation is letting this forum to think it is a more involved hookup. It is simple, simple matter.

I do not know of an inexpensive solution, nor how pre main amps need to be hooked up.

Yes, that was when I was under the impression you had simply zone speakers to power, not via that much more complicated whole home distribution "bird's nest" to borrow TLS' description. If you did just connect zone speakers directly easy to use the Yamaha as an amp. You could take the line outs from the Onkyo and into any of the analog inputs of the Yamaha to use the Yamaha as an integrated amp (or a pre-amp and power amp combo).

If it were a simple matter you wouldn't be asking, eh? Regular stereo/home theater installations are simpler. Being cheap may or may not work. Good luck.

 

[TLS Guy]

Yes, that was when I was under the impression you had simply zone speakers to power, not via that much more complicated whole home distribution "bird's nest" to borrow TLS' description. If you did just connect zone speakers directly easy to use the Yamaha as an amp. You could take the line outs from the Onkyo and into any of the analog inputs of the Yamaha to use the Yamaha as an integrated amp (or a pre-amp and power amp combo).

If it were a simple matter you wouldn't be asking, eh? Regular stereo/home theater installations are simpler. Being cheap may or may not work. Good luck.

This is the problem with this guy, he thinks a speaker connection is just a simple connection and it is not. Terminals are connected to loads, and in this whole house distribution system the possibilities are immense, and getting it wrong will be a huge mess. As you know these whole house systems are all over the map.

 

[everettT]

It must be a comprehension issue. My set up couldn't (to me) be simpler. and I am not an audio expert by any means.
Do not confuse my issue with hooking up to any multi room home theaters situation. These ceiling/outdoor speakers are simple 2 channel stereo, separate from anything. Not hooked up to anything. I simply have wall screw terminals to receive speaker wire from a simple stereo receiver. Use to work fine when first installed and using simple stereo receiver. I bought a home theater ONKYO and discovered becaise of 3.1 home theater output, the only way to hook up the stereo speakers was to use Zone B Line out (2 channel stereo). This line out is to go to a pre main amplifier. I have never had any dealings with this, only a regular A/V Receiver.

Looking for low-cost solution to increase speaker volume. This situation does not need $400+ pre amps. Not gong to hook up to anything else.

Attached are photos of SMC (Structured Media Cabinet) which is pretty simple.
SMC.jpg is whole unit. 1 = 4 port wired gateway 2= System Module 3=Cable/Internet router
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SMCSystemModule.jmpView attachment 72750 is close up of Ceiling/outdoor speaker hookup. Left connector goes to speaker screw wall terminals (received speaker wire from amp) The 6 right connectors go to individual ceiling or outdoor speakers (each has its own volume control in a wall plate).
Thanks for your input.

While each room may be stereo to you, it's what is called distributed audio. The old school way was to connect multiple speakers to a speaker selector/distribution switch and was wired to a single high power amplifier or sometimes a integrated amplifier, this being the simplest setup. I'd recommend having an AV company come in (since you have wiring in place) and update your setup to give you 1)more functionality and 2)more control. If that isn't something you're interested in you will need an AV product with a preamp output and a pro amp that has significant power to power all of your speakers at once without clipping. Each set of speakers when operated simultaneously will cause a drain on any amp and the furthest are likely to suffer the most.

As I said before a distribution amp would be your simplest fix and give you a little more flexibility then you currently have. This is an inexpensive example and you can find high quality ones on eBay all the time from companies like creation, b&k, Niles, etc.

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[Stormydog]

Here are the specs for my speakers. This may have the information you seek.

70 volt system??? nothing like that

 

[TLS Guy]

Here are the specs for my speakers. This may have the information you seek.

70 volt system??? nothing like that

From your picture I suspected that this was a complete system. If it does not work as is, it is broken. There are no parts and it needs scrapping. As I suspected it has and amp, and there is an impedance matching module. There are individual controls in each room.

As I have said, this is a complete system and totally proprietary. So it should work.

If you had given us full details at the beginning we would not have wasted a ton of time.

 

[lovinthehd]

Curious, you have two each of the speakers in ceilings for "stereo" or just one speaker? I had the idea you had single speakers in the ceilings (inside at least, the outside ones were stated as two speakers).