Israel's influence on US foreign policies

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Yep, the UN has repeatedly said that starving the people in Gaza for food and medicine is akin to GENOCIDE. If you count the civilian body count, the Israeli has inflicted a far greater body count than both Hamas and Hezbollah put together. Far greater. So please shove your pro Israel attitude where no one can hear it. Hezbollah never made a statement like Ben-Gvir that stars for every IDF soldier lost, 1000 Lebanese mothers will mourn.

It’s sad to think that you think it’s funny.

 

[ski2xblack]

Seemed less hateful than any other response to your "stick it up your ass" vitriol. I wasn't making light of war, just laughing at you specifically.

 

[jinjuku]

What ill will did Iran do to its neighbor? I need proof.

Seriously giving thought to your motives here.

Over the past three decades, Iran's regional foreign policy has frequently disrupted stability. The core of this regional turbulence stems from several primary activities. Primarily Proxy and Militia Support: Funding, arming, and training a network of non-state actors (often referred to as the "Axis of Resistance"), including Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and various militias in Iraq and Syria, which frequently undermine sovereign state authority.Maritime and Energy Disruption: Harassing, seizing, and attacking commercial vessels in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, a vital global shipping chokepoint.Ballistic Missile and Drone Proliferation: Developing and transferring advanced ballistic missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to state and non-state allies, escalating local conflicts.Nuclear Escalation: Expanding its nuclear program beyond the limits set by the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which has repeatedly raised international tensions.Cyber Warfare: Executing disruptive cyberattacks targeting regional infrastructure, government networks, and financial institutions.Regional Interventions: Deploying Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) personnel and directing foreign fighters to actively engage in civil conflicts, notably in Syria and Yemen.

 

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Seemed less hateful than any other response to your "stick it up your ass" vitriol. I wasn't making light of war, just laughing at you specifically.

Please look in the mirror before laughing at others. You may just see a clown staring back at you. Just sayin.

 

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Hezb

Seriously giving thought to your motives here.

Over the past three decades, Iran's regional foreign policy has frequently disrupted stability. The core of this regional turbulence stems from several primary activities. Primarily Proxy and Militia Support: Funding, arming, and training a network of non-state actors (often referred to as the "Axis of Resistance"), including Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and various militias in Iraq and Syria, which frequently undermine sovereign state authority.Maritime and Energy Disruption: Harassing, seizing, and attacking commercial vessels in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, a vital global shipping chokepoint.Ballistic Missile and Drone Proliferation: Developing and transferring advanced ballistic missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to state and non-state allies, escalating local conflicts.Nuclear Escalation: Expanding its nuclear program beyond the limits set by the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which has repeatedly raised international tensions.Cyber Warfare: Executing disruptive cyberattacks targeting regional infrastructure, government networks, and financial institutions.Regional Interventions: Deploying Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) personnel and directing foreign fighters to actively engage in civil conflicts, notably in Syria and Yemen.

Hezbollah created by the Israelis last incursion into Lebanon. Netanyahu making secret deals with Hamas to prevent the Palestinians from creating a stable government. If you point fingers at Iran, you need to point fingers at Israel as well. Neither side has been a model citizen of the world. I’m sick and tired of tired of just hearing Iran Iran Iran when Israel is equally guilty of creating instability in the region. Mix in the meddling US and things go from bad to worse.

 

[ski2xblack]

Please look in the mirror before laughing at others. You may just see a clown staring back at you. Just sayin.

At least it's not Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson looking back. That's what YOU sound like in this thread.

Clearly the laugh emoji hurt you in your fee-fees in a way I didn't anticipate. Carry on with demonizing the jews like the good little fascist helpful idiot you are.

 

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At least it's not Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson looking back. That's what YOU sound like in this thread.

Clearly the laugh emoji hurt you in your fee-fees in a way I didn't anticipate. Carry on with demonizing the jews like the good little fascist helpful idiot you are.

Clearly you are so mistaken. Misinformed people such as you can never hurt my feelings. It only makes me feel sorry for you.

As far as demonizing Jews , I’m not. Im only demonizing the fascist pigs that believe Israeli Hitler’s (Netanyahu’s) cause.

