mobile audiophile media player

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LyriqJoe

Audiophyte
I'm looking for thoughts on a mobile iPhone app that plays WAV and DSD (various Hz). I bought "better" audio in my vehicle, and currently can only appreciate the sound quality through SXM channels. I would like to play selections from my music server (through the internet or downloaded onto my phone). I have tried Plex, but the fidelity is not there; I have yet to determine what codecs Plex supports. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joe
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
I'm looking for thoughts on a mobile iPhone app that plays WAV and DSD (various Hz). I bought "better" audio in my vehicle, and currently can only appreciate the sound quality through SXM channels. I would like to play selections from my music server (through the internet or downloaded onto my phone). I have tried Plex, but the fidelity is not there; I have yet to determine what codecs Plex supports. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joe
What do you mean by "bought better," since a great system should be able to still deliver hi-fi performance even via FM radio. The Alpine in my truck delivers a decent hi-fi experience via Bluetooth and Pandora, for example. CD is a step up from there but then we are still dependent on the quality of the actual recording, more often than not.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I'm looking for thoughts on a mobile iPhone app that plays WAV and DSD (various Hz). I bought "better" audio in my vehicle, and currently can only appreciate the sound quality through SXM channels. I would like to play selections from my music server (through the internet or downloaded onto my phone). I have tried Plex, but the fidelity is not there; I have yet to determine what codecs Plex supports. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joe
What exactly have you got. Is this a higher end factory system or some hack job from a shed installer?

There is a huge variation in sound quality from the offerings of the various car brands.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
I'm looking for thoughts on a mobile iPhone app that plays WAV and DSD (various Hz). I bought "better" audio in my vehicle, and currently can only appreciate the sound quality through SXM channels. I would like to play selections from my music server (through the internet or downloaded onto my phone). I have tried Plex, but the fidelity is not there; I have yet to determine what codecs Plex supports. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joe
From PLEX website:
Passthrough Codecs

Audio streams encoded with certain codecs can be passed through, untouched, to the selected audio device. Supported codecs vary based on the selected Audio Device Kind.


  • Enable passthrough codecs intentionally. Streams with codecs not selected for passthrough are provided to the output device as PCM audio.

How are you feeding your system from the phone?
 
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LyriqJoe

Audiophyte
From PLEX website:
Passthrough Codecs

Audio streams encoded with certain codecs can be passed through, untouched, to the selected audio device. Supported codecs vary based on the selected Audio Device Kind.


  • Enable passthrough codecs intentionally. Streams with codecs not selected for passthrough are provided to the output device as PCM audio.

How are you feeding your system from the phone?
Yes, I am currently using PLEX on my iPhone. I was (naively) expecting the PLEX player to have its own CODECs (as part of the app), which based on the quality of the audio to my vehicle's audio system (via BT) is not to my expectations. My goal is to find an iPhone app with its own CODECs to process hi-def WAV and DSD files, understanding that the BT connection will limit the fidelity.

thanks for the comment, Joe
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Regardless of the app, I believe the iPhone Bluetooth connection will result in the use of AAC to the connected system.
 
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LyriqJoe

Audiophyte
What exactly have you got. Is this a higher end factory system or some hack job from a shed installer?

There is a huge variation in sound quality from the offerings of the various car brands.
True, there is some variability in "high-end" vehicle audio brands, but as mentioned, the issue is with the PLEX app, given that SXM sounds pretty damn good. My goal is to play my existing home music server content through an iPhone app into my vehicle's audio system. The quality of PLEX listening is much less than either regular FM or SXM radio, so I'm looking for suggestions for other apps to provide (1) connectivity to my home music server, and (2) have their own s/w CODECs. One of my vehicles connect my iPhone via BT, and the other via USB; the USB connection has somewhat better fidelity. Both vehicles exhibit the same poor-quality sou

thanks for the comment, Joe
Regardless of the app, I believe the iPhone Bluetooth connection will result in the use of AAC to the connected system.
Interesting, if that's the case, then whatever encoding I have, it will be down-converted to a lossy format... thanks, I will research this more with my Apple "techy" buddies.. Assuming you are correct, then my "mission" is a lost cause, unless I buy a hi-def portable player, which were all-the-rage a few years ago. That still might not achieve my goal; I would need analog "in" connections to the car audio, after the portable player did the decoding to analog... starting to 'sound' like a lost cause... sorry, I could not resist the pun!

thanks for the thought!

Joe
 
Eppie

Eppie

Audioholic Ninja
True, there is some variability in "high-end" vehicle audio brands, but as mentioned, the issue is with the PLEX app, given that SXM sounds pretty damn good. My goal is to play my existing home music server content through an iPhone app into my vehicle's audio system. The quality of PLEX listening is much less than either regular FM or SXM radio, so I'm looking for suggestions for other apps to provide (1) connectivity to my home music server, and (2) have their own s/w CODECs. One of my vehicles connect my iPhone via BT, and the other via USB; the USB connection has somewhat better fidelity. Both vehicles exhibit the same poor-quality sou

thanks for the comment, Joe

Interesting, if that's the case, then whatever encoding I have, it will be down-converted to a lossy format... thanks, I will research this more with my Apple "techy" buddies.. Assuming you are correct, then my "mission" is a lost cause, unless I buy a hi-def portable player, which were all-the-rage a few years ago. That still might not achieve my goal; I would need analog "in" connections to the car audio, after the portable player did the decoding to analog... starting to 'sound' like a lost cause... sorry, I could not resist the pun!

thanks for the thought!

