My Take on US policies

Takeereasy

Takeereasy

Audioholic General
I started this thread after reading a thread that was supposed to be about a problem a member was having with Paradigm’s customer service. I was going to let it go until about the tenth page, and then I just snapped. Seriously, you guys like bragging so much about war, how did Vietnam go for you? How about your "peacekeeping" mission to Haiti? How's the current war going for you? You guys are not the world police. I let it slide when people were talking in posts about how the US has to step in because no one else can save the poor backwards countries from themselves. Most of those "poor countries" have at least a thousand years more experience than us in N.A. No they can't launch a tactical nuke with pinpoint precision, and heaven to Betsy they sometimes even live in straw huts! And they have cultural and spiritual beliefs that are, gasp, different than yours. Leave them the hell alone. You talk about how someone has to do it. It doesn't seem like you guys are willing to do a damn thing for countries that don't have oil or that don't meet a strategic goal for your country. Am I saying this is wrong? No, in fact it's a good idea, but it is so hypocritical when you won't help certain countries but claim a humanitarian purpose when invading others. Where were you in Rwanda? Where was that military aid when millions of Ethiopians were starving? How about you guys do a frontal assault on China, last time I checked they were the biggest human rights offender on the planet, and they are, shudder, commies. Oh wait, can't do that, then no more $20 DVD players or cheap efficient ice cream makers. Plus they have the manpower and resources to fight back and own over $525 billion dollars worth of US currency. Seriously get the hell down from the hypocritical high horse you guys are on. I think you've got the "Hoorah" blinders on. There is a reason many around the world have problems with the US, and it isn't because you guys look so darn good in a suit. You have isolationist leanings politically yet are the nosiest most intrusive country in existence it often seems.

Also please make note that while the US was indeed a big player in the campaign in Europe you were not there with any manpower till the end of the war when victory was a foregone conclusion that you merely sped up. Yes it was to a large degree, but Hitler was already pursuing peace when you walked in due to his fear of Stalin. Also your textbooks might talk about how you fearlessly aided the allies by supplying weapons and fuel while pretending to be neutral thus being a huge help even while not fighting directly. That really only adds up to profiteering and war mongering to me. The greatest contribution the US made in WWII was in the war with Japan, a war you arguably started with economic and trade sanctions and ended with the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents not once but twice. I've seen the same war movies you have, all those beaches stormed by Americans, and how if it wasn't for the US all would have been lost and we'd have German accents. Revisionist history is also one of the reasons the world isn't in your fan club by the way. Often times it's hard not to picture the authors of American history textbooks sitting around high-fiving each other and exclaiming, "We kick serious ***." Those 2 years Britain was "alone" Canada and others were there. Also Canada and Great Britain trained your special forces, and taught you how to run a spy agency. Yes the Canadian military has fallen into a shambles lately but we were among the most feared soldiers in WWII. We had the highest training standards for enlisted men, we were the highest paid, and we were the most successful army operationally speaking in the "Big One" per capita. Also while we’re at it our countries (Canada and the US) were so close that thousands of Canadians volunteered to fight in Korea alongside our ally (you guys) when our Govt. wouldn't recognize the war. That's how close our countries used to be. Also don't forget you lost a war to us in 1812, costing you the original Whitehouse but I remember being taught that America had only ever lost one war in elementary school in the US. By the way, number of wars Canada has lost is equal to 0, and we've been in our share.

Also our education system is not socialist at all. We get free education till high school just like you, and then we pay for any further degrees or diplomas. God you guys can be ignorant. I love the blanket statements and the smugness. Stating assumption like fact is so damn annoying. We share a border and you don't know anything about us. So what you don't know you infer from TV or just plain make up. Read a book, or better yet come up for a visit. We just got a new slogan "It's like America, but without the gun violence and rampant racism." What, you don't like that slogan? "Why it groups us all together and makes unfair generalizations about our populace,” you might say. Welcome to the way you are perceivedto look at other cultures. Someone disagrees with you; make a quick comment about their education. Someone doesn't like US foreign policy; they're a lefty or a Pinko. Someone doesn't support the president then they're a traitor.

I spent a lot of my recent vacation partying with Americans of all ages, professions and races and here were my findings: Guys from L.A.- stupid smug pricks. Guys from Houston Texas- most fun night I had was with these guys, big partiers and jokers that I got along with great. Guys from Las Vegas Nevada, somewhere in the middle- a little reserved and a little snooty, but once they let the hair down they were cool guys and gals. Now by that sampling would it be fair for me to make assumptions about the 47 states not represented? Or, for that matter, how about the millions of people living in each of the 3 states I mentioned that I haven't met? How about each of the respective cities? Of course not, but that seems to be the US mentality. “Oh I've met those guys or I read something in a book so I know the culture.” Give your xenophobic heads a shake. I love the US; I have Dual citizenship and was born in the US. At least half of my family is south of the border and I have attended school in 2 different states. Our cultures are invariably intertwined and are very similar to each other’s. This ignorant attitude espoused by maybe 10 % of the population is what gives so many outsiders a negative view of a fantastic country. I know that this is just my opinion, and I know I’m going to catch flack, but seriously, drop the stupid international politics in the speaker threads and save them for in here.
 
