Way, less and with much better health care outcome for the general population on many metrics.
The life expectancy of a US male is 73.5 years (from 2021 statistics used by Social Security for 2024), as one example. Quite bad and shows how broken the US health care system is.
You'll never convince him with statistics or rational arguments, though.
As I posted previously, it's not just health care, it's a litany of problems-
- People are lazy, many didn't finish school.
- People can't be bothered to learn about or engage in health, exercise, healthy cooking/eating & drinking.
- Alcohol and drugs contribute heavily to the decreased life expectancy.
- Lobbying members of Congress has caused a lot of this and it could easily have been prevented.
- The education system has failed in teaching kids to think about staying healthy (and many other topics).