New cable with magic properties

[steevo]

Check out this new cable, a snake oil salesman if ever there was one, he refuses to publish the R C L parameters for his cable apparrently afraid that someone might steal the values, and has a patent pending for the cable god only know what that is for. The guy that designed this cable the magical audio properties is Colin Wonfor from a company called Tellurium Q home, its worth a laugh I suppose. Check it out.

 

[lsiberian]

Check out this new cable, a snake oil salesman if ever there was one, he refuses to publish the R C L parameters for his cable apparrently afraid that someone might steal the values, and has a patent pending for the cable god only know what that is for. The guy that designed this cable the magical audio properties is Colin Wonfor from a company called Tellurium Q home, its worth a laugh I suppose. Check it out.

This premise has already been well established, but it's good to remind those new to the forum. Copper is copper.

 

[FirstReflection]

It's amazing that with so much scientific fact readily available on the internet that there are still so many people who fall for this sort of ridiculous cable magic nonsense. It was one thing when the facts weren't widely known or easy to find. But these days? C'mon. You basically have to be willfully ignorant to believe these sorts of claims.

 

[slipperybidness]

We are morally obligated to separate a fool and his money!

 

[mtrycrafts]

...and has a patent pending for the cable god only know what that is for.

Well, it isn't for technical aspects, that is for sure It is for other reasons. Blue Jeans was sued by Monster for the same reasons, design of the way the cable looks, decorated with stuff, nothing to do with its electrical properties.

I looked for the price but must have missed it The graphs he has is silly, really. Interconnect cables react to capacitance, the higher the worse that square wave looks and more loss you can have at the higher frequencies. The other graph with the frequency loss is also silly. The worst cable has a .4 dB loss at 20kHz? I am willing to bet he cannot hear 20 kHz Nor can most of us. AND, the JND at 16kHz is around 3 dB spl.
ps. This JND is with a very sensitive test tone, not music, another factor.

 

[Colin Wonfor]

Now with the past success of Tellurium Q and all those that said it was snake oil, well the snake oil and silly prices was not set by me, but by the remaining directors of this company.
The specs were not published because G.M. (director) never understood why they sounded good he just cared about the $$$ signs.
Now I no longer own or work for the company I started to make a new design and have made much needed improvements on my designs without the having to justify why I wanted to change the designs based on profit.
The new cable is Cu based and a 0.25 of the the price a least of TQ.
Now you can criticise that, go boys go.

 

[highfigh]

Now with the past success of Tellurium Q and all those that said it was snake oil, well the snake oil and silly prices was not set by me, but by the remaining directors of this company.
The specs were not published because G.M. (director) never understood why they sounded good he just cared about the $$$ signs.
Now I no longer own or work for the company I started to make a new design and have made much needed improvements on my designs without the having to justify why I wanted to change the designs based on profit.
The new cable is Cu based and a 0.25 of the the price a least of TQ.
Now you can criticise that, go boys go.

If you can justify charging even 1/4 of the price for the Black Diamond Waveform HF Digital RCA cable, I'd like to see the details. Their price of £900/meter is astounding, really.

 

[3db]

We are morally obligated to separate a fool and his money!

As long as the funds end up in my pocket.

 

[Darenwh]

We are morally obligated to separate a fool and his money!

Sorry but this fool's money is staying in his pocket. Wife sees to that...

 

[Colin Wonfor]

If you can justify charging even 1/4 of the price for the Black Diamond Waveform HF Digital RCA cable, I'd like to see the details. Their price of £900/meter is astounding, really.

Sorry I am not making cables for digitak lies just analog.

Oh the Wave form had a active speed up circuit inside it and PSU filtering, and the patents was offered free to anybody, so make you own.

 

[lovinthehd]

Whut?

 

[jinjuku]

Now with the past success of Tellurium Q and all those that said it was snake oil, well the snake oil and silly prices was not set by me, but by the remaining directors of this company.
The specs were not published because G.M. (director) never understood why they sounded good he just cared about the $$$ signs.
Now I no longer own or work for the company I started to make a new design and have made much needed improvements on my designs without the having to justify why I wanted to change the designs based on profit.
The new cable is Cu based and a 0.25 of the the price a least of TQ.
Now you can criticise that, go boys go.

Anyone can design something to sound/look/feel/be different and then market that difference.

You just let me know when I can come out with some Belden and control for your sighted bias. We can capture a video of this and use it on your website for marketing purposes as the only honest purveyor of esoteric cabling out there.

 

[highfigh]

Sorry I am not making cables for digitak lies just analog.

Oh the Wave form had a active speed up circuit inside it and PSU filtering, and the patents was offered free to anybody, so make you own.

I'll pass. I went to an engineering school and learned to find info about technical topics and when I discuss this stuff with some of my friends who are electrical engineers, they look at me as if I have three heads and a horn sticking out of one of the foreheads.

