New sub for 10x10 music room?

[otto2008]

Didn't OP say though the Bic sounds good everywhere he places it? Generally, square rooms are awful, but flexible walls can definitely change that. Unless your room is made of concrete or hard plaster, it's generally a crapshoot what will happen. The dayton 1500 is large no doubt, but for a $200 subwoofer, it digs deep and get very very loud even in a medium to large room.

If you like how the single f12 sounds, and it really does sound good all around the room, go for a single 1500. If you have bass problems, you'd be better off using multiple smaller subs placed strategically around the room, in fact, four subs directly at each wall midpoint would do a good job cancelling out most of the bass problems.

You didn't say what genre of music you mostly listen to, but that will ultimately dictate how much extension you need. A majority of music doesn't reach much below 35-40hz, hence why I notice no difference bypassing my sub and using just my speakers, so in some cases, extension is less important.

The sub 1200 is literally just a smaller version of the 1500, and depending on the room, will reach 25hz vs 23hz for the 1500, two of them would cost you $300, and combined would have the same or larger surface area and power of the 1500.

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Music , metal, rock , alternative..some old school rap....Rush's Tom Sawyer..i want to feel the kick drum in my chest...but i don't feel it wit the 1 BIC..boomy like....where ever i place the sub, same thing in rap...boomy bass..unless I can wait a bit and bump my budget up to $800 max for 2 or 1 sub...anyway thx for all of ur input !!!

 

[otto2008]

Didn't OP say though the Bic sounds good everywhere he places it? Generally, square rooms are awful, but flexible walls can definitely change that. Unless your room is made of concrete or hard plaster, it's generally a crapshoot what will happen. The dayton 1500 is large no doubt, but for a $200 subwoofer, it digs deep and get very very loud even in a medium to large room.

If you like how the single f12 sounds, and it really does sound good all around the room, go for a single 1500. If you have bass problems, you'd be better off using multiple smaller subs placed strategically around the room, in fact, four subs directly at each wall midpoint would do a good job cancelling out most of the bass problems.

You didn't say what genre of music you mostly listen to, but that will ultimately dictate how much extension you need. A majority of music doesn't reach much below 35-40hz, hence why I notice no difference bypassing my sub and using just my speakers, so in some cases, extension is less important.

The sub 1200 is literally just a smaller version of the 1500, and depending on the room, will reach 25hz vs 23hz for the 1500, two of them would cost you $300, and combined would have the same or larger surface area and power of the 1500.

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Music , metal, rock , alternative..some old school rap....Rush's Tom Sawyer..i want to feel the kick drum in my chest...but i don't feel it wit the 1 BIC..boomy like....where ever i place the sub, same thing in rap...boomy bass..unless I can wait a bit and bump my budget up to $800 max for 2 or 1 sub...anyway thx for all of ur input !!!

 

[otto2008]

There are a lot of potential solutions, but the one thing we seem to easily do is forget to look at the most basic first. Learning about sound is the most fundamental way we can improve our systems... sometimes for free.

Yepimonfire, I both agree and disagree with you... friendly, though! I prefer the non-symmetrical Geddes-style placement more, as opposed to symmetrical. And my limited understanding is that you want to excite as many room MODES as possible to even out the bass response. That's, at least to my understanding, how you overcome cancellation from standing waves. If I am wrong, please help me understand better. I came to this forum to learn, afterall.

And for all the cool cats that have helped me, I now want to be able to guide others along the path to audio bliss!

Cheers!

Music , metal, rock , alternative..some old school rap....Rush's Tom Sawyer..i want to feel the kick drum in my chest...but i don't feel it wit the 1 BIC..boomy like....where ever i place the sub, same thing in rap...boomy bass..unless I can wait a bit and bump my budget up to $800 max for 2 or 1 sub...anyway thx for all of ur input !!!

 

[otto2008]

Music , metal, rock , alternative..some old school rap....Rush's Tom Sawyer..i want to feel the kick drum in my chest...but i don't feel it wit the 1 BIC..boomy like....where ever i place the sub, same thing in rap...boomy bass..unless I can wait a bit and bump my budget up to $800 max for 2 or 1 sub...anyway thx for all of ur input !!!

 

[lovinthehd]

Might also consider that your speakers and receiver are part of the equation. I just looked up your receiver, you don't have a 4.1 setup (which makes it sound as if you have a surround setup with a phantom center channel) as it's only a 2ch receiver. Just how did you incorporate the sub and have you tried just running two speakers? Why the second pair of 2ch speakers?

ps If you have the RX-A700 then you might include if you've run YPAO, what crossover you're using, etc.

 

[Bucknekked]

Hi all-

Currently running Yamaha RX 700 receiver, w/ Polk monitor 40s and a BIC f12 sub for a 4.1 system

I feel like the BIC is working in this room no matter how i tune or place it. It'd a small room but looking for a better sub for about $400.

RSL Speedwoofer, Dayton 1500 , and possibly SVS pb 1000??

Thanks !

I have essentially the same sized room (10x10x10 with a bump out closet and a little doorway. Square rooms are tough as everyone has noted. I spent a great deal of time getting my room to sound great. And you can get a room to sound pretty great if you spend enough time on it and accept the limitations it will present.

For me, the biggest limitation is the sweet spot is just big enough for one person in the listening chair. I can live with that because in this setup, its my private listening room. Keep on experimenting. hope it all works out.
I went with a new Monolith sub and enjoy the heck out of it. just an FYI