Joe
Roon has added the ARC phone app to allow streaming from your home Roon server to a mobile phone. Might yield better quality than Plex. It's an expensive solution but there is a 14-day trial period.
 
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carlosadar

Enthusiast
True, there is some variability in "high-end" vehicle audio brands, but as mentioned, the issue is with the PLEX app, given that SXM sounds pretty damn good. My goal is to play my existing home music server content through an iPhone app into my vehicle's audio system. The quality of PLEX listening is much less than either regular FM or SXM radio, so I'm looking for suggestions for other apps to provide (1) connectivity to my home music server, and (2) have their own s/w CODECs. One of my vehicles connect my iPhone via BT, and the other via USB; the USB connection has somewhat better fidelity. Both vehicles exhibit the same poor-quality sou

thanks for the comment, Joe

Interesting, if that's the case, then whatever encoding I have, it will be down converted to a lossy format. Thanks, I will research this more with my Apple "techy" buddies. I may also check the att phone number if I need help confirming a few connectivity settings before testing everything again. Assuming you are correct, then my "mission" is a lost cause, unless I buy a hi def portable player, which were all the rage a few years ago. That still might not achieve my goal; I would need analog "in" connections to the car audio, after the portable player did the decoding to analog... starting to 'sound' like a lost cause... sorry, I could not resist the pun!

thanks for the thought!

Joe
Neutron Music Player. It plays WAV and DSD, both native and DoP, and streams from your music server over UPnP/DLNA, and outputs to a USB DAC. That will fix the fidelity gap you're seeing with Plex.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Neutron Music Player. It plays WAV and DSD, both native and DoP, and streams from your music server over UPnP/DLNA, and outputs to a USB DAC. That will fix the fidelity gap you're seeing with Plex.
Only problem I had with Plex was varying bit rates depending where in the food chain you were. More an internet than wifi issue.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Yes, I am currently using PLEX on my iPhone. I was (naively) expecting the PLEX player to have its own CODECs (as part of the app), which based on the quality of the audio to my vehicle's audio system (via BT) is not to my expectations. My goal is to find an iPhone app with its own CODECs to process hi-def WAV and DSD files, understanding that the BT connection will limit the fidelity.

thanks for the comment, Joe
Well, there is your problem, lady. iPhones don't support FLAC, DSD, or WAV formats. If you convert your lossless files to ALAC, you might be able to play them losslessly from Plex to iPhone.
Make sure your ALAC audio files are in m4a or caf formats.

Also, BT doesn't support Lossless Audio AT ALL(*). It will nearly always be compressed.

* - specific very niche implementations like aptX Lossless or Denon PerL Pro technologies don't really count, and you'd struggle to find any car supporting it.

Q:
"Are there any cars with implemented "aptX lossless" in their entertainment systems?"


Here's Claude (AI) answer:
The short answer is: no mainstream OEM car brand has publicly shipped factory infotainment with aptX Lossless as of mid-2026. Here's the full picture:

What Qualcomm Says vs. Reality

Qualcomm's aptX Lossless page broadly states the codec works across "headphones, speakers, smartphones, laptops, and automotive systems," and mentions that aptX brings high-quality, low-latency wireless sound to vehicles, enhancing music, calls, and in-car entertainment experiences. However, that's marketing language for the aptX family broadly — there are no specific OEM car brands listed as shipping aptX Lossless specifically in their factory infotainment.

Where It Does Exist in the Car Space

Aftermarket head units — most notably from ATOTO (their Android-based Snapdragon-powered units are listed on aptX.com as certified products). These are bolt-in replacements, not factory systems.


The Helix BT-HD Streamer is another aftermarket device — a standalone Bluetooth receiver for DSP amplifiers that supports aptX Lossless, allowing you to add it to almost any car system.

Why Factory Cars Haven't Adopted It Yet

A few structural reasons:


  1. iPhone problem: aptX Lossless requires Snapdragon Sound on both ends. iPhones don't support any aptX variant — only AAC and SBC. Since iPhones are ~55% of the US smartphone market, a car OEM can't advertise meaningful lossless BT audio when half their buyers can't use it.
  2. Long automotive development cycles: Qualcomm only launched aptX Lossless in late 2021/early 2022. Cars take 3–5 years from design to production, so any OEM that started designing it in then would be arriving ~2025–2026 at the earliest.
  3. Automotive Snapdragon platforms: Qualcomm does make automotive-grade SoCs (Snapdragon Ride), but aptX Lossless support specifically in those platforms hasn't been publicly confirmed or announced by any major OEM yet.
Bottom Line

CategoryaptX Lossless support
Factory OEM infotainment (BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc.)❌ Not confirmed
ATOTO aftermarket Android head units✅ Yes
Helix BT-HD Streamer (add-on)✅ Yes
Your iPhone as the source❌ Never (Apple blocks aptX)
Android phone as source✅ Many recent Snapdragon phones

If you're trying to get lossless Bluetooth audio into a car today, the practical path is an aftermarket Snapdragon-based head unit paired with an Android phone — not a factory system. And if you're on iPhone, aptX Lossless simply isn't an option regardless of the car.
 
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