Part of the US constitution is useless, a sad joke, and needs changing

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/gun-smuggler-plea-deal-9.7159464

I realize that it's like talking to the wall, but once again, easy access to guns in the US is leading to more crime in Canada.

And again, if bad people were changed or incarcerated, the guns wouldn't have moved to Canada. PEOPLE commit crimes- why can't you accept that? Is it because acceptance would destroy your idyllic views?

The guy was a smuggler and someome died because of him- lock him up for being an accessory to murder, don't set him free. No plea deal should be allowed for a turd like this.

 

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We've been conditioned to accept the stupidity of cheaper to dispose than build for the long term....

But as soon as people saw that they could buy imports for less money than American goods, any thoughts and ideas of 'Buy American' or 'Buy Union-made' flew out the window. I have posted about a guy who worked for Harley Davidson who drove a Toyota pickup in the mid-'70s with a 'Buy Union' bumper sticker- People hated Japanese imports in the post-WWII period, but soldiers brought a lot of foreign-made products back when they served. That led to companies like Sony making more for the US lmarket and when their pocket radios became popular, the typical complaint was "It doesn't fit in my pocket". Pockets then became larger. Once that happend, Sony became huge.

Stores used to sell products at whatever price people would pay, then the prices were lowered as a way to beat the competing stores and it wa onloy a matter of time before laws were written to prevent selling below dealer cost. Soon, quality dropped......

Money is a great motivator and people want things. Want, want, want leads to cheap crap that doesn't last long.

A good example reared its ugly head last night- we have had heavy rain for three days and because the ground freezes during Winter, drainage at this time of year isn't great. We're also required to have a sump pump in our basement and when I went to do laundry, I checked the sump crock- it was almost full and the pump I had bought last August wasn't doing anything. The previous pump went far beyond the call of duty the year I had installed it and lasted from early 2010 until it failed last year. The new one? 8 freaking months. The store no longer carries the brand that made the one I had before. I didn't buy a cheap pump, I just wanted one that would work but because "It will be replaced if it stops working" is the policy, it doesn't help if water backs up in a basement. Fortunately, the one I bought in 2010 had a lifetime warranty and the store gave me a replacement, which I had on a shelf.

I hate cheap crap!

 

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And again, if bad people were changed or incarcerated, the guns wouldn't have moved to Canada. PEOPLE commit crimes- why can't you accept that? Is it because acceptance would destroy your idyllic views?

The guy was a smuggler and someome died because of him- lock him up for being an accessory to murder, don't set him free. No plea deal should be allowed for a turd like this.

I can't accept that people commit crimes? Interesting take...

Actually, it's because I do accept that people commit crimes, that regulation of firearms should be far more strict.

 

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I can't accept that people commit crimes? Interesting take...

Actually, it's because I do accept that people commit crimes, that regulation of firearms should be far more strict.

But your comments lay the blame on guns- you want to punish the good owners for what the bad owners have done and will do and while you may know a fair number of Americans, don't assume that all people are the same here, or anywhere else.

The two school shootings in Turkey- if these were 'copycat' shootings, I think it's time the media change their ways of reporting these events. People want attention.

I doubt the creators of the Constitution could have predicted what people have become. Sure, bad people existed at that time but nobody should say that people haven't changed into something terrible. Not all, obviously, but the worst? What should be done with them?

How would you force bad people to comply with laws and rules that are more strict? You can't and they won't. THAT'S the problem- they do what they want, don't want anyone telling them what they can/can't do and will kill at the first insult, one bad look or just because they panic, over-react and can't control their anger. But even a hardened killer can get what they want by being nice or manipulative in a non-threatening manner.

I don't want guns to be in the hands of anyone who should never have them but there's the problem- how can they be made to give up their guns? Yes, too many guns are in their hands, but they weren't sold by gun stores and private sellers won't always do it in a legal way (all transfers go through an FFL). Too many guns are stolen, left in a place where they can be found and taken, given/sold to people who'll use them in crimes and since parts can be sold anonymously, guns can be assembled. Simple guns can be built, too- do you know what a 'zip gun' is? Not fine firearms, but they work.

