MIT Speaker Cable - Resistance Question

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Tone

Enthusiast
Okay, I have a 2 pairs of MIT Terminator 5 speaker cables and when measured they all show 2 ohms resistance. So if I use these cables will my amplifier actually see to more Ohms of resistance?

Since my speakers have 6 ohms resistance, does this mean if I use the MIT cables the amplifier will see a total of 8 Ohms resistance?

I ask all this because my amplifier specifications call for a minimum of 8 Ohm speakers when using 2 pairs. Well, my speakers are all 6 Ohm - but if the MIT cables give me 2 more Ohms resistance then I should be fine to hook all 4 speakers up becasue the amplifier will think they are actually 8 Ohm speakers. Right? :xeye:

Thanks for any help on this.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Okay, I have a 2 pairs of MIT Terminator 5 speaker cables and when measured they all show 2 ohms resistance. So if I use these cables will my amplifier actually see to more Ohms of resistance?

Since my speakers have 6 ohms resistance, does this mean if I use the MIT cables the amplifier will see a total of 8 Ohms resistance?

I ask all this because my amplifier specifications call for a minimum of 8 Ohm speakers when using 2 pairs. Well, my speakers are all 6 Ohm - but if the MIT cables give me 2 more Ohms resistance then I should be fine to hook all 4 speakers up becasue the amplifier will think they are actually 8 Ohm speakers. Right? :xeye:
How did you measure their resistance? You need a high percision ohm meter or impedance analyzer. Speaker cables should only be a few milliohms per ft so if you're MITs are really that high (not surprising since they are esoteric cables) you need to dump them.

As for speaker resistance question, no you cannot simply add resistance #s like that. Your speakers nominal impedance (function of frequecy) is 6 ohms and will likely be a good match with your receiver. You never want to add a high resistance cable to increase speaker impedance.
 
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Nick250

Audioholic Samurai
Tone said:
Okay, I have a 2 pairs of MIT Terminator 5 speaker cables and when measured they all show 2 ohms resistance. So if I use these cables will my amplifier actually see to more Ohms of resistance?

Since my speakers have 6 ohms resistance, does this mean if I use the MIT cables the amplifier will see a total of 8 Ohms resistance?

I ask all this because my amplifier specifications call for a minimum of 8 Ohm speakers when using 2 pairs. Well, my speakers are all 6 Ohm - but if the MIT cables give me 2 more Ohms resistance then I should be fine to hook all 4 speakers up becasue the amplifier will think they are actually 8 Ohm speakers. Right? :xeye:

Thanks for any help on this.
The two ohm resistence with the MITs issue seems odd to me. I can not answer the question about MITs, but if you head over to your local Radio Shack you can get 100' of 14 gauge for less than $50. Non of the high end speaker cables improve on the results you get from the Radio Shack. If you want nicer looking custom terminated cables, a lot of folks have liked Bluejean cables.

Nick
 
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GreenJelly

Banned
The way you tested the cable is incorrect. I would check how your doing things.

Anyways, next time go to radio shack, buy some nice gold connectors that work with your speakers (they have almost every type available), then go to your local hardware store, and buy some nice lamp cord. Attach connectors to lamp cord, and you will have your own home made cable that will sound as good as the most expensive MIT speaker cable available.

When a salesman or audio installer asks/tells you about their speaker cable, simply tell him your not interested. If he talks about "HighEnd" RCA, Coaxil or component cable, ask him the price; If its above $20, tell him your not interested. If he talks about "HighEnd" HDMI, DVI, SPDIF (optical or coaxil sound cable), tell him to shut the... well you get the idea.

Ok, fine... People can state that their MIT speaker cable and their high end co-axil speaker cable is better. The companies might have scientific proof, or have people tested with extreme hearing ability tell you that its better. Some people have told me that its the "Feel" rather then a direct ability to tell the difference. This may be true for Analog signals, however for digital signals any claim of beign "High End" is simply a load of steaming.... well again you get the idea.

Ever open up your speakers? Take out a driver... look at the speaker wire inside the system. Is it gold plated, with high amounts of silver and other materials in them, or is it simple electrical wire... DING DING DING you are correct, it is simple electrical wire!

Sorry, but on Audioholics, their is very little support for these cable manufacturers. For me personally, I take what these companies are doing as major minipulation of the general uneducated public. I feel these companies are selling snake oil to people, and it really hurts people. I feel that these companies are unethical, and I would be ashamed to sell someone any of this stuff. In addition I would not work or associate myself with these companies. I feel that strongly about this that I feel a hole in my chest that humans can be so manipulating.

This is my opinion... I happen to like my burgers from Wendy, and would never go to McDonalds for anything. My coffee is always black, and I dont need sugar for "Im sweet enough"... I also love Oreo cookies, and can eat a whole bag in about 30 minutes. These Oreo cookies are like crack, I just cant get near them... Im going to go to Oreo cookie rehab. I hear that many people love thoose chips ahoy with some milk, and though I agree they are good, I must say that Oreo's are better. Sometimes I need a change and I go to the Chips Ahoy's. I love to dunk these in milk. I dont like Ice Cream, though my father loves it more then anything else.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Don't those cables have those funky black boxes on 'em? If so, you could well be measuring the DC resistance* of whatever is in there.

*Note I didn't say impedance. That varies with frequency and is a totally different measurement..
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Impedance shouldn't really be a factor with wire, only capacitance. I've used MIT before and wasn't impressed. I wasn't all that impressed with AQ's high dollar wire either.
 
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tubesaregood

Audioholic
Amen, greenjelly. I used to work at Guitar Center where they sell Monster Cable as well as Livewire (cheap, lifetime warranty, and metal conductors. What's not to love?). Anyway, I would routinely give customers the straight up truth when they asked if Monsters were really $30 better than the Livewires. I told them basically, that "Hell no they aren't!"

Unfortunately, not many people listened.

Epsecially one guy who was looking for a Monster Acoustic cable specifically (to explain for those who need it, Monster actually believes they can optimize cables for jazz, bass, acoustics, and electrics). We didn't have any. I tried to tell him that a cable is a cable is a cable and so on, but he wouldn't buy. I told him IF Monster's claims about frequency response and all that shirt are true, he should go with a Bass cable for extended frequency range blah blah blah. Stupid as he was, he went against my recommendation and bought a Monster Rock cable. Two days later he returned it to me, stating that it made his steelstring "sound just like a Les Paul! I'm not kidding!" :eek: :eek: :eek:

Some people can't be helped.

By the way, if dude who I mentioned here happens to come across this post sometime in the future: Seriously, man. Get real. You are dumb.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Speaker cable resistance

Touch the leads of your Ohm meter together. It will probably read 1 or 2 ohms when shorted.
For 12 AWG wire 1000 feet is about 1.7 Ohms resistance.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
jcPanny said:
Touch the leads of your Ohm meter together. It will probably read 1 or 2 ohms when shorted.
Shouldn't there be an adjustment so it reads zero? My ancient analog FET meter has that so I would expect these new fangled ones do too..
 
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GreenJelly

Banned
markw said:
Shouldn't there be an adjustment so it reads zero? My ancient analog FET meter has that so I would expect these new fangled ones do too..
Good point... yeah, it may be 1 or less. (less beign worst...)

But I am no engineer... my father is...

Mike
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
tubesaregood said:
Some people can't be helped.
.

As the saying goes:
You can lead a horse to water but...

You tried. :D
 
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