Furthermore Israeli Hitler doesn’t even consider the Jewish people outside of Israel as Jews. But your ignorance of what is really going on is blinding you to the truth. Since ignorance is bliss, I urge you to keep watching the highly accurate news casts from Fox News.

 

[ski2xblack]

The truth is that there is no genocide, and yes, Netanyahoo is a schmuck. But Israel has a right to exist, and your thinly veiled antisemitism is abhorrent.

 

[Dude#1279435]

The truth is that there is no genocide, and yes, Netanyahoo is a schmuck. But Israel has a right to exist, and your thinly veiled antisemitism is abhorrent.

I'm not seeing this antisemitism.

 

[Dude#1279435]

The way I see it Netanyahu used Trump to attack Iran that allowed him to use extra resources to do some land grabbing in Lebanon in the name of creating a buffer. Trump for whatever reason thought Iran was Venezuela and would be a breeze. Oops. Iran wants us to feel the consequences and are doing a pretty good job of it. You can't change Iran's ideology (regime change). About all you can do is sanction them. While I can't stand the right under Trump, the truth is nobody asked for this war. It looks like Iran will come out better in this, and Trump and Netanyahu's legacy are toast. Maybe more importantly, Israel will never be viewed the same again.

 

[Dude#1279435]

I just get back the 40x Trump said a peace agreement has been reached LOL.

 

[ski2xblack]

I'm not seeing this antisemitism.

Suggesting the Jews control everything? Invoking Hitler and Naziism and applying it to Israel? Accusations of genocide? It's a gross mischaracterization that diminishes what an actual genocide is. Open your eyes, man.

The palestinians "solution" is more similar to naziism (the elimination of all jews and Israel as an entity) than Israel's response to palestinian barbarism on Oct. 7. Even the neighboring muslim countries want nothing to do with the palestinians, refusing them immigration in the case of Egypt, or birthright citizenship for those who have been living in Lebanon for three generations, or financial support from the gulf oil states. They are more concerned with the Palestinian cause as a political football than the Palestinian people and their wellbeing.

I think your assessnent of the current war is spot on. And I would grant 3db that the palestinians were royally screwed in 1948, and repeatedly since. But whether Netanyahu is in charge or not, the Israelis will never allow right of return for millions of people who want to kill them. Never going to happen.

We can watch some youtube videos and fancy ourselves as experts in geopolitics, and even take petty pot shots at each other on an audio forum, but none of us are going to solve this intractable conflict. And none of that excuses the rise of antisemitism taking place, from the right and even more from the left lately. That it's evident here is highly disappointing to say the least.

 

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Suggesting the Jews control everything? Invoking Hitler and Naziism and applying it to Israel? Accusations of genocide? It's a gross mischaracterization that diminishes what an actual genocide is. Open your eyes, man.

The palestinians "solution" is more similar to naziism (the elimination of all jews and Israel as an entity) than Israel's response to palestinian barbarism on Oct. 7. Even the neighboring muslim countries want nothing to do with the palestinians, refusing them immigration in the case of Egypt, or birthright citizenship for those who have been living in Lebanon for three generations, or financial support from the gulf oil states. They are more concerned with the Palestinian cause as a political football than the Palestinian people and their wellbeing.

I think your assessnent of the current war is spot on. And I would grant 3db that the palestinians were royally screwed in 1948, and repeatedly since. But whether Netanyahu is in charge or not, the Israelis will never allow right of return for millions of people who want to kill them. Never going to happen.

We can watch some youtube videos and fancy ourselves as experts in geopolitics, and even take petty pot shots at each other on an audio forum, but none of us are going to solve this intractable conflict. And none of that excuses the rise of antisemitism taking place, from the right and even more from the left lately. That it's evident here is highly disappointing to say the least.

The rise of antisemitism outside of Israel is disgusting and I condemn it. Unfortunately the rest of the world is seeing the crimes against humanity committed by the fascists in Israel and turn their anger to the unfortunate Jewish population outside of Israel. That’s the reason why we are seeing that rise of antisemitism. What’s worse is that f?cktard Netanyahu doesn’t care what happens to the Jewish people outside of Israel.

Israel does have a right to exist but it does not have the right to do land grabs and perform ethnic cleansing under the false guise of security. The parallels between what Israel is currently doing is shockingly similar to Nazi Getmany and their conquest of Europe.

