Parasound 5250, Nad T955

[AcuDefTechGuy]

If a 7 channel receiver can do 60wpc into 4 channels, and the separates amps handle the fronts, I honestly fail to see the point in a separates amps for surround channels.

Wait just a cotton-picken minute here....

Are you implying that I'm wasting my money by powering my surrounds with an AT3005 300WPC amp?

 

[GranteedEV]

Wait just a cotton-picken minute here....

Are you implying that I'm wasting my money by powering my surrounds with an AT3005 300WPC amp?

You waste a lot of money. But at least your mains are being fed power.

500wpc for mains would be awesome.
300wpc for mains is nice.
But 100wpc for mains is average and still acceptable most of the time.

30wpc for surrounds is probably more than i use.
60wpc for surrounds is more than fine especially if not being shared with mains.
100wpc for surrounds doesn't do much more.
300wpc for surrounds is just some ADTG scenario.

 

[3db]

You waste a lot of money. But at least your mains are being fed power.

500wpc for mains would be awesome.
300wpc for mains is nice.
But 100wpc for mains is average and still acceptable most of the time.

30wpc for surrounds is probably more than i use.
60wpc for surrounds is more than fine especially if not being shared with mains.
100wpc for surrounds doesn't do much more.
300wpc for surrounds is just some ADTG scenario.

If distance is a factor which makes sense, then 500wpc and 300wpc are also a waste of money UNLESS you know that you will be buying difficult to drive speakers in the futur. My Yamaha is rated at 130WPC and my speaker are 10 feet away and I cannot stand to be in the room if I were to crank teh volume half way. Its simply too loud and thats running my towers full range.

Surrounds ....Again it depends on the mix. Movies yes..Multichannel audio? I'm guessing more use of the surrounds.

 

[GranteedEV]

Again it depends on the mix. Movies yes..Multichannel audio? I'm guessing more use of the surrounds.

*shrug*

All the multichannel audio i've ever heard, uses surrounds more, but not at higher amplitudes. It just has them used as ambience channel. Maybe I don't listen to enough MCM but i don't instruments from the surround channels, just hall reverb and clapping :lots:: of clapping)

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You waste a lot of money. But at least your mains are being fed power.

500wpc for mains would be awesome.
300wpc for mains is nice.
But 100wpc for mains is average and still acceptable most of the time.

30wpc for surrounds is probably more than i use.
60wpc for surrounds is more than fine especially if not being shared with mains.
100wpc for surrounds doesn't do much more.
300wpc for surrounds is just some ADTG scenario.

I have this affinity for symmetry (hey that rhymes!).

500WPC for mains + 100WPC for surrounds is just not going to work for me.

And I think the OP also has the affinity for symmetry.

So it's either

a) 100WPC x 5 or
b) 140WPC x 5 or
c) 180WPC x 5 or
d) 7ch versions

It's not an essay. It's a multiple choice question!

And for the record, I'm not buying any more stuffs for at least a year!

 

[GranteedEV]

Affinity or not, it's nonsensical to choke out fronts for symmetry.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

*shrug*

All the multichannel audio i've ever heard, uses surrounds more, but not at higher amplitudes. It just has them used as ambience channel. Maybe I don't listen to enough MCM but i don't instruments from the surround channels, just hall reverb and clapping :lots:: of clapping)

I have listened to a lot of DVD-A & SACD 5.1.

The surrounds don't get much at all. Just like the movie surrounds. No biggie.

The 3 front mains still get most of it.

Now matrixed Multi-Ch Stereo is another story. Here, the surrounds sound more like the mains!

DenPureSound listens to MCh-Stereo and his Denon 3311 went into protection mode.

 

[GranteedEV]

Now matrixed Multi-Ch Stereo is another story. Here, the surrounds sound more like the mains!

That's just gonna create destructive interference. NO THANKS!!

 

[slipperybidness]

2 Channels?

OK, we've kinda brought up another point or a new question.

What is the general concensus on running a separate amp just for the L/R? I currently run a pioneer elite VSX-82txs rated at 140W PC (but I suspect this is peak and not all channels driven, does anyone know for sure or seen the measurements on this receiver?).

Any issues with that?

 

[its phillip]

Definitely no harm in getting an amp for just the mains and letting the receiver's amps handle the rest...I would choose to get a three channel amp and do the center as well, but I think it's fine either way.

 

[GranteedEV]

Definitely no harm in getting an amp for just the mains and letting the receiver's amps handle the rest...I would choose to get a three channel amp and do the center as well, but I think it's fine either way.

Pity there isn't much choice for 3 channel amps out there. If only the Emotiva XPA-3 could put out the same power as an XPA-2

 

[3db]

Pity there isn't much choice for 3 channel amps out there. If only the Emotiva XPA-3 could put out the same power as an XPA-2

XPA3 has plenty of power for a 7' speaker distance. More is definately over kill.

 

[jinjuku]

I would like at some point evaluate the Carvin DCM2004L

It is a 4 channel Pro Amp rated at 300 WPC X 4 into 8ohm or 500 WPC X 4 into 4ohm. Costs about $550 shipped so 8 channels of amplification would be $1100.

Built in the USA

BTW, I have had NAD, Emotiva, Crown, Parasound, Behringer, Adcom etc... Don't get too wrapped up around the amp axle. They are more similar than not. Just get good clean power.

I have a Crown XLS 402d and Parasound HCA1000A sitting right here. You are welcome to come over anytime and cold listen and tell me which is the 'Audiophile' amp.

 

[slipperybidness]

BTW, I have had NAD, Emotiva, Crown, Parasound, Behringer, Adcom etc... Don't get too wrapped up around the amp axle. They are more similar than not. Just get good clean power.

OK, which company do you personally prefer out of these?

 

[jinjuku]

OK, which company do you personally prefer out of these?

I prefer the product that gets the intended job done at the best possible price without sacrificing quality.

Outside of the Crown XLS and Behringer all my purchases have been used. If you can land an Adcom 5503 for ~$400-450 it is a solid three channel amp that has the grunt to drive 99% of the speakers out there.

 

[PENG]

*shrug*

All the multichannel audio i've ever heard, uses surrounds more, but not at higher amplitudes. It just has them used as ambience channel. Maybe I don't listen to enough MCM but i don't instruments from the surround channels, just hall reverb and clapping :lots:: of clapping)

Same here, but I guess there are a few of those that has pretty loud contents for the surrounds. I remember TLSG mentioned one like that but I am not if I would worry about it just because there exist a disc or two that needs so much power for the surrounds.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

OK, we've kinda brought up another point or a new question.

What is the general concensus on running a separate amp just for the L/R? I currently run a pioneer elite VSX-82txs rated at 140W PC (but I suspect this is peak and not all channels driven, does anyone know for sure or seen the measurements on this receiver?).

Any issues with that?

As long as you level match each speaker to the reference standard 75dBC volume, it's all peachy.