Petition to ban political threads

[sts9fan]

I really think political threads should be banned. I don't think any one is going to be swayed either way so lets just talk audio and beer

 

[wilkenboy]

Keep it outta the forum, please.

Folks, as much as I enjoy the lively debate and discussion, its an A/V forum. Debates on politics and religion tend to polarize members, detract from my enjoyment, and clutter otherwise good info.

There are forums for these things. I'm pretty sure they rarely discuss the finer points of speaker break-in physics there.

~Josh

 

[Shadow_Ferret]

As much as I dislike political debates, no one is forcing you to read and participate in them.

 

[howie85]

You forgot to put
" I dont know"
"undecided?" and
"what is a politic?"
in the choices. Also your petition is biased to beer lovers. I think the ACLU will have to look into this matter........

 

[wilkenboy]

As much as I dislike political debates, no one is forcing you to read and participate in them.

Agreed, but when they clutter otherwise good threads they detract from the value of the forum.

If they are appropriately placed in a seperate section of the forum (such as the Steam Vent) that's fine I suppose, but I think what does on there will still polarize some forum members and discourage good A/V discussion in other sections. Good threads getting derailed into political / religious debates is annoying and should be stopped.

(edit: I think in general this forum does a good job of staying on track. I just don't want it to turn into the AVSforum. You can't get 10 posts into a topic before it gets derailed into some off-topic debate)

~Josh

 

[Sheep]

Add religion to that and you have my vote.

SheepStar

 

[sts9fan]

Well due to the fact that us Americans pretty much live in a theocracy I count all superstisious belifs as politics

 

[racquetman]

First we ban politics, then religion . . . then someone else comes along wanting to ban something else. Pretty soon the steam vent has a disclaimer on it a mile long saying what you can and can't talk about. Is that really what you guys want? Not that any of us has the power to make this happen any way.

It's the steam vent. It isn't cluttering up anything. It's pretty rare that there is any A/V talk in the steam vent, so explain to me what it is cluttering?! Also, as was said, no one is forcing you to read it!! Exercise some will power - resist the temptation. I know we all think we are experts on everything and that we have to chime in with comments saying how we are right and the other person is wrong, but try hard to resist.

I dislike the political threads as much as the next guy, especially when you get some idiot who's convinced he has all the answers and that everything he thinks is right. I try to add some humor and light-heartedness to these threads when possible, but someone always comes along, takes my comments the wrong way, and blows a gasket in the process.

Sts9fan, you seem a bit arrogant to me. You always chime into these threads like you know everything and you criticize anyone who doesn't agree with you. I know this behavior very well - I used to be the same way. Being on this forum has helped me to realize that there are many people out there with many opinions and plenty of people who have more knowledge on certain subjects than I. Of course maybe you just know everything - I doubt it though.

How about you don't decide what everybody else gets to talk about and we'll leave it at that.

 

[sts9fan]

Sts9fan, you seem a bit arrogant to me. You always chime into these threads like you know everything and you criticize anyone who doesn't agree with you. I know this behavior very well - I used to be the same way. Being on this forum has helped me to realize that there are many people out there with many opinions and plenty of people who have more knowledge on certain subjects than I. Of course maybe you just know everything - I doubt it though.

Actually I am VERY arrogant thanks for noticing!!

 

[racquetman]

Actually I am VERY arrogant thanks for noticing!!

Well, that makes two of us then .

 

[BMXTRIX]

I don't really see much in the way of political threads anywhere except the steam vent and even then they are just a bit of the stuff going on.

The most political stuff I see here is the discussion of what does and does not constitute snake oil and whether cables make a difference, etc.

Most of all - I just can't stand silly censorship. Hijackers disrupting threads constantly is worthy of having a person thrown off these forums... IMO. But, I'm not a moderator.

If off-topic threads are started in the wrong forums - then the moderators should be handling it.

If you (anyone) aren't happy being in the minority on opinion - or have nothing to say about a topic - then don't say it. Don't read it, close your browser, or simply stay out of the Steam Vent.