Im no geopolitical expert and that is why I listen to independent experts such as Larry Johnson, ex CIA analyst, retired Col Larry Wilkerson who served as chief of staff to General Powell.
Robert Pape, professor at the University of Chicago whose modelling of this war was spot on, Trita Parsi who has been studying the middle east for 3 decades. There are others I listen to
as well but I can’t remember their names. I listen to them because they are independent and not
under control or influence of the pro Israeli owners that slants the news in Israel’s favour.

The Adelson family, led by billionaire Dr. Miriam Adelson, holds significant influence in the global news media landscape, primarily through two major newspaper assets. Their media holdings function both as business investments and as ideological platforms to shape conservative, pro-Israel, and Republican politics. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Key Media Assets

• Israel Hayom (Israel): The Adelson family owns and publishes this Hebrew-language daily, which is one of the most widely circulated newspapers in Israel. Founded by her late husband Sheldon Adelson, the paper historically championed Benjamin Netanyahu and is recognized for its right-wing editorial stance.[1, 2, 3]
• Las Vegas Review-Journal (United States): In 2015, the Adelson family purchased Nevada's largest newspaper in a $140 million deal. The acquisition sparked major controversy and scrutiny from media watchdogs regarding editorial independence and transparency, as the family's identity was initially kept secret during the purchase process. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Political Impact and Reach
The family's media empires are closely tied to their massive financial contributions to the U.S. Republican party and conservative causes. Both publications have historically been utilized to back high-profile political allies; for example, the Las Vegas Review-Journal was one of the first major American newspapers to endorse Donald Trump for president. Despite being vocal supporters, the publications occasionally publish dissenting op-eds holding politicians to account on specific policies.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Suggesting the Jews control everything? Invoking Hitler and Naziism and applying it to Israel? Accusations of genocide? It's a gross mischaracterization that diminishes what an actual genocide is. Open your eyes, man.

The palestinians "solution" is more similar to naziism (the elimination of all jews and Israel as an entity) than Israel's response to palestinian barbarism on Oct. 7. Even the neighboring muslim countries want nothing to do with the palestinians, refusing them immigration in the case of Egypt, or birthright citizenship for those who have been living in Lebanon for three generations, or financial support from the gulf oil states. They are more concerned with the Palestinian cause as a political football than the Palestinian people and their wellbeing.

I think your assessnent of the current war is spot on. And I would grant 3db that the palestinians were royally screwed in 1948, and repeatedly since. But whether Netanyahu is in charge or not, the Israelis will never allow right of return for millions of people who want to kill them. Never going to happen.

We can watch some youtube videos and fancy ourselves as experts in geopolitics, and even take petty pot shots at each other on an audio forum, but none of us are going to solve this intractable conflict. And none of that excuses the rise of antisemitism taking place, from the right and even more from the left lately. That it's evident here is highly disappointing to say the least.

I'm not seeing his antisemitism though. Never heard him mention Jews etc. I think if you criticize Israel that does not automatically equate to antisemitism. A right to exist for sure, but a right to more territory hmmm.

 

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I'm not seeing his antisemitism though. Never heard him mention Jews etc. I think if you criticize Israel that does not automatically equate to antisemitism. A right to exist for sure, but a right to more territory hmmm.

Unfortunately, the world views things as black and white and this weak ass call by those who call what Israel is doing is wrong is antisemitic. Here’s the irony. There are Jewish people outside of Israel that are against what Israel is doing. I guess they must be antisemitic as well despite practicing their faith. Netanyahu and his fascist followers are hypocrites and have ambitions to take over the middle east. I call it as I see it. I take comfort in knowing what the difference is between antisemitism and calling out a leader and his followers in a state that has turned fascist.

 

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I just get back the 40x Trump said a peace agreement has been reached LOL.

That’s because Trump suddenly remembered again,, the impending world wide depression as oil reserves run dry.

Like I said earlier, the US has 2 choices.
Pull out of Israel while the US still has oil or pull out of Israel once oil reserves have run dry. This is how this scenario will unfold.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Much more technical detail in the link. I imagine it's to marry us even further into Israel given the current Iran war.

