Trell

Trell

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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
Trump calls his supporters and Republicans for "stupid people", but we all knew that.

Again the hypocrisy from Trump. :rolleyes:
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
>>> President Donald Trump was examined for swelling in his legs and has been diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency, the White House announced Thursday. . . . The examination came after Trump had “noted mild swelling in his lower legs” over recent weeks, Leavitt said.<<<


This doesn't look "mild" to me, but of course I'm not a doctor:

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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
>>> President Donald Trump was examined for swelling in his legs and has been diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency, the White House announced Thursday. . . . The examination came after Trump had “noted mild swelling in his lower legs” over recent weeks, Leavitt said.<<<


This doesn't look "mild" to me, but of course I'm not a doctor:

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My ma has that. I saw a person at work with that but it was such a dark black & blue I was concerned about circulation.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
>>> President Donald Trump was examined for swelling in his legs and has been diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency, the White House announced Thursday. . . . The examination came after Trump had “noted mild swelling in his lower legs” over recent weeks, Leavitt said.<<<


This doesn't look "mild" to me, but of course I'm not a doctor:

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Maybe the bone spurs migrated.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
That one where Melania said she was doing an anti-cyber bullying campaign during the first term. Uh, Trump was the king of cyber bullying. WTF!
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
Thought this was a solid summary of Trump's strategy, though in hindsight I think it made his fans look putting it nicely naive.....


<<<To answer this I read a number of books, including Steve Hassan’s “The Cult of Trump,” Matt Taibbi’s “Hate, Inc.”, and Scott Adams “Win Bigly.” All three books provided insight into why Trump enjoys the support he does. Hassan talked about high demand organizations (like Evangelical Churches) transferring support to Trump, Taibbi talked about the business models for media organizations leading to increased polarization of the electorate, and Adams talked about Trump’s persuasion skills (labeling him a “master persuader”).

But Dr. Mercieca’s book is the first one that describes the rhetoric Trump employed to really create an “us / them” dynamic with the electorate.

In terms of creating an “us,” according to Dr. Mercieca Trump used ad populum anti-political-correctness rhetoric to help forge a bond with his people, the wise-but-underappreciated men and women (“the forgotten”); he used paralipsis (“I’m not saying, I’m just saying”) to let his followers “in the know” what he really thought, but couldn’t proclaim; and he used American Exceptionalism to unite his followers with an America from the past.

In terms of creating a “them,” Trump used ad hominem attacks against anyone who criticized him; he used ad baculum threats against the media (“such dishonest reporters”) to help inoculate himself beforehand against criticisms of hypocrisy or any kind of fact-checking (“what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening”); and he used reification to objectify others, such as immigrants.

Altogether Trump’s rhetorical techniques were incredibly effective at dividing the United States into those who were for Trump through thick and thin, and those who were against him no matter what he did or what he accomplished. In other words, “the cult of Trump” and “Trump derangement syndrome” are two sides of the same coin. As much as I may wonder why Trump supporters still line up behind him, they probably wonder why I'm so against him, and why I believe so many of the "hoaxes" against him.<<<
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord

>>>Zoom out: Those who've examined Trump's rhetoric see comments like that as an acknowledgment that while some of his words are strategic, many are meant simply to get attention — and that more than anything, Trump sees his rallies as entertainment.

  • "He frequently digresses, then digresses from his digression, and never finishes a complete thought," Jennifer Mercieca, a Texas A&M University professor who wrote a book called "Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump," said in an email to Axios.
  • "It's hard to know why he does this," Mercieca said. "Perhaps new ideas occur to him as he is delivering his speech, perhaps he's playing off of the crowd or changing topics when he suspects the audience is bored."
  • "Or perhaps his mind is incapable of staying focused long enough on one idea to see it through to its logical conclusion."<<<
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Thought this was a solid summary of Trump's strategy, though in hindsight I think it made his fans look putting it nicely naive.....


<<<To answer this I read a number of books, including Steve Hassan’s “The Cult of Trump,” Matt Taibbi’s “Hate, Inc.”, and Scott Adams “Win Bigly.” All three books provided insight into why Trump enjoys the support he does. Hassan talked about high demand organizations (like Evangelical Churches) transferring support to Trump, Taibbi talked about the business models for media organizations leading to increased polarization of the electorate, and Adams talked about Trump’s persuasion skills (labeling him a “master persuader”).

But Dr. Mercieca’s book is the first one that describes the rhetoric Trump employed to really create an “us / them” dynamic with the electorate.

In terms of creating an “us,” according to Dr. Mercieca Trump used ad populum anti-political-correctness rhetoric to help forge a bond with his people, the wise-but-underappreciated men and women (“the forgotten”); he used paralipsis (“I’m not saying, I’m just saying”) to let his followers “in the know” what he really thought, but couldn’t proclaim; and he used American Exceptionalism to unite his followers with an America from the past.

