Newbie help on a budget system

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TastyBread

Audiophyte
After ready posts in this excellent forum for 4-5 hours I realize I'm completely clueless about home audio and am hoping some of you fine gents can help me out.

I recently bought a hdtv and now I want to buy a speaker system to get the most out of it. I don't have a strict budget but I'm looking at a $500-$750 price range right now.

From what I read a couple of the most popular choices for a budget systems are the Take Classic and the Behringer B2030P. I still need to figure out a subwoofer, and I'm assuming I need some kind of amp (or whatever the box is between the tv and speakers - sorry, complete newbie!!).

The room this is going in is about 20'x25' with a low wood ceiling and cement walls. I don't care about how the speakers look, I just want the best sound quality for my money. I also have a pc and a few game systems running through the tv so I would like something that will sound good all around (movies, games, music).

I'm looking for suggestions on a complete setup. Thanks for your help!
 
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FNG212

Audioholic
Welcome to the forum.

If you can swing the higher end of that price range I would suggest a basic level receiver (other people can help with that, I don't have much experience with them other than to say that they exist) and a system like the Energy Take Classic 5.1 or either a kit or piecemeal from www.thespeakercompany.com

I have a couple different tSc speakers and really like them.

Hope this gets the ball rolling.
 
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diegs

Junior Audioholic
To stick within your stated budget for your size room I would check out The Speaker Company T series home theater packages with the tsbl's. They run $350 to $450 shipped right now and are well reviewed.
For the receiver aka the box in the middle of the tv and speakers, a denon 1709 from ecost for $200 has plenty of connections and power. You'll need speaker wire and audio/video cables. Go to monoprice.com for cables.
I've bought 2 refurb denon receivers from ecost and was very satisfied. Have fun researching and shopping. Good luck.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
I'm not as knowledgeable as most around here, but I can tell you that you will want a A/V receiver as opposed to a stand-alone amplifier. It will tie in all your game systems into one unit where you can just switch the picture and audio with the push of a button, and it will power your speakers also. What receiver you will want will depend on the features you desire and the kind of speakers you intend to get. If you want power hungry speakers you will need a receiver with more watts per channel. If you watch blu-ray discs, you have to get an AVR that will accommodate that type of signal, and so on.

Accessories4less.com has very good deals on receivers, as does Amazon.

Personally, if I were in your position, I would spend about 350 to 400 on a receiver, and the rest on a decent pair of Left and Right front speakers, and then save money later on to build up your system a piece at a time (in the order of a subwoofer, center channel speaker, and then surrounds). But if you are in a hurry to get a home theater right away, there maybe some acceptable HTIB (Home Theater In a Box) wherein you buy the whole system in one package.

The reason why I would just buy a receiver for now and only two front speakers is because, for me, two (or even one) good speakers sound a lot better than a whole bunch of so-so ones. And, on top of that, selecting and shopping for the different parts of the rest of your system is fun (especially the subwoofer part). And seriously,the subwoofer in any HTIB is bound to be lacking, especially once you hear superior systems.

Some inexpensive speaker suggestions for the fronts I would give are the Infinity Primus p362 tower speakers, or, if you don't have room for towers, the HSU HB-1 mk2 bookshelf speakers. Either would be ideal, as they sound fantastic and are very power efficient so even inexpensive receivers can drive them well. A quick search on ebay brings up a buy-it-now deal on a pair of p362s for only $207 with free shipping, which is a outstanding deal! The HSU speakers are available from hsuresearch.com for $150 a piece, and $30 for shipping. I have both which is why I can recommend them, and a pair of either one will blow away any equivalently priced HTIBs.

But there are a lot of great speakers out there that will fit your budget, those are just the ones I personally know about, and I am sure you will get lots of great suggestions here. And whatever you decide on, come back here to get suggestions on how to set it up, because a improperly configured system is a lot of money wasted, and you have a vast amount of free knowledge at your disposal here.
 
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TastyBread

Audiophyte
Thanks for your suggestions. I've been reading up on them and it's looking like a win-win though I kind of like the idea of getting less, better, speakers and expanding later (I would definitely like to get a woofer now though).

On the receiver; My current tv has plenty of inputs for all my systems / pc / and then some. Is there a benefit to running all my systems through the receiver instead? My tv also has optical out so I thought I could save some money by getting a receiver just for audio. Again, I know very little about receivers so I don't know if that makes sense.
 
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diegs

Junior Audioholic
Usually the optical out on the tv is ONLY for digital audio from over the air broadcast television. I'm not sure what tv you have but when using an antenna to watch hd broadcast, your tv has the option of outputting the audio via the tv optical out. Over the air hd programming is usually in 5.1 and that's why the optical out is on the tv.
Even though your tv has a ton of inputs, think of it as a monitor. Most home theaters have ever thing(all audio and video sources) connected to the receiver and just one video out connection from the receiver to the tv.
For example my setup has a hd-dvd and cable box connected to the receiver with one hdmi cable each. Hdmi handles audio and video. The Wii is connected to the receiver via component cable for video and composite (red and white) for sound. One hdmi connection from the receiver to the tv for video. The receiver is the brain's and handles all audio and video processing, even converting the wii to hd. Hdmi is really great, having just one cable makes setup so much easier and organized.
I'm all for you to consider 300 to 400 on a decent receiver with hd audio processing. If you have bluray or hd-dvd... Truehd and dtshd and dolby digital plus are amazing. Plus the upgrade bug will not bite so soon.
Onkyo, denon, yamaha or pioneer would all be great receiver brands to look into.
So many speaker brands are decent and affordable. It's tough to even suggest one over the other. What I can say is most companies offer a discount when buying a whole set and that may be the best way to go. Most products bought from ebay do not carry the manufacture's warranty and can not easily be returned. Read the auctions carefully.
 
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TastyBread

Audiophyte
OK, first of all thank you for your advice, and for pointing me in the right direction.

After further research I'm looking at getting the Onkyo TX-SR507 receiver ($344 newegg & amazon) and am trying to decide between a few different speaker sets and am hoping one of you can push one to the top of the list for me. They are as follows:

Energy 5.1 Take Classic - $400
TSBLT-HT from tSc - $500
Polk - $620
- PSW10 Subwoofer
- CSM Two-way center
- Monitor 60 Floorstanding loudspeaker Pair
- Monitor 40 Two-way bookshelf loudspeaker Pair

Thanks again!
 
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jamie2112

Banned
TSC has a free 30 day in home trial which is hard to beat.....
 
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TastyBread

Audiophyte
Forgive my ADD, but now I'm thinking about just blowing my budget and getting the TST3-HT package from tSc. Will the Onkyo TX-SR507 receiver be good enough to get the most out of those speakers?
 
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TastyBread

Audiophyte
It is finished... I went with the TST3-HT package. Now I play the waiting game.

Thanks once again. The forums and reviews were a huge help.
 
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diegs

Junior Audioholic
Great choices... I think you will be very happy with your setup. Don't forget about cables and wire. If have questions during the setup come back and ask. Many onkyo folks and other audio experts floating around here to help you through any snafu's.
When you're up and rolling please give us a review!
I know you blew your budget, but keep an eye out for a deal on a harmony remote, its the icing on the cake and makes all the components super easy to operate together.
Good luck let us know how things are going with the system.
 

captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
Congrats on the new system! Make sure you post pictures and let us know what you think when you get them. We like pictures:D
 

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