Newbie! Help please.

[Barron]

Tried to delete post because it was probably redundant and waste of time for most of you. Bottom line is I just don't know what is too big and what is just right for a ~1600 cubic foot room. My journey begins now so this will be enjoyable having two engineering backgrounds.

 

[lovinthehd]

How much research have you done among the articles here? https://www.audioholics.com/av-research

You'd generally plan for more than 2 years but then there's always the upgrade bug that can hit.

Concert level translates into what spl particularly? Just getting a higher powered avr may not cut it, you may need external amps, but will more depend on the particular speakers you choose. If you want the avr to power everything then higher sensitivity speakers will help, but you may still need external amplification for all your zone speakers. You'll have to shop for your own avr to meet all your requirements, but your budget may be too low. Why eARC? You plan on using a tv's apps for sources of audio particularly? 7.2 as in an avr that can separately manage two subs? If with immersive technology like Atmos then it would be 7.2.2 or 7.4.2 or ? Audyssey is a form of room correction/eq in some brands of avr (primarily Denon/Marantz), and also can do auto setup for levels/delays etc., but I wouldn't call it an audio customization feature. Have no idea what ALLM is myself. You might use an spl calculator like this to determine your needs http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Why would you think speakers have such a short life span as 5 years....if you really plan on abusing speakers they may not last a month but you normally can get 30-40 years out of speakers (maybe with foam surrounds that can rot not so much) without trying too hard. Might want to listen to various speakers to get an idea of what you want.

Couldn't help you with in wall or in ceiling speakers, have never interested me. Klipsch I've not purchased but the new RP series seems interesting.

A nice budget oriented outdoor speaker that sounds good I can recommend are these, I have used a pair for five years now out on my deck (but under an eave), https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-io655w-6-1-2-2-way-indoor-outdoor-speaker-pair-white--310-010.

Better subs start in the $400-500 each neighborhood.

Good luck!

 

[Barron]

How much research have you done among the articles here?

You'd generally plan for more than 2 years but then there's always the upgrade bug that can hit.

Concert level translates into what spl particularly? Just getting a higher powered avr may not cut it, you may need external amps, but will more depend on the particular speakers you choose. If you want the avr to power everything then higher sensitivity speakers will help, but you may still need external amplification for all your zone speakers. You'll have to shop for your own avr to meet all your requirements, but your budget may be too low. Why eARC? You plan on using a tv's apps for sources of audio particularly? 7.2 as in an avr that can separately manage two subs? If with immersive technology like Atmos then it would be 7.2.2 or 7.4.2 or ? Audyssey is a form of room correction/eq in some brands of avr (primarily Denon/Marantz), and also can do auto setup for levels/delays etc., but I wouldn't call it an audio customization feature. Have no idea what ALLM is myself. You might use an spl calculator like this to determine your needs

Why would you think speakers have such a short life span as 5 years....if you really plan on abusing speakers they may not last a month but you normally can get 30-40 years out of speakers (maybe with foam surrounds that can rot not so much) without trying too hard. Might want to listen to various speakers to get an idea of what you want.

Couldn't help you with in wall or in ceiling speakers, have never interested me. Klipsch I've not purchased but the new RP series seems interesting.

A nice budget oriented outdoor speaker that sounds good I can recommend are these, I have used a pair for five years now out on my deck (but under an eave),

Better subs start in the $400-500 each neighborhood.

Good luck!

Thank you for a lot of good questions that inspired me to go do some more researching before posting something on this site and making a purchase. Also thank you for adding a bit of clarity to each question, it was a helpful education. I've since purchased the Yamaha RX-A1080 AVR and Klipsch RP-8000F towers for the front speakers. I'm looking at the RSL Speedwoofer 10s now, possibly two. But I keep getting distracting by wireless vs. cable hook up (doesn't change the fact that i still want this sub). I started another thread on that subject. Check it out and respond if you have any insight please.

 

[shadyJ]

Thank you for a lot of good questions that inspired me to go do some more researching before posting something on this site and making a purchase. Also thank you for adding a bit of clarity to each question, it was a helpful education. I've since purchased the Yamaha RX-A1080 AVR and Klipsch RP-8000F towers for the front speakers. I'm looking at the RSL Speedwoofer 10s now, possibly two. But I keep getting distracting by wireless vs. cable hook up (doesn't change the fact that i still want this sub). I started another thread on that subject. Check it out and respond if you have any insight please.

Good stuff, yamaha, klipsch, and RSL, but those speakers are so adept in bass that I don't think particular sub can bring much to the table. It doesn't dig much deeper than those speakers. I would be looking for a subwoofer with significantly greater extension, i.e., it digs deeper. That sub is a better match for bookshelf speakers. Look for subwoofers that can dig below 20 Hz if you want something that could be significantly better than those speakers in the bass department.

 

[Barron]

Good stuff, yamaha, klipsch, and RSL, but those speakers are so adept in bass that I don't think particular sub can bring much to the table. It doesn't dig much deeper than those speakers. I would be looking for a subwoofer with significantly greater extension, i.e., it digs deeper. That sub is a better match for bookshelf speakers. Look for subwoofers that can dig below 20 Hz if you want something that could be significantly better than those speakers in the bass department.

Thank you for the feedback. Any suggestions on Subs digging below 20 Hz? Keep in mind I was looking at buying 2 RSLs. So budget can get up to $800.

 

[shadyJ]

Thank you for the feedback. Any suggestions on Subs digging below 20 Hz? Keep in mind I was looking at buying 2 RSLs. So budget can get up to $800.

Most of the subs from Outlaw Audio, Hsu Research, SVS, Monoprice Monolith can do that. You will want any of the ported subs with 12" woofers. Any of the ported subs from those brands with 12" or larger woofers dig down below 20 Hz.

 

[lovinthehd]

Thank you for the feedback. Any suggestions on Subs digging below 20 Hz? Keep in mind I was looking at buying 2 RSLs. So budget can get up to $800.

Keep in mind duals wouldn't go lower than a single sub, you're still limited by the sub's extension (gain in multiples would be mostly about smoothing more room modes, and a few dB gain in spl).