On Trump

[GO-NAD!]

I remember when this would have been considered problematic...
Trump's transition is happening over private emails. Federal officials are nervous. - POLITICO

 

[3db]

While I'm not a Trudeau fan, he's Lincoln, FDR and Churchill rolled into one compared with #47. I'll give him credit for his performance getting us through the pandemic and a few other policies, but he has a habit of committing needless gaffs. As for resigning, I don't know...he's pretty stubborn. He may try to ride it out.

If he doesn't resign, the NDP have stated they will join the Conservatives in a no confidence vote, which would defeat the government and trigger an election that the Liberals are almost guaranteed to lose. If he does resign, it'll trigger a Liberal party leadership campaign and the NDP may prop them up until an election is required in the Fall.


I expect that if/when the Conservatives are elected, Poilievre will provide an amply supply of "hold my beer" examples of beclowning himself.

There's no one to vote for in our up coming election. Poilieve has no plans for the country except trying to pass a non-confidence vote and remove the current government. The Bloc party I deem treasonist is trying to give the province of Quebec independence from Canada. In all my 63 years, I've not seen such a clusterf?ck with our politics.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Someone I have known since kindergarten posted this of Facebook-
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I replied with "And 160 countries don't have it."- who's at the top of the governments that aren't providing care for the people where this is happening? Let's rely on UNICEF- they can handle it, right?

Guess it's a step in the right direction. It's certainly better than randomguyyellingintothecameracomplainingthereisn'tavigilforCEO. Though I imagine when you say for-profit healthcare is the best choice you are rather saying for-profit is the best choice. So you bail and make up something or other and avoid asking questions. Plus I believe when you highlight United has the highest coverage turnaways than I think it doesn't really move the needle LOL.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Is 'Little George' getting his wrists slapped ?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/14/politics/trump-abc-news-defamation-lawsuit-settle/index.html

Disney, ABC News continue to take heat for massive Trump settlement: 'Low, low point'
Looks that way. Many suggestions that Disney gave up too easily though. It doesn't bode well for the future, as news media start to self-censure.

'We have to straighten out the press': Trump's plan to sue media critics into submission | CBC News

One global expert on free-speech called this a well-worn playbook used in autocratic countries: To sue, sue and keep suing, regardless of whether lawsuits have merit.

Winning the suit is almost beside the point, said Eric Heinze. What's key is to keep potential critics terrified of offending you, as it could result in ruinous legal fees.

"That's how autocrats work," said Heinze, law professor at the University of London, head of the Centre for Law, Democracy and Society, and author of a book about international lessons learned from free speech.

"Not by telling you how they're going to oppress you, but keeping you unclear about how or whether they will, or when they will. That's the secret of the autocrat. It's not clarity, it's vagueness."

The point of chilling the press, he said, is to make it financially risky for people to say things they know are perfectly legal.

 

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Guess it's a step in the right direction. It's certainly better than randomguyyellingintothecameracomplainingthereisn'tavigilforCEO. Though I imagine when you say for-profit healthcare is the best choice you are rather saying for-profit is the best choice. So you bail and make up something or other and avoid asking questions. Plus I believe when you highlight United has the highest coverage turnaways than I think it doesn't really move the needle LOL.

Where did you see me write those are the best choice? Were you replying to someone else?

 

[Dude#1279435]

Where did you see me write those are the best choice? Were you replying to someone else?

I replied with "And 160 countries don't have it."- who's at the top of the governments that aren't providing care for the people where this is happening? Let's rely on UNICEF- they can handle it, right?

I interpreted that as you're not a fan of universal healthcare, so what's left is either some kind of mixed system or what's in place, which is for-profit. Then bring out the caricatures in news to defend it by not saying it LOL. I felt at least you were implying universal healthcare isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Still more than the saynothings in news.

 

[Dude#1279435]

OK, but they haven't stopped traveling to those places and the Western hemisphere still hasn't had a case of polio since 1991, if that link is factual. But travel between far away places is one of the reasons the border needs to be more secure- immigrants weren't required to be tested for COVID AFAIK- if you can refute that, please do. We HAVE TO be able to stop diseases coming in- not necessarily the way they did it at Ellis Island (covered people with DDT), but I wonder if the first people to enter with COVID were symptomatic. OTOH, if they were in the early stages, they may have just said "It's a cold".

I'm not arguing against vaccines.

Bizarre take. You're not arguing against vax while simultaneously saying we don't need polio vax, I guess??? Not to mention polio vax to protect us from people coming into the country with polio.