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sts9fan

sts9fan

Banned
Jeb Bush 08' !!!
'We will take down Canada!!!!!':mad:



Seiously dude you are trying to reason with people that have consistantly voted against their own good. Do you really expect much? they vote to ban gay marriage and all they get is more money for industry. They vote for no abortion do they get it? No they get W pushing to ruin social security for benefit of nobody but the investment firms. I would save your breath.:eek:
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
...drop the stupid international politics in the speaker threads and save them for in here.
Yeah, MacMan, drop the politics. Go visit Canada for once in your life. They've got some hot chix up there - remember the party at your house and an article of clothing on the ceiling fan? :D

If Takeereasy runs for US president (on the democratic ticket - of course), he's got my vote. ;)
 
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miklorsmith

Full Audioholic
Mine too. Great post. Without getting into US/International history - the current affairs are disgusting. In the Vietnam era, we protested in force and created change from the bottom-up. Now, we just complain in boards and allow it all to happen. No loud complaint equates to approval, right?

Our international image has taken a 20-year step backwards in the last 5. I think the international community gave us some latitude until we REelected our fearless/thoughtless leader.

I used to listen to NPR for an hour a day. I have given that up for sports radio. I can't control what the Seahawks or Mariners do any more than the government, but the disappointments are much less damaging to my psyche.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Holy Smokes. One Audioholics thread and a weekend in Tia Juana and your ready to start war with the U.S. Takeereasy, you're not living up to your handle this morning.

I agree, Canada has much less graft and greed in its government. (What?) Canada has been in many fewer wars than the U.S. (Eh?) Violence is not at all at the level it is in the U.S. (;))

I'm leaving this stupid country and headin' north. Do you know how I can get a job clubbing baby harp seals to death? I'll need to come down slowly from my cultural-blood-bath upbringing. :D
 
Takeereasy

Takeereasy

Audioholic General
Thanks guys.

STS, I like the Jeb in 08 comment, it could happen in a twilight zone like twist.

Buckeye, yeah we've got some super hot women up here but I do think California has the highest babe to Broom Hilda ratio I've ever seen. Literally you gotta keep you're head on a swivel or you've missed the opportunity to ogle something breathtaking. That might just be a west coast thing though, as it seems a disproportionate number of girls from B.C. are too damn hot as well.

Miklorsmith, I don't think you guys have taken 20 yrs worth of stepping back. I actually was a GHWB fan until he was proven a liar on international television and he admitted that there were no WOMD. I was behind him that long. I'd vote Republican if I were a registered voter in the US (well not last election).

Our federal government is in shambles. We are having an election early because of a bribery scandal. Get this, one of the guys who got caught taking kickbacks used the following line to explain himself, "I'm entitled to my entitlements". I would ring his neck like a damn chicken if I could get my hands on him. The worst part is that the offending party has like a fifty/fifty shot of winning because there is no competition.

RJ, I'm sorry but there are no job openings in the exciting and lucrative field of baby seal clubbing. That industry is way overstaffed and loaded with clinger-ons who just want some of the glory. You know, the glory of beating something cute with expressive eyes to death with a blunt instrument in order to harvest its skin. Ted Nugent can't even get a job doing it, and he's famous (and crazy).
 
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Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Great post takeer, I wish I had your balls, in a non Ghey sense.

SheepStar ( Against abortion, for killling babies :D )
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Sheep said:
Great post takeer, I wish I had your balls, in a non Ghey sense.

SheepStar ( Against abortion, for killling babies :D )
SheepStar,

Just go live in Ontario for awhile. That'll fix ya up. ;)
 
gellor

gellor

Full Audioholic
Takeereasy said:
Guys from Houston Texas- most fun night I had was with these guys, big partiers and jokers that I got along with great.
Don't worry...Houston has its own fair share. One of the roads near my (Canadian) wife's parents house had two billboards right by each other. The first:

"Stop killing the unborn!"

Next billboard:

"Support the Houston NRA!" (National Rifle Association)
 
Takeereasy

Takeereasy

Audioholic General
Well what's funny is I didn't like the guys from L.A., so by that assumption all guys from L.A. are jerks. In reality some of the nicest people we met were while we stayed in LA and most of my family in the states live less than 2 hrs. away from LAX. We had a lady drive out of her way to take us to a road we couldn't find, and everyone there was so darn helpful. That said they did tend to go out of their way more when they found out we were Canadian, and we (my room mate and I) go out of our way to be nice to the help wherever we are, and I don't think that they're used to that in big cities.