In terms of creating a “them,” Trump used ad hominem attacks against anyone who criticized him; he used ad baculum threats against the media (“such dishonest reporters”) to help inoculate himself beforehand against criticisms of hypocrisy or any kind of fact-checking (“what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening”); and he used reification to objectify others, such as immigrants.

Altogether Trump’s rhetorical techniques were incredibly effective at dividing the United States into those who were for Trump through thick and thin, and those who were against him no matter what he did or what he accomplished. In other words, “the cult of Trump” and “Trump derangement syndrome” are two sides of the same coin. As much as I may wonder why Trump supporters still line up behind him, they probably wonder why I'm so against him, and why I believe so many of the "hoaxes" against him.<<<
As far as I can tell, Trump triggers emotional reactions (especially anger) and logic goes out the window once people get emotional.

It seems as if logically inconsistent statements have little effect once a person is on board at an emotional level.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
As far as I can tell, Trump triggers emotional reactions (especially anger) and logic goes out the window once people get emotional.

It seems as if logically inconsistent statements have little effect once a person is on board at an emotional level.
You can see this on this very forum, especially among older conservative males*. I don't claim that this does not happen with some older liberal males, but I do recall a study some years ago that older conservative males were much more prone to it. Perhaps I'll try dig that study up again in an exercise of confirmation bias.

* Not that there are many, if any, "young" members anyway, and not to speak of women. o_O
 
Teetertotter?

Teetertotter?

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I am waiting for more announcements: more farm closings, more business closings, more job losses, more filing for unemployment, state of overall economy, higher rate of inflation, companies downsizing, and more. All on a monthly basis reporting.

It won't be over for a long time, is my prediction. I am reading Trumps tariffs are the BIG cause of what is going on.

Then we have Make America Healthy Again, over the use of color dyes, and forgot what else. Sugar? But, is alcohol and tobacco worse, as has been mentioned? lol

Is the GOP transparent? Continues with lies. DOJ and FBI are WHAT???? lol Perhaps we will soon learn, that all of Trumps male appointees, are involved with underaged girls? Are there not any surprises with Trumps appointees? Trumps appointees are so dumb, , and they don't care. Are these people upstanding and knowledgeable? lol Folks 3-1/2 more years?
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Then we have Make America Healthy Again, over the use of color dyes, and forgot what else. Sugar? But, is alcohol and tobacco worse, as has been mentioned? lol
Use of color dyes is "woke" but alcohol and tobacco is "manly". How many people are dying from "dying" their hair compared to alcohol and tobacco? Then there is the typical MAGA you see at Trump events: old very fat people oozing fat from their spandex suit.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Good lord.

1 in 5 Americans believe this?

>>>In a survey conducted just before last November's election . . . [PRRI] . . . found that nearly a fifth of Americans agree with QAnon-linked statements, including most pointedly: "The government, media, and financial worlds in the US are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping paedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation."

 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Good lord.

1 in 5 Americans believe this?

>>>In a survey conducted just before last November's election . . . [PRRI] . . . found that nearly a fifth of Americans agree with QAnon-linked statements, including most pointedly: "The government, media, and financial worlds in the US are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping paedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation."

There was the guy (former military IIRC) who thought the Pizzagate thing was real and went to the restaurant to shoot people....that's probably fairly indicative how the general public may "understand" such.
 
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hole46

Audioholic Intern
Good lord.

1 in 5 Americans believe this?

>>>In a survey conducted just before last November's election . . . [PRRI] . . . found that nearly a fifth of Americans agree with QAnon-linked statements, including most pointedly: "The government, media, and financial worlds in the US are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping paedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation."

Wasn’t trump a best friend of paedophile Jeremy Epstein of the infamous Epstein files which trump wanted to release as part of his election promise but he tries to say they don’t exist?


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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
Good lord.

1 in 5 Americans believe this?

>>>In a survey conducted just before last November's election . . . [PRRI] . . . found that nearly a fifth of Americans agree with QAnon-linked statements, including most pointedly: "The government, media, and financial worlds in the US are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping paedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation."

The lie is so absurd, and Qanon had its moment going back to the first terms. Moment as in a very niche thing that was mentioned but never really [I thought] had any traction.

Also I hope for Trump's sake he didn't know about what Epstein was doing. Saagar from Breaking Points read off a quote from Trump years back stating he and Epstein were good friends going on 15 years and Jeffrey liked young girls. Ah I'm not even gonna bother finding the quote. Jeez I heard Epstein kept some of his victims captive on his islands.
 

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