Pioneer VSX-9100tx receiver specs and advice

[Spiffyfast]

I emailed pioneer today, hopefully they get back to me soon, I wanna order something today darnit!!!!!

 

[Spiffyfast]

Well if thats any indication of customer sevice....

Got the email back from Pioneer, but first this is what I sent them.

Inquiry:I am planning on purchasing a new receiver and have a question
concerning the 9100tx and the 1015tx. From the stats I've seen they are almost
identical receivers. I've heard the 9100tx is Best Buy's
exclusive version of the 54tx, is this true? I have found it on
www.electronics-expo.com as well and they are listed as an authorized internet
retailer, if this is only a best buy exclusive
does it still retain it's warranty if purchased from Electronics Expo? Now I'm
still trying to figure out which is the "higher end" receiver, the 9100tx or the
1015tx? Thanks for all your help.

This is what they sent me about 6 hours later.

Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc. They ar eboth great receivers. Make sure to check pioneerelectronics.com for authorized dealers, I don't think that company is.


What the hell kind of response is that, they didn't answer a d*mn thing I asked them, and its their f*cking company they don't know who their authorized internet retailers are? It's on their own website http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/article/two/0,,2076_4121_73813286,00.html
last row, second from the right. I'm not understanding that, I would have been hapier about this response if they hadn't even sent it.

 

[rikmeister]

i have bought from electronics expo . great company. bought

my sony KDF55WF655 from them saved almost 1000.00 off BB and CC. They also offered no interest till 2007 on purchases over 399.00.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Spiffy,

I'm 95% sure the 9100 is the 54TX, and the 9300 is the 56TX. If you can swing it, try for the 9300 (56TX). Seems like the best bet for the money. 44.8 lbs! We know for a fact the 1015 is basically the 52TX. I always say but a little more than you can afford, because in 6 months, you are going to wish you did.

 

[macuserforlife]

NEW VSX-9100TX for $299 & VSX-9300TX for $649

This place claims that they are new and the USA warranty is included.

I have no cash but maybe someone else might want to chesk them out. I don't think I've seen the 9100 that cheap anywhere.

9100 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165517.htm

9300 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165518.htm

 

[Thunder18]

Spiffy,

I'm 95% sure the 9100 is the 54TX, and the 9300 is the 56TX. If you can swing it, try for the 9300 (56TX). Seems like the best bet for the money. 44.8 lbs! We know for a fact the 1015 is basically the 52TX. I always say but a little more than you can afford, because in 6 months, you are going to wish you did.

Good call Buckeyefan, but I do have a couple differences in mind. The only difference between the 9100, 1015 and 52Tx is that the 1015 has 3 component video inputs while the 9100 and 52TX both have 2. Also, only the 52TX and 9100 have the RS-232C(serial) connector for outputting the MCACC results to a PC. Now someone earlier said that Pioneer quoted the 9100's weight as 34lbs. The 1015 weighs 34lbs and 14 oz and the 52TX weighs 34.2lbs per Pioneer's website. All three have the same LCD learning remote, as well as the same button configuration on the front of the receivers themselves.

Now unless you need the 3 component video inputs I would choose the 9100 for it's AIR studios Tuning monitor designation. I did a google search for Air studios, it's a world renowned award winning recording studio that has done work for many well known artists as well as serving the sound needs of movie production companies.

The 9300 has the same labeling scheme on it's front as the 56TXi, but the 9300 does not have I.link(firewire) input/output. Pioneer lists the weight of the 56TXi as 44.8 lbs, same as the 9100. The 55TXi weighs 41.8 lbs and has I.link and the same labels on the front, but in different positions. Now, the 54TX has the same labeling scheme as the 56TXi and the 9300, weighs 39.7 lbs, but doesn't have the USB input of the 56TXi and the 9300.
However, here is my coup de grace...the 56TXi and the 9300 both have removeable power cords while the 9100, 1015, 52TX, 54TX and 55TXi do not. This leads me to believe that the power supplies are different between the two groups we have here.

I bet Pioneer's marketing department is laughing at us right now, watching us trying to decipher what they're doing! To them, all I can say is how about a VSX-9900TX, a cousin to the VSX59TXi for about half the price available at Best Buy with the same remote at the 56TXi(to save some money since the 59's rechargeable nearly full lcd learning remote costs about $400)! Maybe dump the USB, but keep the I.link...I don't know...sounds like a winner to me!

 

[Thunder18]

This place claims that they are new and the USA warranty is included.

I have no cash but maybe someone else might want to chesk them out. I don't think I've seen the 9100 that cheap anywhere.

9100 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165517.htm

9300 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165518.htm

Thanks for the info, but beware, they are not listed on Pioneers list of authorized vendors and Pioneer could refuse warranty service if they wanted to.

