mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Most likely a lose of a engine show the plane taking off, like falling off the wing. Airport CCTV footage showed the left engine detaching from the wing on take off. .
Was the wing on fire at that time or afterwards from fuel sparing everywhere.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
And yet, the B-52 is still being used after 70 years, with upgraded engines.

I have to think they swap engines occasionally and do metallurgical testing of the mounting points. I guess we'll find out if the bolts came out/broke or if the mount itself failed. Hopefully, it's not sabotage- we definitely don't need that to become a common event.

RIP
At time they also remove it, check and take things apart to check things, then remount it. Unless they happen to have one waiting in line so $$$ is not lost.
Come to think of it, there was a scandal a while back about using parts that do not qualify QC.
 
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dlaloum

Senior Audioholic
I suppose I can LOL, but it's also rather sad. It's as if they cannot figure out the problem, which IMO is you have these conservative "personalities," not conservative news people with say a constitutional background (nope) or just more newsy stuff. I mean Mark Levine, Benny Johnson, Candace Owens, Laura Loomer etc -- when are you people gonna wake up?! Plus how are you gonna 'get the vote out' with this clown show in office? Pleas enlighten me.

They are not in fact conservative, they are actually reactionary...

The Democrat "establishment" as well as the traditional Republicans - they are all true Conservatives.

Sanders, Mamdani, Ocasio-Cortez, these are progressive rather than conservative.

It always annoys me to hear reactionaries called "conservative" - meaningless nonsense! Orwellian double speak.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
And yet, the B-52 is still being used after 70 years, with upgraded engines.

I have to think they swap engines occasionally and do metallurgical testing of the mounting points. I guess we'll find out if the bolts came out/broke or if the mount itself failed. Hopefully, it's not sabotage- we definitely don't need that to become a common event.

RIP
B52s have an intense maintenance system. Does UPS for the MD11? Why would it be sabotage rather than negligence?
 
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dlaloum

Senior Audioholic
B52s have an intense maintenance system. Does UPS for the MD11? Why would it be sabotage rather than negligence?
Occams razor - the simplest possibility is the most likely one!

Incompetence in maintenance is much more likely than sabotage.

But there will be a major investigation, and people will be looking for very public explanations!
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

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B52s have an intense maintenance system. Does UPS for the MD11? Why would it be sabotage rather than negligence?
Occams razor - the simplest possibility is the most likely one!

Incompetence in maintenance is much more likely than sabotage.

But there will be a major investigation, and people will be looking for very public explanations!
I was going to guess that the MD 11 airframes probably have a lot more flight hours on them than the B52s. So, I "did the google".

The average B-52H in service has logged approximately
18,850 flight hours, though this number can vary depending on individual aircraft usage. This is a testament to the aircraft's long service life, with the estimated maximum airframe life being between 32,500 and 37,500 hours, meaning most are well under their total lifespan limit.


Given the high annual usage rates of MD-11 freighters, individual aircraft currently in service with companies like FedEx and UPS (many of which are over 25-30 years old) have likely accumulated 80,000 to over 100,000 flight hours throughout their lifespan.
I suspect that, despite the vast difference in flight hours, B-52s receive significantly more TLC than the average MD 11.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Some decent analysis it seems in this that just came in my feed
Interesting video, especially where he talks about the Chicago crash of the same kind of plane, same left engine fell off. Long maintenance on this aircraft, a month or more. Wow, with other issues.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
They are not in fact conservative, they are actually reactionary...

The Democrat "establishment" as well as the traditional Republicans - they are all true Conservatives.

Sanders, Mamdani, Ocasio-Cortez, these are progressive rather than conservative.

It always annoys me to hear reactionaries called "conservative" - meaningless nonsense! Orwellian double speak.
Just curious. Do you think you can be both reactionary and conservative? I don't really get why they're reactionary though. To change? In their view I imagine what has always worked has always worked, but I'm befuddled to why they don't really have input on anything beyond being reactionary? I think they will say this applies to the left too, but my experience is that while the left media are not saints, they tell the truth about the right more than vice versa. I tend to think part of that is the degree to which they lie, so the lies compound themselves to cover for the initial lies. There's conservative influencers, national conservative radio, the NY Post, Faux primetime, X, etc. Not much there in terms of factual news IMO. I remember the guy on reddit who replied to why there are no real "conservative" search engines. Answer: because they will just lie.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
B52s have an intense maintenance system. Does UPS for the MD11? Why would it be sabotage rather than negligence?
I would hope UPS has a stringent maintenance policy- how would they be able to secure insurance if they don't?

Why sabotage? Because people want attention and too many think they have a right to do whatever they want, that's why.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I was going to guess that the MD 11 airframes probably have a lot more flight hours on them than the B52s. So, I "did the google".





I suspect that, despite the vast difference in flight hours, B-52s receive significantly more TLC than the average MD 11.
The high flight hours is the reason I mentioned metallurgical testing- X-ray of critical components as a field-test is common.
 

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