New Speakers to Choose

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Now you know the real reason I sold all my Definitive Tech speakers (BP7000SC, BP7001SC, CLR3000, SC Trinity).

There is a lot of bashing towards Definitive Tech, Golden-Ear, B&W, and Paradigm. With the exception of Paradigm, most of the bashing is towards speakers that don't measure very well with on-axis and off-axis frequency responses, including Magnepan, Martin Logan, Totem, ZU Audio, Wilson Audio, etc.

Regardless of measurment, I think the DT BP7000SC & BP7001SC are very good sounding speakers. I think Sandy Gross's Triton towers are also good sounding.

all i I know when we listened to towers with the proper amplification in a room that was set up to listen to music the Triton 2 sung. Oh sure we also listen to Wilson, Paradigm B&W and Magicos but chose the Tritons not based on cost but based on sound. Not to mention the measure pretty decent. Not to mention the wife did not want 2 extra " boxes/ subs" setting around in the family room.

People like what they like heck I still enjoy my old Kef 104/2 but unless a person actually has listened to the speakers that have been set up properly they really miss the boat. Going to a "store" listening to speakers jammed next to other speakers against a wall is not the way to audition speakers.

 

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Going to a "store" listening to speakers jammed next to other speakers against a wall is not the way to audition speakers.

I go to a lot of high end audio shops and listen to gear as a hobby, I don't think I have ever been in a place where they just plug in a speaker and let you listen while its on the line... The line up is to see them all not to hear them. In the shops I have been in if you are interested in hearing a speaker they pull it out, position it for you, listen to it first, and then have you sit down...
I remember a shop in New Jersey {woodbridge audio on rt35 for the locals down there}, I went there with my brother to buy a used mc integrated amp, got an awesome deal on it, and we listened to a ton of speakers while we were there, the guys in there were super nice, they knew we weren't there for speakers {in a 2 door BMW, we weren't holding anymore than the amp, lol}, and they setup a couple systems let us have the run of the place... That is how it is in almost all the shops I have gone to...
I have been to places {one in California sticks in my mind} where they give you a room, then bring in what you want to hear, the floor was marked with colored lines and each speaker had the corresponding color on it, which was also nice so you could see where a speakers "sweet" spot was in relation with outside walls, so if you seen where the maggies sat and new your room couldn't handle that position comfortably you wouldn't listen to them...

Now I have also been to best buy, and other places where you hit the button on the wall and the speakers are all just where ever they fit, but that is where the old adage "you get what you pay for" comes in...

I am going to Lexington Massachusets tomorrow Ill bet on the way back I find time to stop in and see my friends at Goodwins High End {they are in Waltham}to take a listen to something, I am thinking maybe some magico speakers {they seem to love them, I have heard a few of them, a couple sets there and never super impressed}...

But anyway, in most cases you can get a good idea of what a speaker sounds like in a good store, BUT you need to take them home because them stores are normally treated rooms, and unless you are duplicating that or making it better, than you may be disappointed when you get home...

 

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I go to a lot of high end audio shops and listen to gear as a hobby, I don't think I have ever been in a place where they just plug in a speaker and let you listen while its on the line... The line up is to see them all not to hear them. In the shops I have been in if you are interested in hearing a speaker they pull it out, position it for you, listen to it first, and then have you sit down...
I remember a shop in New Jersey {woodbridge audio on rt35 for the locals down there}, I went there with my brother to buy a used mc integrated amp, got an awesome deal on it, and we listened to a ton of speakers while we were there, the guys in there were super nice, they knew we weren't there for speakers {in a 2 door BMW, we weren't holding anymore than the amp, lol}, and they setup a couple systems let us have the run of the place... That is how it is in almost all the shops I have gone to...
I have been to places {one in California sticks in my mind} where they give you a room, then bring in what you want to hear, the floor was marked with colored lines and each speaker had the corresponding color on it, which was also nice so you could see where a speakers "sweet" spot was in relation with outside walls, so if you seen where the maggies sat and new your room couldn't handle that position comfortably you wouldn't listen to them...

Now I have also been to best buy, and other places where you hit the button on the wall and the speakers are all just where ever they fit, but that is where the old adage "you get what you pay for" comes in...

I am going to Lexington Massachusets tomorrow Ill bet on the way back I find time to stop in and see my friends at Goodwins High End {they are in Waltham}to take a listen to something, I am thinking maybe some magico speakers {they seem to love them, I have heard a few of them, a couple sets there and never super impressed}...

But anyway, in most cases you can get a good idea of what a speaker sounds like in a good store, BUT you need to take them home because them stores are normally treated rooms, and unless you are duplicating that or making it better, than you may be disappointed when you get home...

Enjoy Goodwins, If they have the S5's give those 195 lbs beast of all-aluminum enclosure a try..

Agree, one will never know how a speaker, any speaker will sound until it's in your room, with your equipment. Every speaker I have every auditioned I did so in my home after I got really interested in the speaker.

 

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Agree with above comments about auditioning speakers, your home audio room is the best place to judge sound quality because that's the room you live with. That being said, going to a good Audio/Visual shop also has it's advantages of weeding out some brands that don't sound good in ideal room conditions

When I tested out the Triton Ones, they were set up properly and positioned directly to where I was sitting with enough distance and proper angle. I got to choose the type of music I listened too, and did so for about 45 minutes. Blown away being the key factor in buying them. Detail, responsive and accurate bass and clarity. Not a hard choice. If they were in a row of other speakers, I might not have had the same impression. You can't jam these next to other speakers or in the corner of a wall because it defeats the purpose of the integrated subs.

In the same respect, I did compare my Studio 100s next to Revel F206 in one shop that probably wasn't set up the best and felt the Paradigm's had better bass response, with a slightly less detailed midrange than the F206.

Then there is best buy.....room full of equipment, no sound treatments and no way to judge quality. Though I will say the Magnolia stores in Best Buy, specifically one store near me looks much more like a high end audio store. They even started to carry brands like McIntosh, higher end B&W, oppo players, which I have never seen at a retail store.

 

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After I did some research on the Triton 3s vs the 7s, I still recommend the 7s with a separate sub as I suggested in your beginners foum post on the same topic.

I have a Triton Three pair. Curious, are the 7s being rated better because of the additional midrange driver? Or is some other variable at play here.