 

[rumble]

The 9100 is most likely another variant of the 52tx. I'm copying an earlier post from viperboy below:

I ended up buying a Pioneer 9100 over a 1015 because I wanted the better claimed fidelity from higher quality parts and "advanced MCACC". However, ALL the sites listing details for the 9100 are incorrect from Best Buy to Vanns to sellers on eBay. The 9100 is more of a 52tx(1014 internals/DSPs) with dual room capability, newer 1 line LCD remote and nice black/gold visuals. It is NOT a dumbed down 54tx with either 40 pound weight (actual weight just over 33 pounds) or advanced MCACC.

I don't need the dual room feature and would have preferred THX Select 2 and three component inputs on a 1015 for slightly less $$ - looks like it will go up for sale sooner than I thought even though I got a very low $429 shipped price

Hope this helps anyone else who can't seem to get straight details on the 9100

 

[Spiffyfast]

The 9100 is most likely another variant of the 52tx. I'm copying an earlier post from viperboy below:

I ended up buying a Pioneer 9100 over a 1015 because I wanted the better claimed fidelity from higher quality parts and "advanced MCACC". However, ALL the sites listing details for the 9100 are incorrect from Best Buy to Vanns to sellers on eBay. The 9100 is more of a 52tx(1014 internals/DSPs) with dual room capability, newer 1 line LCD remote and nice black/gold visuals. It is NOT a dumbed down 54tx with either 40 pound weight (actual weight just over 33 pounds) or advanced MCACC.

I don't need the dual room feature and would have preferred THX Select 2 and three component inputs on a 1015 for slightly less $$ - looks like it will go up for sale sooner than I thought even though I got a very low $429 shipped price

Hope this helps anyone else who can't seem to get straight details on the 9100

Thanks for the info, I think I'd rather have the 3 component inputs anyways, so I think the 1015tx is what I'm going to go with

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I bet Pioneer's marketing department is laughing at us right now, watching us trying to decipher what they're doing! To them, all I can say is how about a VSX-9900TX

Man, you sure did your homework on Pioneer. A+. I did a google search on your 9900TX and even checked Best Buy's website. Nothing. Are you kidding or does it really exist? Does BB have a different site for their new high end section?

 

[Spiffyfast]

Man, you sure did your homework on Pioneer. A+. I did a google search on your 9900TX and even checked Best Buy's website. Nothing. Are you kidding or does it really exist? Does BB have a different site for their new high end section?

i think he meant they should put one out, a rebadged 59txi, and call it the 9900tx to sell it at bestbuy

 

[Thunder18]

You're right Spiffyfast. Sorry Buckeyefan 1. I didn't mean to mislead you! I was merely suggesting that they continue their current marketing plan by introducing a cut rate 59TXi. Seems like a natural progression of their current strategy if you ask me

 

[rikmeister]

try magnolia hifi buckeye. they bought them out. that is where

they will market the high end. some stores will have a magnolia room added others will not.

 

[bman3]

This place claims that they are new and the USA warranty is included.

I have no cash but maybe someone else might want to chesk them out. I don't think I've seen the 9100 that cheap anywhere.

9100 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165517.htm

9300 here - http://www.mpsuperstore.com/closeouts/discr165518.htm

I just purchased from these guys - price is $299 and they are not an authorized dealer but the unit is brand new and I received it next day on UPS ground. It is up to Pioneer as to whether they woud honor the 2 year warranty so we will see - I bought a Mack warranty just to cover my bases. Great deal bottom line.

 

[jcPanny]

Lip Sync delay

Bman3,
Can you or other owners of the 9100 or 1015 report on the lip sync delay feature. I must have this feature on my next receiver because it will be used with a front projection system.

 

[Blundaar]

OOOOH. I have that? Guess I'l have to check it out (1015 owner).

 

[Thunder18]

I know you didn't ask but

The 9300 has audio sync delay as well. Page 62 of the owners manual.

 

[bman3]

Bman3,
Can you or other owners of the 9100 or 1015 report on the lip sync delay feature. I must have this feature on my next receiver because it will be used with a front projection system.

I am not sure on the lip sync delay - the system has THX Surround EX which I think incorporates this but I am no expert - I can say that I LOVE this unit though and it came highly recommended by several on this site.

 

[Thunder18]

Not exactly

Lip sync delay is a feature made necessary by the proliferation of non-crt displays. Basically, these new displays take longer to process the video than a normal crt display which can cause the audio to play before the video that goes along with it. Visualize old Kung-fu movies dubbed in English and you have a decent idea of what I'm talking about. The 9300 can delay the audio as much as 6.0 frames in 0.1 frame increments.

 

[rumble]

Bman3,
Can you or other owners of the 9100 or 1015 report on the lip sync delay feature. I must have this feature on my next receiver because it will be used with a front projection system.

The 1014/1015/9100 does not have lip sync delay.

I have heard that some people fiddle with the center channel speaker distance to compensate for this but I cannot confirm if this works.