Midrange receiver + satellite system 5.1

[Gamblet]

Hey Bob i'm glad the new prescription working fine you are as good *** new. Hackkk you even better then new!!! lol

Again thanks for your quick reply gonna order the stuff now. So i probarly have it when i gonna get mine speakers. Getting pretty late here so i have to respond quick. You are talking about bananaplugs never heard of it before untill a few weeks ago somewere in this forum. I though i red something in the Onkyo manual that bananaplugs arent allowed here.. Not sure if i red it right gonna look it up later. The cable for mine sub will be 5 meter. The cables for the speakers are on reel so i can cut it myself. I red something about to cut the cable for the rearspeakers at the same distance for better performance. I wonder if you can tell the diffrence but its sounds logical so why not

 

[Lordoftherings]

Yo. I feel pretty high.

Oh ya, that new prescription is doing wonder for my system.

If you remove the small caps covering the center holes of the binding posts, by using a very small screw and gently turn a couple turns at most by piercing the center of the small plastic plug, as to not damage your binding posts, and then by pulling out hard enough, so as to remove that small cap.
Quite easy actually.

To find out more about banana plugs, just Google "Speaker Banana Plugs".

Wow! 5 meters for your sub cable! Where do you put it? Outside in the balcony? I bet you like to take care of your neighbours.

And as for the length of your speaker cables, just cut it to each their respective distance with an extra couple of feet just to be on the safe side.
Anyway, your two front speakers should have the same length. Your center speaker, probably shorter. And your two, or four surround speaker cables would be quite longer than the three front ones, duh.
(My two front mains are 12 feet long, my center is 6 feet long, and my two side surrounds are 25 feet long, and my two rear surrounds are 40 feet long).
Pretty much, more or less. Actually my left side surround is 40 feet long and my left rear surround is 45 feet long.
I also have another six speakers installed in that room, in addition of all the ones I just mentioned, so there are much more feet of speaker cables running around. The grand total of speaker cable feet woul be about close to 400 feet. Just in that system alone. I got 4 more systems in my home.
So, I know that I'm way over 1,000 feet of speaker cables. Add all the interconnects, and I got enough copper to start a small copper factory.

And the two interconnects for my two subs are 10 feet (right sub) and 15 feet (left sub) long, in my main system.

So, just use what you need, no more (or just a couple more feet) no less.

Bob

 

[lsiberian]

Oh ya, that new prescription is doing wonder for my system.

If you remove the small caps covering the center holes of the binding posts, by using a very small screw and gently turn a couple turns at most by piercing the center of the small plastic plug, as to not damage your binding posts, and then by pulling out hard enough, so as to remove that small cap.
Quite easy actually.

To find out more about banana plugs, just Google "Speaker Banana Plugs".

Wow! 5 meters for your sub cable! Where do you put it? Outside in the balcony? I bet you like to take care of your neighbours.

And as for the length of your speaker cables, just cut it to each their respective distance with an extra couple of feet just to be on the safe side.
Anyway, your two front speakers should have the same length. Your center speaker, probably shorter. And your two, or four surround speaker cables would be quite longer than the three front ones, duh.
(My two front mains are 12 feet long, my center is 6 feet long, and my two side surrounds are 25 feet long, and my two rear surrounds are 40 feet long).
Pretty much, more or less. Actually my left side surround is 40 feet long and my left rear surround is 45 feet long.
I also have another six speakers installed in that room, in addition of all the ones I just mentioned, so there are much more feet of speaker cables running around. The grand total of speaker cable feet woul be about close to 400 feet. Just in that system alone. I got 4 more systems in my home.
So, I know that I'm way over 1,000 feet of speaker cables. Add all the interconnects, and I got enough copper to start a small copper factory.

And the two interconnects for my two subs are 10 feet (right sub) and 15 feet (left sub) long, in my main system.

So, just use what you need, no more (or just a couple more feet) no less.

Bob

wire lengths don't matter as long as it get's there and you aren't being insane about it.

FYI Bob my longest runs are my fronts. My surrounds are the short runs.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Closer/farther. Farther/closer.

In the summer time, I put my fronts on the roof, so I need about 200 feet length for them. Then my surrounds are much closer.

 

[Fenix]

Gamblet,

FYI for your connections. Your AVR HDMI out will go into your TV HDMI in. You will then connect either a fiber optic cable or a coaxial out from your TV to one of the inputs on your receiver. The HDMI will not pass sound from the TV back to the AVR so you have to have another audio cable for that if you want to listen to your TV through your Speakers. All other components (DVD, Blu-ray, VHS, DVR, Game systems, etc) will plug into your AVR.

