Polk Audio LSiM703, best bookshelf speakers in the WORLD!!!!

[brianedm]

The point of the original post was in a way a challenge! So bring it on everyone!!! Polk is the undisputed champ in the bookshelf speaker world. Unless of course someone, somewhere can dethrone it?

And of course in your eyes no one will ever disprove it because it's an impossible thing to prove or disprove either way.

 

[ridikas]

A little controversy never hurt anyone. It gets people to star discussing, which is always great and fun

 

[ridikas]

That's not true at all. If someone can show me a speaker, explain how it was engineered and made superior/unique, post some test data, etc. I would totally be up for discovering a new amazing bookshelf! I don't work for Polk, so I couldn't care less on which manufacturer is crowned. I just go by the facts

 

[Send Margaritas]

The point of the original post was in a way a challenge! So bring it on everyone!!! Polk is the undisputed champ in the bookshelf speaker world. Unless of course someone, somewhere can dethrone it?

I'm curious why that speaker was made bi-amp capable. To drive sales, or that 6.5" poly cone woofer?

 

[ridikas]

Polk Audio doesn't manufacture, or sell amplifiers...

 

[macddmac]

What's Ridikulas, is the put-on going here!!!!
Gene, or fill in the blank, is that you? (rolling on the floor laughing your a$$ off)

 

[Send Margaritas]

Polk Audio doesn't manufacture, or sell amplifiers...

No, but sometimes marketing in an organization influences design decisions. Have you ever heard talk of speaker manufacturers making speakers 'bright' or 'boomy' to stand out in a demo?

Using bi-amped speaker terminals may be intended by marketing to plant in the mind of the consumer that the modest bookshelf speaker performs like speakers that can truly use the bi-amp capability. From an engineering standpoint is it needed? Were the costs invested in the right areas?

I've never heard those speakers. But I'm doubtful there is such a thing as 'best' speaker, for folks have different tastes, and different rooms, as well.

You'll get a lot of skeptics on 'best'.

 

[dkane360]

A little controversy never hurt anyone.

LOL understatement of the century right there.

 

[ridikas]

Loudspeakers have nothing to do with one's room interference, or taste. Speakers cannot be judged as if they were paintings hanging in an arts museum.

Loudspeakers are engineered by engineers using real science, math, etc. 100% EVERYTHING in a loudspeaker can be measured. It leaves virtually no room for pseudo nonsense.

And of course I'm talking about respectable engineers/manufacturers like Harman, KEF, Polk, etc.

I'm not talking about the garage, or DIY nonsense where so called designers sprinkle pixie dust inside of the enclosures and tune their speakers by EAR, because they cannot afford a $50 Dayton microphone. LOL. Some of the stuff being sold by smaller businesses is 100% fraud. Yet they make tons of money and yes, rip you guys completely off. While big honest corporations are almost always seen as evil. Even though corporations like Harman-Sony-Pioneer are just some of the few who do actual tests and bring an affordable, yet amazing products for the consumers.

Some of these smaller companies should be reported for false advertising, fraud, etc. It boggles my mind.

 

[slipperybidness]

Loudspeakers have nothing to do with one's room interference, or taste. Speakers cannot be judged as if they were paintings hanging in an arts museum.

Loudspeakers are engineered by engineers using real science, math, etc. 100% EVERYTHING in a loudspeaker can be measured. It leaves virtually no room for pseudo nonsense.

And of course I'm talking about respectable engineers/manufacturers like Harman, KEF, Polk, etc.

I'm not talking about the garage, or DIY nonsense where so called designers sprinkle pixie dust inside of the enclosures and tune their speakers by EAR, because they cannot afford a $50 Dayton microphone. LOL. Some of the stuff being sold by smaller businesses is 100% fraud. Yet they make tons of money and yes, rip you guys completely off. While big honest corporations are almost always seen as evil. Even though corporations like Harman-Sony-Pioneer are just some of the few who do actual tests and bring an affordable, yet amazing products for the consumers.

Some of these smaller companies should be reported for false advertising, fraud, etc. It boggles my mind.

Sony is a terrible company. The only product that I would ever purchase from them is the Playstation (or the Walkman in my youth). I've had some of their products in the past, and I've learned my lesson.

Also, they have a local customer service call center and I had a friend that worked there. Their overall goal (admittedly they didn't quite come out and say it but it was understood) was to frustrate the customer to the point that they gave up and stopped calling.

 

[brianedm]

Loudspeakers have nothing to do with one's room interference, or taste. Speakers cannot be judged as if they were paintings hanging in an arts museum.

Loudspeakers are engineered by engineers using real science, math, etc. 100% EVERYTHING in a loudspeaker can be measured. It leaves virtually no room for pseudo nonsense.

