You really believe this,eh?
Geoff said:
Are you for real? Call yourself a Patriot?
Yep. I was in the service and did m part to keep my country, and yours, safe so you have the freedom to spew this bile. What have you done for the world, or even your country? Post lies on the Internet anonymously?
After all, you're doing this on an American forum, aren't you?
Is it customary to urinate in your host's house where you are from or is that just something unique to your family's upbringing? No wonder you don't get invited anywhere.
Geoff said:
I tell you that the number of innocents I think would be killed if you'd sent troops in would be less than the number that will now be killed because the air force have just blown away key intel.
Well, they are already mining quite a bit of intel. Gotta love dem memory sticks and hard drives.
And, my oblivious friend, from this post here you obviously have NO experience with military logistics, although common sense alone would be enough for you to see the failures in your logic, and I use that word loosely. ...VERY loosely.
"you think"??? No, actually, you
don't think. You've been playing too many video games. Here's a shocker. The world ain't like that. Once you're down you don't get to hit the reset button and start again.
I'm glad you weren't in charge of my division in the service. I want some who has a bit more background than a simple, uneducated, opinion to have command over my life and death. I want someone that has studied the art of warfare, not a petulant child.
Unless, of course, Zarqawi's death didn't come at the cost of enough American lives to suit you. Is that the case? ...sure seems like that to me.
"A million deaths were not enough for Yueh!"*
Geoff said:
sounds pretty sensible to me
Saturday morning cartoons seem pretty sensible to children, too. Go take in a movie with PeeWee Herman.
Geoff said:
But you, as the boards' obvious intellectual, think it's feeble rhetoric.
I know it is.
Maybe compared to your circle of acquaintances I would be considered an intellectual because I base my beliefs on facts, not propaganda, but here I'm just an average Joe but, I'll give you credit here. You did nail this one. Even a blind pig finds a truffle occasionally.
Yep, simply more rhetoric on your part. No thought, just reaction without thought, such as a paramecium when exposed to light or Pavlov's dog to a bell.
Geoff said:
You also state I sounded "proud" when I asked since when the coallition gave a toss about innocent lives. Are you just really, really brainy, or are you psychic, because it would take one heck of a brain to find "pride" in that sentence.
Yep, you were gloating when you made that comment. It was obvious. I'm no the only one who noticed it, either. I guess you didn't bother to read the comments from others.
Geoff said:
You just don't get it do you? You have some kind of chip on your shoulder. Americans are being taken for a ride by a "government" that is cleaning you out financially, destroying your military and generally turning upside down everything your forefathers fought for.... honesty, decency, freedom from tyrannical rule. You Americans did that (and the French).
Actually, from your posts here, I'd say you're the one with a chip on his shoulder, and perhaps a touch of jealousy for all we are and just a pinch of schadenfreude to boot.
Geoff said:
You brought hope to the world's "underclass", the people that were put down and kept down by greedy, scheming tyrants. You stood up to it, stopped it, gave the ordinary Joe some hope... of a better life for him and his family. And the World loved you for it.
Yep. It would have been nice if you guys had pitched in but no, it was all up to us. Look at the thanks we get for keeping you safe and sound all these years.
Oh, and don't think you are exactly loved overseas. People both envy and fear our influence and power while you're just considered insignificant and harmless, like water on a duck's back.
Geoff said:
Now the World doesn't love you (despite what Fox News says). You have to ask yourself why.
What's love got to do with it? Well, they all want to be our trading partners, though.
I guess they don't think we did enough to save the whole world from itself. IMNSHO, we should have let the little countries destroy each other and then swoop in and pick the bones for our benefit but no, some people believe in doing the right thing.
But, when you're the only one fighting the good fight and everyone else sits on the sideline, sucking the blood out of us and simultaneously tearing it down, what do you expect?
We rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII. What did your country do?
We're the first ones called and the first ones to respond at times of disaster. What has your county ever done to make the world a better place?
Geoff said:
Abu Ghraib, rendition flights, 150,000 dead Iraqi civiians, faked evidence to support the war, troops not being given proper armour, buying their own uniforms, paying for food while in hospital recovering from IED's, a refusal of your president to attend funerals for those killed defending America, or allow them to be shown on TV.
It was our tower's that came down, not yours. As usual, we'll deal with our problems as we see fit since you are powerless to either help us or stop us.
FWIW, if you read the facts, not your propaganda, you will learn (if that's possible) that most of the killings are from the insurgents. Believe it or not, we DO try to avoid harming civilians, but you don't want to believe that, do you?
How about we set up camp in your home town for the Abu Garab prisoners? I'm sure you would be proud to personally provide for their every need with glee, at least their physical ones. You could be their first virgin. Oh, those prisoners are from Afghanistan, not Iraq and they are prisoners of war. deal with it.
Now, you're imply being silly. Does your grand pooftah attend every funeral of everyone who dies in the service of yours country, assuming anyone does?
the numbers aren't enough for you? Believe it or not the the bodies are not returned or your personal viewing pleasure. The families of the soldiers are the ones that matter, not ghouls like you.
there's' an exhibit of artistically poised corpses going on in the MOMA right now that would probably get your blood rushing.
Geoff said:
If I were an American, I would feel the only patriotic thing to do now would be to support your troops and bring them home. Let the Arabs sort their own mess out.
You're just backpedaling now, trying to save face, but you've already lost the battle, and the war.
You're not an American so you obviously feel it's perfectly all right to insinuate we are indiscriminate killers, right?
BTW, big guy, what do you call home? I have my suspicions but, out of respect to other posters from your country here, I'll give you a chance to show us you're a man, not just another leftie coward hiding behind a moniker.
Got enough cojones to answer that? ...I didn't think so.
Boy, for a newbie you sure know how to make friends. You probably have as many "real" ones as you do here.
* Dune, Frank Herbert