Now, one assumption that I am making is that your AVR converts your analog signals into digital signals and passes them through to the HDMI. Let me check.........Ok I'm back and it does look like it supports it. Read your manual to make sure that it is turned on.

That should be all.

Enjoy the new system!!

 

[Lordoftherings]

Almost at the end of the rope. A new beginning...

Hey Gamblet, I was just looking at this fairly sized thread, and seeing that you already have your receiver and already choosen your speakers, plus speaker cables, interconnects, (banana plugs), reading your receiver manual, learning more and more about connections, speaker placement, length of cables, etc., etc., etc.; you are becoming quite an expert and you'll be soon able to help other people just like you.
And all of this, within only one month (May 15).

So, how that feels to have learn so much from us here in America, when you are at the other end of the Atlantic ocean, on the other continent?
People in your country and surrounding areas would be able to benefit from your experience and knowledge for sure.

This all sounds very good indeed.

Bob

 

[Gamblet]

Well i'm enjoying reading about it, LOTR. A month ago i even didnt knew what a receiver could do But got lots to learn cant wait till i got mine system together so i can play with it

Fenix thank you for answering mine question about the connection from tv to the receiver. So if i read it right the HDMI will not pass sound from mine tv to mine receiver. If thas true then i need to buy a optical cable.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Simple connections.

Well i'm enjoying reading about it, LOTR. A month ago i even didnt knew what a receiver could do But got lots to learn cant wait till i got mine system together so i can play with it

Fenix thank you for answering mine question about the connection from tv to the receiver. So if i read it right the HDMI will not pass sound from mine tv to mine receiver. If thas true then i need to buy a optical cable.

I do spend time on occasion to reread some threads and their direction.
And looking at this one in particular, I saw your fast progression on learning quite a bit. And it's been exactly one month. So, I lift my hat to you.

And YES, if your TV has a digital Optical output jack (only for 2-channel PCM and Dolby Digital up to 5.1-channel, by the way), you can use a digital Optical cable from your TV Opt. out to your TX-SR705 Receiver Optical input.
Furthermore, you can use the 2-channel analog output RCA jacks from your Cable Box or Satellite Box, and direct them directly to your TV analog input RCA jacks. So that you have the sound from your Cable Box (or Digital Satellite Box) to your TV set without turning your receiver ON.

Bob

 

[Gamblet]

Ooh dear ooh dear still not really clear for me how to set it up. Was planning to read about it with the arrival of the speakers. Right now i'm at work so gonna read the replies this evening again.

There is a optical out on mine TV (Sony 3W5500) but also 4 hdmi 1.3. So i though i could use the hdmi cable for the sound and vid for TV --to-> Receiver.

But will get back to this forum after work.

Cheers Gamblet

 

[Gamblet]

Thanks for the compliments LOTR but i'm still a audio noob hehehe. I have been a lil creative and made a picture what i though the setup could be.

From what i have understand cable 1 is not possible and i have to use a optical cable instead right?

These are the specifications of mine TV -->
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t32-w-series/kdl-37w5500#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

Is it possible when i watching tv that i can simple choice between listening to tv speakers and surroundspeakers?

 

[Lordoftherings]

There is no HDMI out coming out from your TV. And everything else is OK.
So, out of your receiver, the only HDMI output goes to one of your HDMI input of your TV, that's all. So simple.

And if you want to listen to your TV only, just connect the analog stereo out from your Satellite Box and the component out (or S-Video if not avail), to your TV directly.
Again, so simple.

Hallelujah, praise the Lord!

 

[Fenix]

If your cable box transmits audio through the HDMI, then you don't have to worry about the optical cable from your TV. The only reason that I have it is because I am using an antenna to get my TV (don't really watch enough TV to really want/need cable) signals.

Since you're using a cable box you just need to connect it's audio to your receiver and you'll be good.

 

[Gamblet]

Good that parts is clear thanks !

A hour ago i have picked up mine Energy Speakers for the same price we agreed earlier this week (€499). They sure look great !! If thing goes as planned they will deliver tommorow the cables quess i know what i gonna do this weekend hehehehe

Next thing on mine list are finding some stands for the speakers.

 

[Lordoftherings]

^ Or if you're a bit handy, build your own stands. And it's fun too.

 

[Gamblet]

Today i have started setting up the systeem. I managed to get sound of mine speakers hehehe but i'm not yet satisfied about the sound. Gonna need some fine tuning i think. Right now the sound is to clear it need some more lower bass or something.