A "speed up circuit" for audio signal? Why? It gets there fast enough.

 

[Colin Wonfor]

"A "speed up circuit" for audio signal? Why? It gets there fast enough."

No it is digital O and 1 plus crap not analogue. Check edges, over shoot, ringing to name a few.
Oh and 0.5C(V*V) for stored energy thus time to fill and empty the bucket.

Lets face it 50yrs ago we as students were told that telephone line bandwidth could only be 5KHz whoops that was wrong and before that the Earth was flat, yes still true in some minds.
Our kids here in the UK were told by teachers that the Adder a snake was not poisonous, poop wrong again.

So stop closing you minds and question your teachers they are not always correct. The passing on of knowledge is like a story and over the years bits get added and removed and facts are the same not every teacher passes on correct facts just the small bit he or she understands.

Oh you can buy blindfolds on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-EYE-MASK-sleep-blindfold-sleeping-eyemask-/350203809473

 

[Speedskater]

We have all heard those 'bees can't fly' type of stories, way too many times!
Yet major bulk cable manufactures have had the skill and expensive equipment to make the best cables for a long time.
Manufactures like Belden, Canare and Mogami.

 

[highfigh]

"A "speed up circuit" for audio signal? Why? It gets there fast enough."

No it is digital O and 1 plus crap not analogue. Check edges, over shoot, ringing to name a few.
Oh and 0.5C(V*V) for stored energy thus time to fill and empty the bucket.

Lets face it 50yrs ago we as students were told that telephone line bandwidth could only be 5KHz whoops that was wrong and before that the Earth was flat, yes still true in some minds.
Our kids here in the UK were told by teachers that the Adder a snake was not poisonous, poop wrong again.

So stop closing you minds and question your teachers they are not always correct. The passing on of knowledge is like a story and over the years bits get added and removed and facts are the same not every teacher passes on correct facts just the small bit he or she understands.

Oh you can buy blindfolds on ebay


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-EYE-MASK-sleep-blindfold-sleeping-eyemask-/350203809473

The 5KHz bandwidth wasn't a matter of only what could be done, it's what's needed for speech intelligibility for people with "normal" hearing. Go in for a hearing test and ask about the range they use- it has increased to 8KHz, but they are less concerned with our ability to hear the full 20H-20KHz range than being able to understand what is spoken.

And how does the DAC deal with ringing and overshoot? By ignoring it, to the extent that it can.

If your teachers said that Adders aren't poisonous, they were correct. If they had said they're non-venomous, they were either uninformed or lying. There's a difference- maybe they were making sure the kids knew the difference.

You might be surprised by the methods that actually work well for sending digital audio from one place to another without glitches. Have you installed equipment throughout buildings, or just in the general area of the equipment? If only the latter, you should discuss this with people who do larger installations. Oh, right- I do that and if you really want to know the truth, people who listen to cables are a royal PITA because there's no way to satisfy them.

In that light, care to explain this?
"Sorry I am not making cables for digitak lies just analog."

What part of England?

 

[jinjuku]

"A "speed up circuit" for audio signal? Why? It gets there fast enough."

No it is digital O and 1 plus crap not analogue. Check edges, over shoot, ringing to name a few.
Oh and 0.5C(V*V) for stored energy thus time to fill and empty the bucket.

Sounds like you are describing how to get a good Eye Pattern. We have ways to check this and cable that meets spec will ensure that SI stability is maintained. It's why IEEE bodies come up with spec.

Can you list your validation equipment or what labs you send out your product to for validation?

 

[TLS Guy]

What part of England?

Probably a Chav from Chatham!

 

[speakerman39]

Probably a Chav from Chatham!

I bet he has a magic wand too......LOL!!!! Or, perhaps it is voodoo...........NOT! What a load of crap!! Maybe his cables are shiny .........ugh!


Cheers,

Phil

 

[Bucknekked]

Anyone can design something to sound/look/feel/be different and then market that difference.

You just let me know when I can come out with some Belden and control for your sighted bias. We can capture a video of this and use it on your website for marketing purposes as the only honest purveyor of esoteric cabling out there.

jinjuku
I know you are one of the vanguard members dealing with cable claims of exceptional abilities.
Perhaps you have missed some of the exceptional abilities because you treat cables from vendors like
Terrlurium Q like straight pieces of wire. On their website, these cables are able to organically learn their tasks once they are plugged in. They learn what to do after they are part of a system.

I can't make this stuff up. Right from the Tellurium Q website:

Are Tellurium Q Cables Directional?
Tellurium Q® speaker cables do not start out directional but we have noticed that they tend to exhibit “directionality” once burnt in. This is especially true for the higher level cables so we have arrows on these cables indicating direction. You should set up your system so that the arrows always point away from the source, i.e. DAC, Turntable, CD player etc through the amplifier towards the speakers or headphones.

Its one thing to make directional claims right out of the box. Its quite another step to claim the learn directionality by being burnt in.