old Polk rti 8 or Klipsch RF82

[zumbo]

Its people like you that do not state what your system is or for and then try to make it as if I was wrong....if you would have stated what your system is for like you did AFTER my post I would have not said that...period then end. With that being said....since you are using externals with gains and all that I can agree you wouldf not need the EQ but do NOT jump on somone before posting all your info I still disgaree with ya about the polks lets just enjoy the hobby man...it is almost X-mas OKAY?

Polks have a VERY muddy un-natural sound are not even in same league as klipsch. Pretty much a fact.

This second quote is post #9. You posted this before I ever replied to the thread. Once again, you need to be certain of your facts! Has 0 to do with what I own (_?_).

 

[zumbo]

In post #20

only issue I have with polk is a lot of the specs they list are not acurrate,

Which models did you measure? Can you list your measurements vs theirs?

 

[robc1976]

This second quote is post #9. You posted this before I ever replied to the thread. Once again, you need to be certain of your facts! Has 0 to do with what I own (_?_).

Okay the 2nd post I did not know you where referring to that becuase you did not quote it...you quoted my other response.

 

[robc1976]

In post #20


Which models did you measure? Can you list your measurements vs theirs?

Yeah, I keep measurenments of speakers I no longer have..come on man LOL!!

Here are the models I had for a 5.1 (the surrounds where a low grade model) but ther center had a LOT to be desired, the mains where okay speakers but I put the lowest reference series II Kilpsch RF-42II and it blue the polk away no contest.....the polks had 200 WPC going to them. I think for the power they need you can get something much better exspeacially at that price point. I was stating my opinion, if you love polks GREAT!! We ALL have different ears.

Models I had:

Rt800i
CS10
T15

 

[zumbo]

Yeah, I keep measurenments of speakers I no longer have..come on man LOL!![/B]

What tools/programs did you use for your measurement analysis to bring you to the conclusion that Polk Audio specs are inaccurate?

 

[LAB3]

Guess we ran the OP off!

He asked about two different brands of speakers. And not about your perfect system. I really got a good laugh about how a Eq. would ruin a speaker if you were not a sound engineer.... too funny.... in your 23 years of experience you came off as a bit of a know it all. No Eq no nothing.......then we find out you adjust with gain "pots" my dad and I did this 40 years ago on Klipschorns and a McIntosh amp. I'm off this thread.
It was good for a laugh.

Merry Christmas To All

Louis

 

[zumbo]

He asked about two different brands of speakers.

And I gave my opinion of which one I prefer, not which one was better based on false facts.

And not about your perfect system.

Described my system to give actual evidence of where I was coming from, instead of false fact that were being posted.

I really got a good laugh about how a Eq. would ruin a speaker if you were not a sound engineer.... too funny.... in your 23 years of experience

Any idiot can ruin a pair of speakers, with, or without an eq.

you came off as a bit of a know it all.

When someone posts false statements they claim to be fact, and I know they are full of poo, I will post a reply.

No Eq no nothing.......

That's right. A cd player, and two amps. Pure, and clean. No chance of noise from any inferior piece of equipment, because it isn't there.

then we find out you adjust with gain "pots" my dad and I did this 40 years ago on Klipschorns and a McIntosh amp. I'm off this thread.
It was good for a laugh.

Merry Christmas To All

Louis

You talk about Klipschorns as if they were your past, and yet you have Klipsch 1979 Cornwall as your mains in your current system.

 

[zumbo]

Yes, I did buy Denon Made In Japan amps from the 80's with old-school gains for under $300 each. Superior products compared to Chinese amps of today, IMO.

Posted as an opinion, just like my opinion of the speaker choice in question.

 

[zumbo]

Oh, and you have Klipsch Heresy II as well.

 

[zumbo]

And I am not knocking your speakers as a form of a pissing contest. I am clearly pointing-out the fact that what you and your dad owned "40 years ago" are the same type products you employ in both of your systems currently. So acting as-if my equipment is dated should be considered pointless.

And I am not here tooting my horn. I haven't even listed my HT. Was just trying to keep it simple, in a suggestive form of a 2-channel music-only application. That is clearly what the OP was asking for.

Post #1

For music only. Would a pair of 8 year old well worn Polk RTI 8 speakers be a more natural better sounding speaker than some Klipsch RF82's?..pretty new
Match to a Marantz PM6004 and CD6004

Like I said music only. The Klipsch just sound like crap right now. To harsh.
To much mid or something...I like my EQ set with bass and treble high and the mid is normally set below flat. This time around I have no EQ to add to my new system.

Post #9

Polks have a VERY muddy un-natural sound are not even in same league as klipsch. Pretty much a fact.

Post#10

Of the two, I pick the Polks. Some people are misinformed when it comes to facts.

Throw the EQ in the garbage. I am running the best sounding system I have ever owned with just a cd player. No receiver, no pre-amp, no bass, no treble, and damn sure no eq.

 

[zumbo]

He asked about two different brands of speakers.