But i got a question about the cable for mine subwoofer. Right now i have boughed a male to male coax cable <---->. But i'm wondering why mine subwoofer have a left and right input (cause only got 1 cable). I have put the cable now in the left input and the sub works but i have a idee thats it not working on full capacity.

Here a picture of the back of mine subwoofer.

Was thinking the left and right input is for the position you place the speaker. Or mayby i need a other cable.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Hi Gamblet, hehehe.

Hi buddy,

* You need to get an Y adaptor (short interconnect with two RCA male jacks at one end and a female RCA jack at the other end).
Plug the two male jacks of the Y connector into the Left and Right RCA inputs of your subwoofer.
And your single long subwoofer interconnect into the female RCA jack of your Y connector.

* Set the "Volume Level" control (Gain) of your sub to 1/3 of it's rotary knob position.

* Set the "Low-Pass Filter" knob of your sub to it's Maximum position

* Set the "Phase" switch of your sub to 0 degree position.

* Set the "Power Mode" to ON.

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Now on your TX-SR705, set the LFE (Low Pass Filter only) to 120hz.
* This is NOT the x-over, it is completely different, it's only for the LFE only. Check in your manual.

Read your manual, and read this Post from this link, to properly perform the Audyssey MultEQ XT Automatic Room EQ Calibration, with the included microphone. And do perform the maximum recommended eight (8) microphone positions.

* Link for Audyssey Setup Guide:
-> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895

* Audyssey FAQ link: http://www.audyssey.com/faq/index.html

Read, and if you have more questions, I'm always here for you, you already know that and you also know that you can always count on me.
You're getting closer and closer to Audio Nirvana.

One more thing, take your time, to get things right.

Regards,

Bob

 

[Gamblet]

Lo Bob,

Thanks for the links and information. Gonna fine tune the systeem a lil later when i also have the stand for the speakers.

Today i went to a local store for the Y adapter you were talking about. But the man said that i didnt needed. The coax male <--> was good i needed to put it in the left input of the woofer. I allready did that and it sounds good.

Will get later back to the forum to read about other small problems like the output signal is 1080I instead of 1080p but right know i gonna watch a movie with mine new system.

Cheers Gam

 

[Lordoftherings]

Get a "Y" adaptor & don't worry about 1080i or 1080p.

Hi Gam,

A Y adaptor would give you a bigger gain from your subwoofer, which is always better. Don't listen to the man, listen to the Lord.
Trust me, I know. So, get a Y adaptor, it's cheap anyway ($10 or less).

As for 1080i and 1080p, your Onkyo TX-SR705 upscale any video signal from any type of video connection, up to 720p, from it's HDMI output.

*** BUT, it will pass 1080p in it's native video resolution through it's HDMI inputs and output.
And it will also pass 1080i from it's Components inputs and output.

What this means, is that if you use any blu-ray player, it will pass the 1080p full video high resolution through the HDMI video connections of your Onkyo TX-SR705 A/V receiver, untouched (Pass-Through).
So, don't fret it.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[Gamblet]

Oke will get myself a Y adapter then.

Yeh the receiver have to pass-trough the signal but i got 1080I instead of 1080P out of mine satelitebox. When i connect the satelitebox with mine tv then i receive 1080P. Dont understand why mayby it has something to do with mine HDMI cable that i bouged extra. Not a biggy yet first i wanna setup the speakers with stands will look later what it can be.

 

[Lordoftherings]

You're getting there, do some more reading, trying to understand.

Oke will get myself a Y adapter then.

Yeh the receiver have to pass-trough the signal but i got 1080I instead of 1080P out of mine satelitebox. When i connect the satelitebox with mine tv then i receive 1080P. Dont understand why mayby it has something to do with mine HDMI cable that i bouged extra. Not a biggy yet first i wanna setup the speakers with stands will look later what it can be.

1. Yeah, get that Y adaptor, good.
* And just connect it the way I told you on one of my prior post.

2. It's the "HDMI OUT" button on the front panel of your receiver that you have to push to select "YES" (HDMI Monitor).
* You can also access that setup from your remote control, in the menu called "HDMI Monitor Setup.

<< Important >>
* You have to select the "HDMI Audio" at OFF. Check in your TX-SR705 Audio menu setup.

** And you already have the link from the "Official Onkyo TX-SR705 Owner's Thread" at AVS. Use it as a great source of reference for various adjustments and audio & video proper setups.
As well, the Audyssey Setup Guide link.
Everything that you need is already in this own very thread that you started, just over a month ago. You got all the important links already, right here at your disposition to help you obtain the perfect setup for the greatest surround system.

Now, I'm just your fine tuning knob (Bob).

Take care,

Bob (knob)