Netflix from tv to denon 6400

[everettT]

It worked somewhat

Reset TV Reset AVR Do the connection and it worked. Few minutes then the audio is lost

Repeat the Reset TV/AVR it worked again.... Had did it atleast 5 times now...

Point is ARC works. But its not consistent. Maybe Samsung is doing this... not sure.

Thanks again..

PKF

So the point is ARC dosent work.

 

[pradeep981]

So the point is ARC dosent work.

Maybe Sir...

 

[PENG]

So the point is ARC dosent work.

Thank you for the feedback. That shows the settings are good because it worked for a few minutes. The fact that it would drop the signal indicated that it could be a HDMI compatibility issue between the TV and AVR.

Are the firmware of both units up to date? There is probably nothing you can do other than making sure your HDMI cable itself is not the issue. At least you can hook up the optical or coax to get the TV Audio.

 

[highfigh]

This is the reason I think TVs should be a simple display when speakers and a tuner aren't needed. That way, the AVR does the video and audio switching & routing, the TV just sits there, looking pretty. No extra cables, no smart features, no BS, just reliability. If an amplified sound bar is used, an optical feed is all it should need from the TV and since it's close, it works better.

 

[highfigh]

Again thank you for the knowledge. I really appreciate you taking the time. I actually left the optical cable ran through the wall and tie wrapped along the hdmi. I just disconnected it from the TV and never hooked it up to the new AVR. I guess I'll have to do that since nothing seems to work. And now here's to hoping it works with the optical cable I have.
Theres no such thing is a high speed optical cable is there? I have a 6ft cable so length shouldn't be a problem but the cable I have now is at least 10 years old. Would i need a new or special one?

And maybe I will go with the roku box in the long run.

No, there's no 'High Speed' optical cable, just as there's no 'High Speed' HDMI, but the 4K/HDR/Full color gamut HDMI need to handle extremely high frequencies and that's the reason long copper wire cables don't work for the full boat HD signal.

The one thing you need to know about optical is that you don't ever want to bend it tightly or kink it. That will stop the signal transmission immediately or make it intermittent.

 

[PENG]

This is the reason I think TVs should be a simple display when speakers and a tuner aren't needed. That way, the AVR does the video and audio switching & routing, the TV just sits there, looking pretty. No extra cables, no smart features, no BS, just reliability. If an amplified sound bar is used, an optical feed is all it should need from the TV and since it's close, it works better.

ARC does seem to be a hit and miss thing for a lot of people based on what I read on forums. In my opinion there is no reason why they can't make it easier to set up and work consistently, and I believe that could well be the case in the 2020 models if not 2019. Bandwidth is no longer an issue, the Apps are useful as it saves many people from having to spend extra money on additional devices/hookups such as Roku, AppleTV and many others. I have an AppleTV, but for certain apps I like the ones on the Sony TV better, so now I have choices. I also almost bought the Roku Ultra when it was on sale, but since I upgraded/downgraded from the old Pioneer Kuro Elite to the new (2017) Sony, I have no such need any more, and ARC has been working fine, 99.9% anyway.

 

[highfigh]

ARC does seem to be a hit and miss thing for a lot of people based on what I read on forums. In my opinion there is no reason why they can't make it easier to set up and work consistently, and I believe that could well be the case in the 2020 models if not 2019. Bandwidth is no longer an issue, the Apps are useful as it saves many people from having to spend extra money on additional devices/hookups such as Roku, AppleTV and many others. I have an AppleTV, but for certain apps I like the ones on the Sony TV better, so now I have choices. I also almost bought the Roku Ultra when it was on sale, but since I upgraded/downgraded from the old Pioneer Kuro Elite to the new (2017) Sony, I have no such need any more, and ARC has been working fine, 99.9% anyway.

If you talk to people who might get a trouble call because something doesn't work, you'll find a lot of people who NEVER use ARC in the field. I don't use CEC for other peoples' systems unless they have a TV and a Roku or AppleTV and I have mine set up that way, but I would never use it in a system that is complex and has a universal remote.

 

[snakeeyes]

Considering that TVs are thousands of dollars and dedicated streaming boxes are around $100, it may seem annoying but it’s not highway robbery. Also most UHD and regular BD players have Netflix at least.

I know many Denon owners do have ARC working.

I’m in the Yamaha camp with a Samsung tv and my ARC does work as well.

 

[Montucky]

If you talk to people who might get a trouble call because something doesn't work, you'll find a lot of people who NEVER use ARC in the field. I don't use CEC for other peoples' systems unless they have a TV and a Roku or AppleTV and I have mine set up that way, but I would never use it in a system that is complex and has a universal remote.

Yup! In fact, I always carried optical cables in bulk, so I just always planned on tossing in a cable on most installs no matter what. Cost me like $2/piece and saved me (and the customers) a world of headache. Optical's just so much more foolproof, and it's nice that the cables are dirt cheap these days so why not?!

I do like ARC-CEC WHEN it all works as advertised, but after too many calls that it magically stopped working, I just started going optical most every time. NEVER had a phone call due to an optical cable. Haha.

On my current bedroom setup, I have a TCL Roku TV paired with a Yamaha AVR, and ARC works perfectly and as intended. However, I still threw in an optical just in case when I set it up. Haha. I still don't trust it 100%. Blows my mind that the industry never settled on a uniform standard. Seems like it should be so easy. The tech is sound and actually quite simple. Too bad all the manufacturers insist on going about it their own way.

 

[highfigh]

Yup! In fact, I always carried optical cables in bulk, so I just always planned on tossing in a cable on most installs no matter what. Cost me like $2/piece and saved me (and the customers) a world of headache. Optical's just so much more foolproof, and it's nice that the cables are dirt cheap these days so why not?!

I do like ARC-CEC WHEN it all works as advertised, but after too many calls that it magically stopped working, I just started going optical most every time. NEVER had a phone call due to an optical cable. Haha.

On my current bedroom setup, I have a TCL Roku TV paired with a Yamaha AVR, and ARC works perfectly and as intended. However, I still threw in an optical just in case when I set it up. Haha. I still don't trust it 100%. Blows my mind that the industry never settled on a uniform standard. Seems like it should be so easy. The tech is sound and actually quite simple. Too bad all the manufacturers insist on going about it their own way.

It's not the manufacturers, it's the HDMI Consortium, who decided it was in their interest that nobody be able to copy the crappy movies coming out of Hollyweird and we're forced to deal with it, as if people who copy in high volume would even do that in a one on one manner.

I told people around 2003-2006 that I didn't like HDMI and in some systems, I wouldn't use it until they fixed the bugs or I had no choice. Here I am, 15 years later, with the same effing bugs and I have no choice.

 

[PENG]

I am not a defender of ARC, but I am not against it if it works as good as optical just for the convenience. I do believe that in the newer generations of TVs and AVRs, not only will the hit and miss issues be resolved, but by then the TVs will also have eARC (and working..). Until then, if it works, use it, otherwise default back to optical and call it a day.