And to be specific, he asked about two different models of speakers.(_?_)

 

[zumbo]

Here I am over 20 years ago playing with my EQ. Notice the 8-tack player on top of the rack. 8-track looks to say "The Best of ZZ TOP!" This wasn't my daddy's stereo, it was mine I earned flipping burgers @DQ. Built the audio rack in shop class. Been there, done that.

 

[derrickdj1]

Polks or Klipsch

There are a wealth of speaker companies, so the orignator of this post has a lot of choices available. Music systems are up to what the user likes, that is it. As far as what sounds close to the studio, is garbbage. You would have to duplicate the studio conditions in your home. Plus, all the studios use mixing engineers to tailor the sound, and adjust the cd or other source for the general public. So, even the artist and engineers change the sound to their liking. The arguments on this post are not becoming for mature people. Fourum members are suppose to give constructive respones. If anyone does not like a particular speaker or speaker company, don't buy it, peroid. Don't bash someone else's preference.

 

[zumbo]

There are a wealth of speaker companies, so the orignator of this post has a lot of choices available. Music systems are up to what the user likes, that is it. As far as what sounds close to the studio, is garbbage. You would have to duplicate the studio conditions in your home. Plus, all the studios use mixing engineers to tailor the sound, and adjust the cd or other source for the general public. So, even the artist and engineers change the sound to their liking. The arguments on this post are not becoming for mature people. Fourum members are suppose to give constructive respones. If anyone does not like a particular speaker or speaker company, don't buy it, peroid. Don't bash someone else's preference.

I read through the thread again, just to be sure. Didn't see anyone bashing a speaker brand.

One member posted a false "fact", along with his facts being supported by a follow-up post mentioning models not even related to the post.

Another fanboy came in to defend his brand, as if there were some form of brand bashing going-on. Has nothing to do with brands. The thread is about two models of speakers.

The "bashing" is about the use of an external EQ, which the OP clearly stated would not be in use.

So basically you have Klipsch fanboys getting their feathers ruffled. This has come and gone here since my joining in '04.

I can understand trying to use an EQ to attempt to make a speaker sound good. I used EQ's back in the 80's with my Cerwin Vega D7's. IMO, it's just better to pick a speaker that sounds good on it's own.

 

[robc1976]

So basically you have Klipsch fanboys getting their feathers ruffled. This has come and gone here since my joining in '04.

I am not a klipsch "fan boy" Wich is the reason I am upgrading to triad platinum LCR's but I am sure they suck to The reason I did not post my ,measurements is because like the thread above yours stated "it would have to be in a controlled enviroment and everyones room will be different (plus I don't have them LOL!!)...polk has been reviewed before I haven't searched on AVS to find the link where there stats/claims where found false...I did not bash polk I said INMHO they sound unatural and I agree I shouldn't have used the word "fact". What we have hear is a polk fanboy who is a know-it-all and post he doesn't need this doesn't need that and then another person calls him out on it and then he says "Oh I listen to 2 channel music".....that is called bait and switch. I am sure you will want the last word...I am unsubscribed from this thread, so post away

 

[zumbo]

I am not a klipsch "fan boy" Wich is the reason I am upgrading to triad platinum LCR's but I am sure they suck to The reason I did not post my ,measurements is because like the thread above yours stated "it would have to be in a controlled enviroment and everyones room will be different (plus I don't have them LOL!!)...polk has been reviewed before I haven't searched on AVS to find the link where there stats/claims where found false...I did not bash polk I said INMHO they sound unatural and I agree I shouldn't have used the word "fact". What we have hear is a polk fanboy who is a know-it-all and post he doesn't need this doesn't need that and then another person calls him out on it and then he says "Oh I listen to 2 channel music".....that is called bait and switch. I am sure you will want the last word...I am unsubscribed from this thread, so post away

Never said either speaker sucked.

I don't care for Polk. Never said I did. I chose between the two options(_?_).

The OP didn't ask what I liked/used, OP asked for an opinion between two models.

OP also clearly stated the EQ was out.

Then we have two members take it as if someone were bashing their equipment, or their personal set-up. All you have to do is read the whole thread again. Each word.

One member comes-in with their first post in the thread acting like I am psychic, as if I was talking about their personal system. Ridiculous.

 

[DenPureSound]

I just set my front pair of Klipsch RF-82II's aside for now, and replaced them with a pair of Def. Tech. BP7001SC SuperTowers -- finally got back my mid-range, and a full natural sound w/ the DT's, and along the way picked up two extra subs!

They are a lovely speaker (120#/ea.), and unfortunately discontinued, but some out there for sale used at around $1.8K per Pair. They will hang in there with some of the best for Classical or Rock or Blues, etc. To us they put us right into the London Symphony Orchestra front row!

If you have not heard a Def. Tech. speaker -- go listen to the Mythos ST speaker - that is the signature of sound, but a lot better w/ the 7XXX Series.

Not knocking Klipsch, as it took a lot more speaker to set them aside.