The National Defense Authorization Act FY 2027 (Sec. 219 and Sec. 1217) — A New Policy

As political pressure builds to reduce U.S. military assistance to Israel, Section 224 provides the framework for continuing - and expanding - U.S.-Israel military ties by entrenching Israeli technology within the U.S. defense supply chain in a way that would shield it from the annual appropriations

www.anewpolicy.org

>>>A New Policy strongly opposes section 219/1217 because the purpose of this section is to avoid the scrutiny and transparency afforded through the current grant assistance to Israel in favor of a mechanism designed to implant Israel’s defense and intelligence establishments into the most sensitive and basic levels of America’s own defense technology ecosystem. This approach exposes sensitive U.S. capabilities to counterintelligence risk, normalizes technologies developed in contexts of occupation and civilian harm, disadvantages U.S. defense companies ability to compete with Israeli competitors, deepens U.S. legal and reputational exposure without clear strategic necessity, and aims to hide continuing U.S. military support to Israel from Congressional and public transparency. <<<

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I think we have to continue funding Israel in terms of self-defense, but I don't wanna be involved in this. Even worse I thought was seeing American zealots in YT comments stating things like "sacred land." SMH

Greater Israel: an Ongoing Expansion Plan for the Middle East and North Africa – MEPEI

mepei.com

This view on region’s future is neither new nor rare. In a January 2024 recording, Israeli politician Avi Lipkin was stating: “… eventually, our borders will extend from Lebanon to the Great Desert, which is Saudi Arabia, and then from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates. And who is on the other side of the Euphrates? The Kurds! And the Kurds are friends. So we have Mediterranean behind us, the Kurds in front of us, Lebanon, which really needs the umbrella of protection of Israel, and then we’re gonna take, I believe we’re gonna take Mecca, Medina and Mount Sinai, and to purify those places” (muslimi.official, 2024), (Middle East Monitor 1, 2024).

 

[3db]

Much more technical detail in the link. I imagine it's to marry us even further into Israel given the current Iran war.

The National Defense Authorization Act FY 2027 (Sec. 219 and Sec. 1217) — A New Policy

As political pressure builds to reduce U.S. military assistance to Israel, Section 224 provides the framework for continuing - and expanding - U.S.-Israel military ties by entrenching Israeli technology within the U.S. defense supply chain in a way that would shield it from the annual appropriations

www.anewpolicy.org

>>>A New Policy strongly opposes section 219/1217 because the purpose of this section is to avoid the scrutiny and transparency afforded through the current grant assistance to Israel in favor of a mechanism designed to implant Israel’s defense and intelligence establishments into the most sensitive and basic levels of America’s own defense technology ecosystem. This approach exposes sensitive U.S. capabilities to counterintelligence risk, normalizes technologies developed in contexts of occupation and civilian harm, disadvantages U.S. defense companies ability to compete with Israeli competitors, deepens U.S. legal and reputational exposure without clear strategic necessity, and aims to hide continuing U.S. military support to Israel from Congressional and public transparency. <<<

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I think we have to continue funding Israel in terms of self-defense, but I don't wanna be involved in this. Even worse I thought was seeing American zealots in YT comments stating things like "sacred land." SMH

Greater Israel: an Ongoing Expansion Plan for the Middle East and North Africa – MEPEI

mepei.com

This view on region’s future is neither new nor rare. In a January 2024 recording, Israeli politician Avi Lipkin was stating: “… eventually, our borders will extend from Lebanon to the Great Desert, which is Saudi Arabia, and then from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates. And who is on the other side of the Euphrates? The Kurds! And the Kurds are friends. So we have Mediterranean behind us, the Kurds in front of us, Lebanon, which really needs the umbrella of protection of Israel, and then we’re gonna take, I believe we’re gonna take Mecca, Medina and Mount Sinai, and to purify those places” (muslimi.official, 2024), (Middle East Monitor 1, 2024).

I hope that bill never passes as it marries the US to a fascist state bent on taking over the middle east. Ive been talking about how evil Israel has become. Iran was the ONLY country that called out Israel for what its done to the Palestinians. NATO only supplied verbal diahrea.

If Trump does try and renew the war, Iran will reduce Israel to a smoldering mess of a country and the US and the rest of the world's economies will fall into a depression. The US will not win this war.