Frankly, there are so many of the same-ol' same-ol' discussions in the other forums that I often can use some good political or religious debate to keep me on my toes. Hopefully those who I am discussing it with do take what may be a differring opinion in good spirits and don't get carried away. But, there are always a few wackos out there.

And they can't always be me.

Can they?

 

[racquetman]

Frankly, there are so many of the same-ol' same-ol' discussions in the other forums that I often can use some good political or religious debate to keep me on my toes. Hopefully those who I am discussing it with do take what may be a differring opinion in good spirits and don't get carried away. But, there are always a few wackos out there.

I couldn't agree with you more. The steam vent offers some much needed variety. If you don't get all high and mighty and have some fun with it, you might enjoy the threads more.

 

[Tomorrow]

I really think political threads should be banned. I don't think any one is going to be swayed either way so lets just talk audio and beer

Do you also think that political 'signatures' should be banned from this forum? Hmmm? You seem to put yours everywhere.

Here's a thought for you, sts9. Why don't you use some of that self-proclaimed intelligence and arrogance and turn it into a positive action that results in some affirmative impact? Divisive, biased output from you only returns to you in the same form.

Critics are a dime a dozen and are generally useless in the scheme of things. You want things to be better? Always start with yourself.

 

[sts9fan]

Do you also think that political 'signatures' should be banned from this forum? Hmmm? You seem to put yours everywhere.

Here's a thought for you, sts9. Why don't you use some of that self-proclaimed intelligence and arrogance and turn it into a positive action that results in some affirmative impact? Divisive, biased output from you only returns to you in the same form.

Critics are a dime a dozen and are generally useless in the scheme of things. You want things to be better? Always start with yourself.

I would remove my signature if a rule was posted. Is it political? What issue does it address?? What do you mean I post it everywhere?? I don't get it you seem to post yours everywhere also. Now I must go find the thread where I discuss what I do to TRY and make a VERY small difference in the world.

 

[miklorsmith]

I thought the Intelligent Design Ruling thread was one of the most interesting I've seen anywhere. In all those posts, there was almost no flaming, despite the tremendous polarity of views. I was most impressed that it didn't crash and burn in a fireball of fury.

It gave me further appreciation for members here that I didn't know much about. If we were more inclined to be jerks, I might have a different opinion. As it stands, I'm voting to keep religion and politics.

 

[majorloser]

Isn't voting a form of democratic expression? Than by this tread alone you are contributing to the political environment you so hate

 

[majorloser]

Hijackers disrupting threads constantly is worthy of having a person thrown off these forums... IMO. But, I'm not a moderator.

Hey, we haven't talked about airplanes in awhile........how about it RJ?


If it wasn't for the political threads we would be able to keep our "Resident Highlander" abreast of the American political system.

EDIT: Oh, and BMXTRIX, you're not the only wacko. Some of us just hide it better......

 

[Leprkon]

the Steam Vent says "just about anything you'd like to talk about". So if I was to want to talk about a former President who did nothing but get laid, go to court, and play golf and wonders why he can't be on the list of "Great Presidents", I feel not only able, but obliged...

I just promise to keep it out of all the other topics !

 

[Hanse18]

When was the last time you heard a new, valid political point? It's the same stuff over and over. If people aren't sure about their beliefs, they probably aren't going to join the debate in the first place.

And statistics and information in general can be exploited so rediculously, the real truth is almost never known. Maybe we should start a post teaching a college statistics course, learn about SRS's, data exploitation, and all that other junk, and then have a discussion. Then the posts might actually accomplish something, instead of just going back and forth about how each other's information isn't correct.

It isn't my right to say whether or not political discussions should be allowed, but it is my belief that nothing is ever accomplished, hence my pro vote. I think it should just be an accepted rule, not something the moderators actually enforce, just an unwritten agreement.

 

[mike c]

In order of priority for discussion...
it would be Titties - Audio - Beer

nerds! who said we should limit discussion to Audio and Beer?