Then, without even considering those who use guns for violent acts, there's the black market that moves guns all the way from local transactions to international- every single person involved has committed a felony- how can they be tracked, arrested/prosecuted and prevented from getting guns again if those people can't be changed?

 

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But your comments lay the blame on guns- you want to punish the good owners for what the bad owners have done and will do and while you may know a fair number of Americans, don't assume that all people are the same here, or anywhere else.

The two school shootings in Turkey- if these were 'copycat' shootings, I think it's time the media change their ways of reporting these events. People want attention.

I doubt the creators of the Constitution could have predicted what people have become. Sure, bad people existed at that time but nobody should say that people haven't changed into something terrible. Not all, obviously, but the worst? What should be done with them?

How would you force bad people to comply with laws and rules that are more strict? You can't and they won't. THAT'S the problem- they do what they want, don't want anyone telling them what they can/can't do and will kill at the first insult, one bad look or just because they panic, over-react and can't control their anger. But even a hardened killer can get what they want by being nice or manipulative in a non-threatening manner.

I don't want guns to be in the hands of anyone who should never have them but there's the problem- how can they be made to give up their guns? Yes, too many guns are in their hands, but they weren't sold by gun stores and private sellers won't always do it in a legal way (all transfers go through an FFL). Too many guns are stolen, left in a place where they can be found and taken, given/sold to people who'll use them in crimes and since parts can be sold anonymously, guns can be assembled. Simple guns can be built, too- do you know what a 'zip gun' is? Not fine firearms, but they work.

Then, without even considering those who use guns for violent acts, there's the black market that moves guns all the way from local transactions to international- every single person involved has committed a felony- how can they be tracked, arrested/prosecuted and prevented from getting guns again if those people can't be changed?

Re-read my post. Where did I "lay the blame on guns"?

Never mind. This is what I stated:

....easy access to guns in the US is leading to more crime in Canada.

So, not the guns themselves.

Better regulation ≠ "punish the good owners". But, it's all academic now - at least in the US. The country is so thoroughly saturated with firearms, that better regulation is just shutting the barn door after the cows have all escaped. The reason for my post was to illustrate how lax regulations in the US affect Canada. And, as I understand it, it's much worse in Mexico.

 

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Re-read my post. Where did I "lay the blame on guns"?

Never mind. This is what I stated:


So, not the guns themselves.

Better regulation ≠ "punish the good owners". But, it's all academic now - at least in the US. The country is so thoroughly saturated with firearms, that better regulation is just shutting the barn door after the cows have all escaped. The reason for my post was to illustrate how lax regulations in the US affect Canada. And, as I understand it, it's much worse in Mexico.

As I have posted many times, I think that many people who would be legal gun owners shouldn't have access and none of the criminals should, but that's just criminals doing what criminals do.

I have alsop posted about the gung ho mentality being incredibly childish- it's like adults wanting to play war.

Which regulations, specifically? Are you referring to the 'gun show loophole' that would only be a problem if the show is by invitation only? THAT is a problem and I believe it happens frequently, but along with that, I don't believe 2A is something that should be abused and it clearly is.

The argument "a person should be able to do what they want, on their own property" is fine, if all of them will be sensible and not do stupid things and we all know that, given the oportunity, people WILL do stupid things.

Then, there are the stupid people- I heard 24 gunshots early Monday morning and they weren't far away. I can't think of a good reason for it, unless someone was being robbed. Maybe. Shot-Spotter reported the gunfire, but nothing came of it. Thanks for the attempt, Milwaukee PD. To be fair, that department is very understaffed and overworked.

No easy answers.

 

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Re-read my post. Where did I "lay the blame on guns"?

Never mind. This is what I stated:


So, not the guns themselves.

Better regulation ≠ "punish the good owners". But, it's all academic now - at least in the US. The country is so thoroughly saturated with firearms, that better regulation is just shutting the barn door after the cows have all escaped. The reason for my post was to illustrate how lax regulations in the US affect Canada. And, as I understand it, it's much worse in Mexico.

Though the gun goofeys do want machine guns legalized. Some sarcasm but grenades, rocket launchers, bazookas, drones w/ firearms, flame throwers, maybe an atomic bomb hehehe.... in the name of being a "responsible" gun owner.