And of course I'm talking about respectable engineers/manufacturers like Harman, KEF, Polk, etc.

I'm not talking about the garage, or DIY nonsense where so called designers sprinkle pixie dust inside of the enclosures and tune their speakers by EAR, because they cannot afford a $50 Dayton microphone. LOL. Some of the stuff being sold by smaller businesses is 100% fraud. Yet they make tons of money and yes, rip you guys completely off. While big honest corporations are almost always seen as evil. Even though corporations like Harman-Sony-Pioneer are just some of the few who do actual tests and bring an affordable, yet amazing products for the consumers.

Some of these smaller companies should be reported for false advertising, fraud, etc. It boggles my mind.

Thank god they aren't ripping you off. Nothing in the system gallery. Nothing in your signature. I've read a lot of your nonsense threads and don't recall ever seeing a mention of any equipment you've invested any of your actual money in. If you have posted any of this information elsewhere my apologies in advance.

 

[ridikas]

I've been doing tons of research and this might be the only speaker that might be able to compete with the Polks:

Hi-fi Speakers - R Series - Fact Sheets - Bookshelf - R300 - KEF International

KEF R300 Bookshelf Speaker Pair

On second thought, I can already see from here that they're not as good: http://www.hometheater.com/content/kef-r300-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures

The search continues...

 

[slipperybidness]

Loudspeakers have nothing to do with one's room interference, or taste. Speakers cannot be judged as if they were paintings hanging in an arts museum.

On the contrary, speakers MUST be judged by each individuals tastes. Measurements are useless if I'm not happy with the sound at the end of the day. Fact is, everyone's ears have different sensitivities to different frequencies and that changes differently for everyone over the years. I suppose you could say every person has a hard-wired equalizer in their ears. Also, you can't lose sight of the fact that the enjoyment is in the music itself, not the numbers on the speaker measurements. I would guess that maybe you haven't seen a whole lot of live shows, you seem to try to take a too clinical approach and apply flawed reasoning on top of that.

I will admit, the time for measurements is critical in the design and manufacturing phase of speakers.

The point that most of the real contributors to this forum are trying to make is: you come in with a bunch of subjective jibber-jabber, you aren't open to suggestions, and you don't add anything useful to the forum.

 

[fuzz092888]

Loudspeakers have nothing to do with one's room interference, or taste. Speakers cannot be judged as if they were paintings hanging in an arts museum.

Loudspeakers are engineered by engineers using real science, math, etc. 100% EVERYTHING in a loudspeaker can be measured. It leaves virtually no room for pseudo nonsense.

And of course I'm talking about respectable engineers/manufacturers like Harman, KEF, Polk, etc.

I'm not talking about the garage, or DIY nonsense where so called designers sprinkle pixie dust inside of the enclosures and tune their speakers by EAR, because they cannot afford a $50 Dayton microphone. LOL. Some of the stuff being sold by smaller businesses is 100% fraud. Yet they make tons of money and yes, rip you guys completely off. While big honest corporations are almost always seen as evil. Even though corporations like Harman-Sony-Pioneer are just some of the few who do actual tests and bring an affordable, yet amazing products for the consumers.

Some of these smaller companies should be reported for false advertising, fraud, etc. It boggles my mind.

Like Salk and Philharmonic?

 

[ridikas]

An individual's sound preference has absolutely nothing to do with picking the best performing bookshelf speaker in the world...

It's just that, an individual preference. In all honestly, it's completely meaningless

 

[ridikas]

Dennis Murphy is an amazing engineer. He uses 100% real acoustic/electric science. His speakers perform and sound great!

 

[slipperybidness]

An individual's sound preference has absolutely nothing to do with picking the best performing bookshelf speaker in the world...

It's just that, an individual preference. In all honestly, it's completely meaningless

BUT, your title did not say "The best PERFORMING speaker in the world", it said "The BEST speaker in the world"

 

[ridikas]

And that makes the title wrong how?

 

[slipperybidness]

And that makes the title wrong how?

Point is, you're being subjective, then say we can't be subjective. It's circular reasoning.

Just like that old THX argument where you contradict yourself.

 

[fuzz092888]

An individual's sound preference has absolutely nothing to do with picking the best performing bookshelf speaker in the world...

It's just that, an individual preference. In all honestly, it's completely meaningless

And yet, two nearly identical speakers, measurement wise, can sound very different. How a speaker sounds, in conjunction with measurements determines what makes the speaker the best for each person. That's all that really matters.

Dennis Murphy is an amazing engineer. He uses 100% real acoustic/electric science. His speakers perform and sound great!

And yet you've called Salk a garage company. Then you insult garage companies. Ergo, Salk speakers are garbage. Since Dennis is very involved with Salk and owns and designs Philharmonic Audio, they are garbage as well. See where blanket statements get you?