 

[highfigh]

Bizarre take. You're not arguing against vax while simultaneously saying we don't need polio vax, I guess??? Not to mention polio vax to protect us from people coming into the country with polio.

You really need to read slower, or something. RFK jr said he's against it, I provided info about the last cases in the Western Hemisphere and where it's a current problem. That kind of shows my support since I didn't post anything about not supporting vaccines.

 

[highfigh]

I replied with "And 160 countries don't have it."- who's at the top of the governments that aren't providing care for the people where this is happening? Let's rely on UNICEF- they can handle it, right?

I interpreted that as you're not a fan of universal healthcare, so what's left is either some kind of mixed system or what's in place, which is for-profit. Then bring out the caricatures in news to defend it by not saying it LOL. I felt at least you were implying universal healthcare isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Still more than the saynothings in news.

The point you missed is that in 2024, 160 out of 193 countries haven't become developed more than they are. The US is too greedy to make it happen without causing financial ruin for many people because it's damned late in the game, at this point. Who's to blame? Doctors, health care facility owners, health care insurers, the FDA for their BS food tree and people, for not taking better care of themselves.

As little as I want to see government as the source for everything and to have total control, they should have looked at this as a way to help people continue to live, not lose everything due to a catastrophic illness or injury. They didn't and Wall Street is full of health care stocks and bonds.

 

[Dude#1279435]

The point you missed is that in 2024, 160 out of 193 countries haven't become developed more than they are. The US is too greedy to make it happen without causing financial ruin for many people because it's damned late in the game, at this point. Who's to blame? Doctors, health care facility owners, health care insurers, the FDA for their BS food tree and people, for not taking better care of themselves.

As little as I want to see government as the source for everything and to have total control, they should have looked at this as a way to help people continue to live, not lose everything due to a catastrophic illness or injury. They didn't and Wall Street is full of health care stocks and bonds.

You are or are not for universal healthcare?

 

[trochetier]

Disney, ABC News continue to take heat for massive Trump settlement: 'Low, low point'
Looks that way. Many suggestions that Disney gave up too easily though. It doesn't bode well for the future, as news media start to self-censure.

'We have to straighten out the press': Trump's plan to sue media critics into submission | CBC News

Tump is copy catting India and Modi government. BJP, Modi's party doesn't just go after news organization they go after individual reporters, Doxing, physical violence and even assasination in one case. Trump is behind by at least 10 years!

 

[trochetier]

The point you missed is that in 2024, 160 out of 193 countries haven't become developed more than they are. The US is too greedy to make it happen without causing financial ruin for many people because it's damned late in the game, at this point. Who's to blame? Doctors, health care facility owners, health care insurers, the FDA for their BS food tree and people, for not taking better care of themselves.

As little as I want to see government as the source for everything and to have total control, they should have looked at this as a way to help people continue to live, not lose everything due to a catastrophic illness or injury. They didn't and Wall Street is full of health care stocks and bonds.

It's the elected members' of both political parties who are in the pockets of the Pharma, Health Insurance, Pharmacy Benefit Manager lobbies. Us the American citizens are too uninformed, too lazy to lobby and demand action of our elected members of Congress. We think our responsibility end with voting.

 

[mtrycrafts]

A good time for universal health system?

 

[Mikado463]

A good time for universal health system?

will the fat assed, irresponsible Americans be covered ? I always get nervous when a liberal uses the word 'universal' , it will probably cost those of us that take personal responsibility seriously, even more !

 

[mtrycrafts]

will the fat assed, irresponsible Americans be covered ? I always get nervous when a liberal uses the word 'universal' , it will probably cost those of us that take personal responsibility seriously, even more !

Is that how it works in most of the industrial nations with such systems? Why does it cost less there, way less?

 

[Trell]

Is that how it works in most of the industrial nations with such systems? Why does it cost less there, way less?

Way, less and with much better health care outcome for the general population on many metrics.

The life expectancy of a US male is 73.5 years (from 2021 statistics used by Social Security for 2024), as one example. Quite bad and shows how broken the US health care system is.

You'll never convince him with statistics or rational arguments, though.

 

[Mikado463]

Way, less and with much better health care outcome for the general population on many metrics.

The life expectancy of a US male is 73.5 years (from 2021 statistics used by Social Security for 2024), as one example. Quite bad and shows how broken the US health care system is.

You'll never convince him with statistics or rational arguments, though.

As for your stats and rationale, why don't you break out the myriad of other underlying health concerns here in the US that contribute. Namely, like I mentioned earlier, obesity, diet and the list goes on.

I suppose part of my skepticism is furthering Gov't intervention in anything.

Oh well, let's get back to talking about your buddy 'Donnie' .......