As for the Houston guys, they really were a hoot. All of em had on stetsons, all of em could drink enough beer to keep up with me while I was on vacation (a feat not many Americans can match unless we switch to liquor) and they had great sarcastic senses of humor. I have honestly liked everyone I've ever met from Texas, including my brother in law and all of his gun nut buddies. I know enough not to talk religion with them though.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Takeereasy said:
As for the Houston guys, they really were a hoot. All of em had on stetsons, all of em could drink enough beer to keep up with me while I was on vacation (a feat not many Americans can match unless we switch to liquor) and they had great sarcastic senses of humor. I have honestly liked everyone I've ever met from Texas, including my brother in law and all of his gun nut buddies. I know enough not to talk religion with them though.
Well, then. You'd probably enjoy George W. immensely! You just gotta get to know him. :)
 
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Mort Corey

Senior Audioholic
Takeereasy said:
All of em had on stetsons, all of em could drink enough beer to keep up with me while I was on vacation (a feat not many Americans can match unless we switch to liquor)
That's because (as I recall from a previous life) Candians actually brew and serve real beer vs most of the wattered down belly wash passed off as such here.

As to US policy, I'd prefer the country returned to a pre Roosevelt (Teddy) incarnation. You might consider it "isolationist", but we'd be much better off (IMO) not having troops stationed in 140+ countries and spending a half a trillion dollars per year to keep them there to maintain the empire.

Mort (what doesn't drink beer any longer but still appreciates some of the fine Canuck whiskey blends)
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
Hello to all,

I just wanted to post some information I found on another forum where we had some discussions:

Quote: "Some WMDs found in Iraq...

1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents

Chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)

Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas

This is only a PARTIAL LIST of the horrific weapons verified to have been recovered in Iraq to date. Yet, Americans overwhelmingly believe U.S. and coalition forces found NO weapons of mass destruction." End Quote

I am NOT trying to start an argument, I am just saying, do not believe everything you hear. I have a couple of good friends who were in Iraq an just came home recently. I will try to find out the source of that information.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
what's regretful is that, the americans (citizens) want peace and security for their country. but in attacking Iraq, they (US leaders) have created an entire generation of hateful islamic militants (so-called terrorists) who would like to be given a chance to blow themselves up just to do damage to americans.

i owe you a chicklet btw, takereasy
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
How many organizations do you think hate the US or it's foreign policies? Take a guess. (Takeereasy - you aren't the only one my man ;) )

Here's a partial list - many were formed because of our policies!
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/

One big problem with the US is the amount of cash we have (everyone wants a piece of it), the amount of cash we dole out as foreign aide (those who don't get it, want it), and the issues with the countries we attempt to control because of our wealth. Honestly, I'm tired of financing this mess. Take, what's a 2500 sq. ft. house going for in your area - and what percentage of taxes would I be paying assuming I'm making 100k a year?
 
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Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Buckeyefan 1 said:
How many organizations do you think hate the US or it's foreign policies? Take a guess. (Takeereasy - you aren't the only one my man ;) )

Here's a partial list - many were formed because of our policies!
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/

One big problem with the US is the amount of cash we have (everyone wants a piece of it), the amount of cash we dole out as foreign aide (those who don't get it, want it), and the issues with the countries we attempt to control because of our wealth. Honestly, I'm tired of financing this mess. Take, what's a 2500 sq. ft. house going for in your area - and what percentage of taxes would I be paying assuming I'm making 100k a year?
In my area its around 500 - 600 thousand. I live about 15 minutes away from vancouver though.

As for 100K a year, Ill have to get back to you on that one, in about 10 years ;)

SheepStar
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
Sheep said:
In my area its around 500 - 600 thousand. I live about 15 minutes away from vancouver though.

As for 100K a year, Ill have to get back to you on that one, in about 10 years ;)

SheepStar
:eek:
$550,000 will get me close to 5000 sq. ft. in Columbus. Forget that. There's something to be said for being "landlocked."
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Buckeyefan 1 said:
:eek:
$550,000 will get me close to 5000 sq. ft. in Columbus. Forget that. There's something to be said for being "landlocked."
In the british properties (fancy house area in north van) a 6200sq.ft. runs you around 1.7 mill. But, these are VERY nice houses. Went to a party hosted at one.

SheepStar
 
Rock&Roll Ninja

Rock&Roll Ninja

Audioholic Field Marshall
annunaki said:
Chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)
Every time I see this I must ask: How deadly is five times already fatal? Does it kill you, bring you back as a zombie and kill you again? :p

But y'all are missing one point: we have no say in what the government decides to do. Sure we "vote", but as anyone who can count will tell you: they just put whoever they want in power, regardless of election outcomes. Then they lie to us about what is actually happening. If they even tell us anything at all.

So hate America all you want. Just remember that most of us are not, and never were employed in the industrio-military corporations, and have no imperialist inklings beyond finding a better pizza-parlour.

PS: We also lost the 'Drug War' if you're keeping track. :)
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
Rock&Roll Ninja said:
Every time I see this I must ask: How deadly is five times already fatal? Does it kill you, bring you back as a zombie and kill you again? :p
frikkin hilarious :D
 
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